2020 Pre-Draft Discussion

AdonalFoyle4Prez · Post #501 » by **AdonalFoyle4Prez** » Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:21 pm

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:
AdonalFoyle4Prez wrote:Wiggins + Paschal + Top 3 2020 1st Round Pick for Nicolas Batum + 2020 8th Pick + 2021 Future 1st Round Pick (Protected)?
if that pick is protected such that it will never convey as a lottery pick then count me in

Nah, we're hopeful that you guys don't make the playoffs so it turns into a 1st round lottery pick, LOL jk. I put "Protected" as it's the same as "Conditional." Otherwise, I'd say this one would be an ideal trade.

LofJ · Post #502 » by **LofJ** » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:00 am

I've seen Vernon Carey slipping on the mock sites. What do you guys think about taking him at 32?

I think I'd be happy with it. Carey isn't just a back to the basket guy. He can handle the ball well for a guy his size. He also has decent vision and good range on his jumper. While he won't ever be a game changer defensively he's good under the basket and he's a really good defensive rebounder. I'd also bet on him getting better. I like him at 32.

UNCNYC · Post #503 » by **UNCNYC** » Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:06 am

LofJ wrote:I've seen Vernon Carey slipping on the mock sites. What do you guys think about taking him at 32?

I think I'd be happy with it. Carey isn't just a back to the basket guy. He can handle the ball well for a guy his size. He also has decent vision and good range on his jumper. While he won't ever be a game changer defensively he's good under the basket and he's a really good defensive rebounder. I'd also bet on him getting better. I like him at 32.

I like him a 32 and never thought to add him cuz I thought he'd go much higher but will do so soon

UNCNYC · Post #504 » by **UNCNYC** » Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:06 am

Hey guys, I haven't done many DEPTH CHARTS this year. This one doesn't contain every pick but many of them.
I have listed in ORDER of who I think is the best available at their position.

POINT GUARDS -

PG - RATED A+
RJ Hampton
Theo Maledon
Tyrell Terry
Devon Dotson
Tre Mann
Cole Anthony
Malaki Flynn
Yam Mador
Ashton Hagans
Tyrese Maxey

PG - RATED A
Nick Witherspoon
Marcus Carr
Nico Mannion
Mason Faulkner
Kira Lewis Jr.
Javon Freeman Liberty
Tre Jones
Jared Butler
Dejean Jarreua
Kameron Langley
Rocket Watts

PG - RATED A-
McKinley Wright
Remy Martin
Xavier Pinson
Darius Quisenberry
Steph Smith
CJ Walker

PG - RATED B+
Arturs Zagars
Antoine Davis
Andrew Nembhard
Fatts Russell

PG - RATED B

PG - RATED B-

PG - RATED C

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SHOOTING GUARDS -

SG - RATED A+
Killian Hayes
Isaiah Joe
Ayo Dosunmu
LaMelo Ball

SG - RATED A
Ty-Shon Alexander
Tyrese Haliburton
Anthony Edwards
Immanuel Quickley
Aaron Nesmith
Ochai Agbaji
Tom Digbeu

SG - RATED A-
A.J. Lawson
Nate Hinton
Devin Vassell
John Petty

SG - RATED B+
Devon Daniels
Justin Turner

SG - RATED B
Jarron Cumberland
Scottie Lewis
David Collins

SG - RATED B-
Quentin Grimes
Sam Cunliffe
Bryan Antoine
Gabe Kalscheur

SG - RATED C
Chris Ledlum
Jahmi’us Ramsey
Joe Wieskamp
Kellan Grady
Samuell Williamson

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SMALL FORWARDS -

SF - RATED A+
Leandro Bolmaro
Josh Green
Elijah Hughes
Saddiq Bey
Deni Avdija
Isaac Okoro
Tyler Bey
Malcolm Cazalon
Jordan Nwora

SF - RATED A
Lamar Stevens
C.J. Elleby
Robert Woodard
Isaiah Mike

SF - RATED A-

SF - RATED B+
Jordan Tucker
Feron Hunt
Alpha Diallo
Precious Achiuwa
Georgios Kalaitzakis
Trevelin Queen

SF - RATED B

SF - RATED B-

SF - RATED C

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POWER FORWARDS -

PF - RATED A+
JaDen McDaniels
Trendon Wadford

PF - RATED A
Obi Toppin
Aleksej Pokusevski
Patrick Williams

PF - RATED A-
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
Paul Reed

PF - RATED B+
Trayce Jackson-Davis
Filip Petrusev
Killian Tillie
Jeremiah Tilmon
EJ Montgomery
Sandro Mamukelashvili

PF - RATED B

PF - RATED B-

PF - RATED C

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CENTERS -

C - RATED A+
Jalen Smith
Onyeka Okongwu
James Wiseman
Vernon Cary Jr

C - RATED A
Zeke Nnaji
Kaleb Wesson
Charles Bassey

C - RATED A-
Daniel Oturu
Neemias Queta
D.J. Funderburk
Udoka Azubukie
Isaiah Stewart
Derek Culver

C - RATED B+

C - RATED B
Kerry Blackshear Jr.
Luka Garza
Luka Brajkovic
Cameron Krutwig
Chase Jeter

C - RATED B-

C - RATED C

Liver_Pooty · Post #505 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:57 pm

LofJ wrote:I've seen Vernon Carey slipping on the mock sites. What do you guys think about taking him at 32?

