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Jalen Smith slightly edges out Leandro Bolmaro by 1 vote for the 26th spot.
Adding Xavier Tillman Sr. to the poll.
current consensus big board:
Who is going to be #26?
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azcatz11 wrote:Man...Nico Mannion really fell hard. Does anyone think he can be a starter or is the consensus now good backup?
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azcatz11 wrote:Man...Nico Mannion really fell hard. Does anyone think he can be a starter or is the consensus now good backup?
getrichordie wrote:Cool. Mannion has vision. When has 6'3 vision ever been enough to be a starter?
If his shooting skill set improves a good bit, he could be a fine backup.
But what else does he bring to the table?
Stillwater wrote:getrichordie wrote:Cool. Mannion has vision. When has 6'3 vision ever been enough to be a starter?
If his shooting skill set improves a good bit, he could be a fine backup.
But what else does he bring to the table?
lol if you have to ask...
not sure if you were watching reruns of scooby when Zona played or what but it's clear he is one of the highest iq true point guard prospects in the entire class top to bottom. Only knocks I see are he needs to get stronger like most one and done guards to handle bigger NBA defenders and to be able to defend on switches. I think he is probably an offensive guard at best for a couple of seasons so for that reason it's fair to lower his stock to the late lottery to early 20 range because he is not starter material at any one thing yet besides his first step and reading defenses but those 2 things alone are enough to start on a lottery team while he gets stronger.
I would not think most orgs have him ranked that much behind the lottery projected points in this class tbh.
getrichordie wrote:Stillwater wrote:getrichordie wrote:Cool. Mannion has vision. When has 6'3 vision ever been enough to be a starter?
If his shooting skill set improves a good bit, he could be a fine backup.
But what else does he bring to the table?
lol if you have to ask...
not sure if you were watching reruns of scooby when Zona played or what but it's clear he is one of the highest iq true point guard prospects in the entire class top to bottom. Only knocks I see are he needs to get stronger like most one and done guards to handle bigger NBA defenders and to be able to defend on switches. I think he is probably an offensive guard at best for a couple of seasons so for that reason it's fair to lower his stock to the late lottery to early 20 range because he is not starter material at any one thing yet besides his first step and reading defenses but those 2 things alone are enough to start on a lottery team while he gets stronger.
I would not think most orgs have him ranked that much behind the lottery projected points in this class tbh.
So, he's got a good first step and good vision/IQ. So-so shooter and so-so defensively? Do I have that right?
getrichordie wrote:So, he's got a good first step and good vision/IQ. So-so shooter and so-so defensively? Do I have that right?Stillwater wrote:getrichordie wrote:Cool. Mannion has vision. When has 6'3 vision ever been enough to be a starter? If his shooting skill set improves a good bit, he could be a fine backup. But what else does he bring to the table?
lol if you have to ask... not sure if you were watching reruns of scooby when Zona played or what but it's clear he is one of the highest iq true point guard prospects in the entire class top to bottom. Only knocks I see are he needs to get stronger like most one and done guards to handle bigger NBA defenders and to be able to defend on switches. I think he is probably an offensive guard at best for a couple of seasons so for that reason it's fair to lower his stock to the late lottery to early 20 range because he is not starter material at any one thing yet besides his first step and reading defenses but those 2 things alone are enough to start on a lottery team while he gets stronger. I would not think most orgs have him ranked that much behind the lottery projected points in this class tbh.
getrichordie wrote:Cool. Mannion has vision. When has 6'3 vision ever been enough to be a starter?
clyde21 wrote:getrichordie wrote:Cool. Mannion has vision. When has 6'3 vision ever been enough to be a starter?
dude...when are u gonna stop making this stupid ass argument? the majority of good PGs in the league are 6-3 or under
getrichordie wrote:clyde21 wrote:getrichordie wrote:Cool. Mannion has vision. When has 6'3 vision ever been enough to be a starter?
dude...when are u gonna stop making this stupid ass argument? the majority of good PGs in the league are 6-3 or under
And I understand that, but I'm asking what else he brings to the table at the next level? Vision/IQ alone isn't enough to be a starter. Give me an example of that being the case.
clyde21 wrote:getrichordie wrote:clyde21 wrote:
dude...when are u gonna stop making this stupid ass argument? the majority of good PGs in the league are 6-3 or under
And I understand that, but I'm asking what else he brings to the table at the next level? Vision/IQ alone isn't enough to be a starter. Give me an example of that being the case.
i think he has a clear path as a back PG but eventually turning into a starter is not out of question, having good vision and bbiq is the most important aspect for a PG, he's also got + handles, is quick enough, hits his FTs at a high clip and isn't a total negative defensively...he's got a strong baseline to eventually develop into a starter.
and sure, I just did a bunch...Mike Conley started for a decade for example. what does/did Conley have that Nico doesn't?