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Post#701 » by Strick » Mon Jul 6, 2020 9:44 pm

Deni is probably #3 on my list. I think he’s going to be a very good player. Might not become a true super star but he will help the team he ends up on in many ways I believe. He would be a nice stretch 4 option with potential to be a secondary playmaker. His jumper is looking much smoother which was one of the bigger concerns about him. You can tell he works his ass off
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Post#702 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jul 6, 2020 9:45 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:You can have 2 of them. :D I only need 1. I have filled out all my other positions


Deni at point in the SIM might be a bit much to ask...we shall see

Can easily put Lavine at point and throw Deni at the 2 if it doesnt work


maybe defensively that could have some issues.
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Post#703 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jul 6, 2020 9:51 pm

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Deni at point in the SIM might be a bit much to ask...we shall see

Can easily put Lavine at point and throw Deni at the 2 if it doesnt work


maybe defensively that could have some issues.

I dont mind. I have 3 other elite defenders to cover them
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Post#704 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jul 6, 2020 9:57 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Can easily put Lavine at point and throw Deni at the 2 if it doesnt work


maybe defensively that could have some issues.

I dont mind. I have 3 other elite defenders to cover them


I do think you will have good rim protection for sure. But you will need some perimeter help if you go that route in terms of dealing with some speed because I wouldn't want Lavine or Deni guarding say Kemba Walker who's in your division. But that is obviously nit picking.
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Post#705 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jul 6, 2020 10:11 pm

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maybe defensively that could have some issues.

I dont mind. I have 3 other elite defenders to cover them


I do think you will have good rim protection for sure. But you will need some perimeter help if you go that route in terms of dealing with some speed because I wouldn't want Lavine or Deni guarding say Kemba Walker who's in your division. But that is obviously nit picking.

I will just put Tatum on Kemba and leave the rim protection to Ayton. Deni will guard the 4's. Bam can guard the 3 or 2. Positionless ball :o
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Post#706 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jul 6, 2020 10:34 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I dont mind. I have 3 other elite defenders to cover them


I do think you will have good rim protection for sure. But you will need some perimeter help if you go that route in terms of dealing with some speed because I wouldn't want Lavine or Deni guarding say Kemba Walker who's in your division. But that is obviously nit picking.

I will just put Tatum on Kemba and leave the rim protection to Ayton. Deni will guard the 4's. Bam can guard the 3 or 2. Positionless ball :o


well damn. So no more Hayes for you huh?
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Post#707 » by robillionaire » Mon Jul 6, 2020 10:49 pm

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KnicksGadfly wrote:I'm so confused by why people like Hampton so much. He seems like the type of prospect the old Knicks would draft. Only thing he needs to do is kill his workout.


Fantasy. They are still remembering the hype that Hampton was tagged with a few years ago. The notion that he was going to be the next great do all wing. Superb length, athleticism, shot creation, distribution, defense, etc., etc. He was even talked about as a 'generational' talent.

Reality? Hampton hasn't shown a lick of improvement and really can't do anything well. He still has the same skinny frame that can't handle being hit. He still has the same loose handles. He still has the same lack of creativity with the ball when someone is actually guarding him. The same deer-in-the-headlights, chick with it's legs cut off look and feel. My guess is that he bought into the hype and never put in the effort to improve and work on his game.


he got into a tough league playing against adults and had a wake up call. And fell in the draft because of it. If anything would inspire someone to work on their game and improve I'd say it's that. who knows what he's been doing the last 6-7 months. but with the potential still there and a very young player he could be a steal of a pick for someone in the mid 1st round
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Post#708 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jul 6, 2020 10:57 pm

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I do think you will have good rim protection for sure. But you will need some perimeter help if you go that route in terms of dealing with some speed because I wouldn't want Lavine or Deni guarding say Kemba Walker who's in your division. But that is obviously nit picking.

I will just put Tatum on Kemba and leave the rim protection to Ayton. Deni will guard the 4's. Bam can guard the 3 or 2. Positionless ball :o


well damn. So no more Hayes for you huh?