I think I'd be happy with it. Carey isn't just a back to the basket guy. He can handle the ball well for a guy his size. He also has decent vision and good range on his jumper. While he won't ever be a game changer defensively he's good under the basket and he's a really good defensive rebounder. I'd also bet on him getting better. I like him at 32.

Carey would be incredible value at 32 and would contribute immediately off the bench.

UNCNYC · Post #506 » by **UNCNYC** » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:21 pm

I am considering adding Tyrell Terry and Tyrese Halliburton back in the consideration for my #1 pick. Since they are both my type of players. The reason I haven't mentioned them much is because I wasn't considering drafting a PG. Although Hayes is a PG I think there is more hope for him as a combo guard.

Snidely FC · Post #507 » by **Snidely FC** » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:19 pm

Avdija first game back post covid halt...

Watch on YouTube

Post #508 » by **Diop** » Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:25 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Avdija first game back post covid halt...

Watch on YouTube

He definitely is intriguing,

316Hornets · Post #509 » by **316Hornets** » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:13 am

Avdija is a poor free throw shooter, has a slow release, and his size advantage won't be nearly as big playing in the NBA. He has some talent but I think a very low ceiling and high bust potential.

UNCNYC · Post #510 » by **UNCNYC** » Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:24 pm

Since a few on here like the idea of drafting a Center, here is one that should be available late in the draft . Daniel Oturu. He is a solid prospect, but doesn't do anything flashy... I doubt he would be the answer to fill our void at center, but he could be a decent option if fell to our 56 pick.

Watch on YouTube

UNCNYC · Post #511 » by **UNCNYC** » Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:27 pm

I am not a fan of any Center in this years draft. If I were to choose one it would probably be Jalen Smith. 2nd would be tied with Zeke Nnaji and Caleb Wesson. DJ Funderburk I think is soso

EDIT:

FIVE CENTERS I would consider drafting in this years draft

Jalen Smith
Reggie Perry
Caleb Wesson
Zeke Nnaji
DJ Funderburk

bravor · Post #512 » by **bravor** » Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:50 pm

Tillman would not be a bad choice at 32. The ceiling and his age are a concern, but it is a sure bet - his skills can translate as he is obviously not counting 'just' on his athleticism to impact the game, and he is by far the best passing big in this draft (if he is still available by then).

Anyway most likely Hornets won't get their star in this draft and need to lock high lottery picks for 2022/23. I just hope they won't gamble too much with 'potential' and do a mix (or even play safe, ie pick Okongwu vs Wiseman for example).

Snidely FC · Post #513 » by **Snidely FC** » Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:19 pm

Avdija second game back; small sample size but Avdija 5/10 from 3 and 9/10 from free throw line in those two games; he also purportedly added 6kg of muscle during covid hiatus

Watch on YouTube

Snidely FC · Post #514 » by **Snidely FC** » Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:17 pm

Haliburton also putting in work during hiatus; quote from ESPN+ article

The gains I've made with my body will impress people. It's been six days a week in the weight room for two months basically. I've never lifted like this before.

Chapelchilla · Post #515 » by **Chapelchilla** » Wed Jul 1, 2020 5:51 pm

Deni looks pretty good. If he were to fall to 8, I would be cool with that pick.

Liver_Pooty · Post #516 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Jul 1, 2020 6:19 pm

Haliburton would be amazing around 8. No way he last that far. Same with Deni

Braggins · Post #517 » by **Braggins** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 5:02 pm

I have no idea what to make of this draft and for some reason Im having a hard time getting myself interested in it, which is bizarre because the draft is usually one of my favorite things about the NBA season.

amcoolio · Post #518 » by **amcoolio** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 5:16 pm

Braggins wrote:I have no idea what to make of this draft and for some reason Im having a hard time getting myself interested in it, which is bizarre because the draft is usually one of my favorite things about the NBA season.

Unless we get a top 2 pick I don't see our lottery pick cracking the starting lineup, so yes its a little abysmal

This draft is probably like the 2010 draft. Just a bunch of average bench players past the first 2 picks, with a couple diamonds that require the absolute best situation in order to be all-stars

Braggins · Post #519 » by **Braggins** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 5:34 pm

amcoolio wrote:
Braggins wrote:I have no idea what to make of this draft and for some reason Im having a hard time getting myself interested in it, which is bizarre because the draft is usually one of my favorite things about the NBA season.

Unless we get a top 2 pick I don't see our lottery pick cracking the starting lineup, so yes its a little abysmal

This draft is probably like the 2010 draft. Just a bunch of average bench players past the first 2 picks, with a couple diamonds that require the absolute best situation in order to be all-stars

Yeah, thats part of it too. This draft also just doesn't really seem that good. There will be some great players come from it I'm sure, but we've kind of been spoiled by some really amazing drafts recently and this one just feels a bit lackluster.

JMAC3 · Post #520 » by **JMAC3** » Tue Jul 7, 2020 2:14 am

Hey guys,

Been awhile since I have posted but here is my early top 10.

1. Edwards
2. Okungwu
3. Avdija
4. Wiseman
5. Toppin
6. Halliburton
7. Lamelo
8. Vassell
9. Hayes
10. Saddiq Bey

Subject to change but after watching about 20-30 mins of highlights/interviews on each top 15 guy this is where I am currently at.

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