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Post#709 » by newyorker4ever » Mon Jul 6, 2020 11:58 pm

Zenzibar wrote:2nd rounder

Jordan Nwora 2019-20 Season Highlights | Louisville Forward



He was being projected as a mid 1st round pick a couple months back but now he's going in the upper to middle 2nd round in every mock i've seen.
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Post#710 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Jul 7, 2020 12:02 am

-YogiBiz- wrote:If we fall to #8, I think Vassell would have to be the pick. Unless by some miracle we still get Haliburton/Anthony @ #8. But if anyone but Charlotte, or Minn jumps us in the lottery, we could potentially see 3 PGs go before we pick. Are Haliburton/Anthony even equal to Vassell as prospects?


I'm a big Vassell fan but at #8 i'd be real happy to get Hali and if not Hali then still happy with Vassell or Cole at #8. I have a little more belief in Cole then most on here do but i also get why those people are nervous about drafting him. I think if he takes to the NBA coaching and works on being a true PG, especially with his passing, that he could be a good PG in the NBA.
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Post#711 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Jul 7, 2020 12:12 am

mpharris36 wrote:I don't know whats more impressive for Deni the improved shooting or the passing from that clip.

from the 52 second mark he drives and makes crazy nice pass to a wide open corner 3 (that was missed). Then follows that up with a sick around the defenders back bounce pass for a layup. Then the last play with an on point nearly half court alley oop pass...


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Post#712 » by Zenzibar » Tue Jul 7, 2020 1:21 am

newyorker4ever wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:2nd rounder

Jordan Nwora 2019-20 Season Highlights | Louisville Forward



He was being projected as a mid 1st round pick a couple months back but now he's going in the upper to middle 2nd round in every mock i've seen.


These are the type of players that were affected tremendously by the shorted season. The type that of nice players the Knicks are notorious for sneaking in and grabbing in the 2nd round.
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Post#713 » by Juco24 » Tue Jul 7, 2020 10:57 am

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I've been on the Dani train for a while now... he's a big guy who can really handle the ball and seems to be able to make others around him better. (definitely unselfish).

I understand the need/want for a PG but I'm not so sure Dani can't facilitate an offense himself and add in RJ to that and possibly Frank can become consistent (damn sure showed glimpses last year) and the PG isn't so much of a glaring need.

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Post#714 » by rajajackal » Tue Jul 7, 2020 12:22 pm

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I've been on the Dani train for a while now... he's a big guy who can really handle the ball and seems to be able to make others around him better. (definitely unselfish).

I understand the need/want for a PG but I'm not so sure Dani can't facilitate an offense himself and add in RJ to that and possibly Frank can become consistent (damn sure showed glimpses last year) and the PG isn't so much of a glaring need.

I like Dani


we need a stretch 4, too! happy to take Deni. fits really well between Robinson and Barrett IMO
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Post#715 » by Deeeez Knicks » Tue Jul 7, 2020 12:25 pm

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KnicksGadfly wrote:I'm so confused by why people like Hampton so much. He seems like the type of prospect the old Knicks would draft. Only thing he needs to do is kill his workout.


Fantasy. They are still remembering the hype that Hampton was tagged with a few years ago. The notion that he was going to be the next great do all wing. Superb length, athleticism, shot creation, distribution, defense, etc., etc. He was even talked about as a 'generational' talent.

Reality? Hampton hasn't shown a lick of improvement and really can't do anything well. He still has the same skinny frame that can't handle being hit. He still has the same loose handles. He still has the same lack of creativity with the ball when someone is actually guarding him. The same deer-in-the-headlights, chick with it's legs cut off look and feel. My guess is that he bought into the hype and never put in the effort to improve and work on his game.


To be fair, I have read a few scouting reports that mention he has a really good ethic. He was recently working out with Penny and Ja in Memphis. It is one of those things that is always hard to say what will happen for any kid when they start getting pay checks though.

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If R.J. is feeling up to it, he’ll get in a workout on Sunday afternoon with Hardaway at the Tigers’ facility — with an emphasis on social distancing, of course. Hardaway then puts R.J. through two-a-days Monday through Wednesday. The sessions are intense, certainly, but the emphasis is on the nuances of the game.

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Post#716 » by -YogiBiz- » Tue Jul 7, 2020 12:31 pm

moocow007 wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:I'm so confused by why people like Hampton so much. He seems like the type of prospect the old Knicks would draft. Only thing he needs to do is kill his workout.


Fantasy. They are still remembering the hype that Hampton was tagged with a few years ago. The notion that he was going to be the next great do all wing. Superb length, athleticism, shot creation, distribution, defense, etc., etc. He was even talked about as a 'generational' talent.

Reality? Hampton hasn't shown a lick of improvement and really can't do anything well. He still has the same skinny frame that can't handle being hit. He still has the same loose handles. He still has the same lack of creativity with the ball when someone is actually guarding him. The same deer-in-the-headlights, chick with it's legs cut off look and feel. My guess is that he bought into the hype and never put in the effort to improve and work on his game.


R.J might not be great, but he still took LaMelo's lunch money whenever they were matched up. Both Ends.
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Post#717 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Jul 7, 2020 2:26 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:2nd rounder

Jordan Nwora 2019-20 Season Highlights | Louisville Forward



He was being projected as a mid 1st round pick a couple months back but now he's going in the upper to middle 2nd round in every mock i've seen.


These are the type of players that were affected tremendously by the shorted season. The type that of nice players the Knicks are notorious for sneaking in and grabbing in the 2nd round.


Same thing with N.Mannion. 2 months ago when Nwora was projected to go 1st round Mannion was projected to go in the lottery sooooooo.......................Mannion at #27 and Nwora at #38... 8-)
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Post#718 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue Jul 7, 2020 3:04 pm

-YogiBiz- wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:I'm so confused by why people like Hampton so much. He seems like the type of prospect the old Knicks would draft. Only thing he needs to do is kill his workout.


Fantasy. They are still remembering the hype that Hampton was tagged with a few years ago. The notion that he was going to be the next great do all wing. Superb length, athleticism, shot creation, distribution, defense, etc., etc. He was even talked about as a 'generational' talent.

Reality? Hampton hasn't shown a lick of improvement and really can't do anything well. He still has the same skinny frame that can't handle being hit. He still has the same loose handles. He still has the same lack of creativity with the ball when someone is actually guarding him. The same deer-in-the-headlights, chick with it's legs cut off look and feel. My guess is that he bought into the hype and never put in the effort to improve and work on his game.


R.J might not be great, but he still took LaMelo's lunch money whenever they were matched up. Both Ends.


LaMelo had a triple double the last game he played against the Breakers
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Post#719 » by -YogiBiz- » Tue Jul 7, 2020 3:13 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
-YogiBiz- wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Fantasy. They are still remembering the hype that Hampton was tagged with a few years ago. The notion that he was going to be the next great do all wing. Superb length, athleticism, shot creation, distribution, defense, etc., etc. He was even talked about as a 'generational' talent.

Reality? Hampton hasn't shown a lick of improvement and really can't do anything well. He still has the same skinny frame that can't handle being hit. He still has the same loose handles. He still has the same lack of creativity with the ball when someone is actually guarding him. The same deer-in-the-headlights, chick with it's legs cut off look and feel. My guess is that he bought into the hype and never put in the effort to improve and work on his game.


R.J might not be great, but he still took LaMelo's lunch money whenever they were matched up. Both Ends.


LaMelo had a triple double the last game he played against the Breakers


1 assist off, and he went 10-28 to get 25 points. He literally went 2-9 with RJ matched up on him. Those two shots made were also contested fade away long 2s. **** if RJ got 28 shots a game, would we as fans be just as much on his nut sack.

Look past a box score (Btw the box score shows that the kid shot terribly and turned the ball over 6 times (1 steal by RJ and a bad pass while RJ was guarding him)).

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Post#720 » by HEZI » Tue Jul 7, 2020 3:18 pm

-YogiBiz- wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
-YogiBiz- wrote:
R.J might not be great, but he still took LaMelo's lunch money whenever they were matched up. Both Ends.


LaMelo had a triple double the last game he played against the Breakers


1 assist off, and he went 10-28 to get 25 points. He literally went 2-9 with RJ matched up on him. Those two shots made were also contested fade away long 2s. **** if RJ got 28 shots a game, would we as fans be just as much on his nut sack.

Look past a box score (Btw the box score shows that the kid shot terribly and turned the ball over 6 times (1 steal by RJ and a bad pass while RJ was guarding him)).

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