2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 6) -LOTTO 8/20 DRAFT 10/16!

[Deeeez Knicks]

LaMelo struggled the first 6 games.

Over the last 6 games he averaged 22.0 points, 9.2 boards and 8.2 assists with shooting splits of 40/31/75.

He was def coming around.

Def sucks we need to debate 12 game sample sizes like this but there has to be some sort of learning curve playing on the other side of the world.

Yeah, just adjusting to a totally different world and style is another thing that adds some obstacles. And then its a small sample size...its tough trying to judge either Ball or Hampton. It does add some more risk, but maybe some reward too. There are not many sure things in this draft though

[3toheadmelo]

LaMelo struggled the first 6 games.

Over the last 6 games he averaged 22.0 points, 9.2 boards and 8.2 assists with shooting splits of 40/31/75.

He was def coming around.

Those are pretty poor shooting numbers against weak competition

The shooting splits aren't that bad especially considering the context. The big thing is it looks like he can get better.

Its against grown men so it's more physical and tougher in that way. The competition is tougher then UIC and South Carolina State. This league has dudes taller then 6'7".

The competition is still bad bro

[3toheadmelo]

Look you guys can downplay how bad the league is but the fact remains, there’s no player that shot as low as 46% TS and ended up being a star. And that’s in any league. So Lamelo is gonna have to make unprecedented history here.

[Gravy]

I hope our pick has a better rookie season than RJ, he was pretty bad most of the year. He could still turn out great but its hard to get excited when the start is so uncertain.

[JXL]

I have reservations about LaMelo and the circus he's inviting if he truly wants to end up in NY. This is a huge decision the franchise has to make to find the RIGHT franchise PG. I would rather go with Killian Hayes because he has the ultimate upside to be a really good PG due to being in the best European league contributing really good minutes. He may not have the better passing acumen that LaMelo possesses, but he can defend the hell outta the ball, has really good athleticism, shoots better than LaMelo and attacks the basket while taking contact. Paring him with RJ at the backcourt, and you have locked up your future for a long time (assuming the Knicks play this smartly).

I really don't want the circus that LaMelo and his bad breath father could bring to MSG.

[robillionaire]

All the wailing and gnashing of teeth in the world won’t change who is at the top of the knicks board, bros. This is what your team wants for better or worse

[Deeeez Knicks]

Those are pretty poor shooting numbers against weak competition

The shooting splits aren't that bad especially considering the context. The big thing is it looks like he can get better.

Its against grown men so it's more physical and tougher in that way. The competition is tougher then UIC and South Carolina State. This league has dudes taller then 6'7".

The competition is still bad bro

He is still going against vets and pros. It is def better then D3 competition. It's just a 12 game sample size where he struggled the first 6, looked much better the next 6. Even if you just look at the numbers...22.0 points, 9.2 boards and 8.2 assists with shooting splits of 40/31/75 is still impressive. Doesn't need to shoot 40% from 3. Even if he is just 31-35% can still be a really good player...Luka only shoots 32% from 3.

[DaGawd]

If Walt Perrin signs off on LaMelo I'd be inclined to believe he's the real deal. Dude seems to know talent

[3toheadmelo]

All the wailing and gnashing of teeth in the world won’t change who is at the top of the knicks board, bros. This is what your team wants for better or worse

Doesn’t mean anything unless you expect him to drop in the 6-8 range

[3toheadmelo]

The shooting splits aren't that bad especially considering the context. The big thing is it looks like he can get better.

Its against grown men so it's more physical and tougher in that way. The competition is tougher then UIC and South Carolina State. This league has dudes taller then 6'7".

The competition is still bad bro

He is still going against vets and pros. It is def better then D3 competition. It's just a 12 game sample size where he struggled the first 6, looked much better the next 6. Even if you just look at the numbers...22.0 points, 9.2 boards and 8.2 assists with shooting splits of 40/31/75 is still impressive. Doesn't need to shoot 40% from 3. Even if he is just 31-35% can still be a really good player...Luka only shoots 32% from 3.

Luka’s TS is 58%. Lamelo’s is 46%. There’s a big difference.

And the competition is pretty weak at the end of the day. Washed up vets and pros. Who’s the best guy there? Aaron Brooks? Come on. Lol It’s not even close to D1.

[robillionaire]

All the wailing and gnashing of teeth in the world won’t change who is at the top of the knicks board, bros. This is what your team wants for better or worse

Doesn’t mean anything unless you expect him to drop in the 6-8 range

We at least have a 37.2% chance of top 4 and when things are spoken into existence sometimes the league takes note and acts accordingly if you smell what I’m cooking

[3toheadmelo]

All the wailing and gnashing of teeth in the world won’t change who is at the top of the knicks board, bros. This is what your team wants for better or worse

Doesn’t mean anything unless you expect him to drop in the 6-8 range

We at least have a 37.2% chance of top 4 and when things are spoken into existence sometimes the league takes note and acts accordingly if you smell what I’m cooking

Zion and Steph curry wanted to be a Knick. I wouldn’t bet on it

[robillionaire]

Doesn’t mean anything unless you expect him to drop in the 6-8 range

We at least have a 37.2% chance of top 4 and when things are spoken into existence sometimes the league takes note and acts accordingly if you smell what I’m cooking

Zion and Steph curry wanted to be a Knick. I wouldn’t bet on it

they asked zion if he would like to play for the knicks and he gave a political "yes if they draft me I would love to play for them" answer followed by "whatever team I land on that's where I want to be" ya'll read too much into it

[Deeeez Knicks]

The competition is still bad bro

He is still going against vets and pros. It is def better then D3 competition. It's just a 12 game sample size where he struggled the first 6, looked much better the next 6. Even if you just look at the numbers...22.0 points, 9.2 boards and 8.2 assists with shooting splits of 40/31/75 is still impressive. Doesn't need to shoot 40% from 3. Even if he is just 31-35% can still be a really good player...Luka only shoots 32% from 3.

Luka’s TS is 58%. Lamelo’s is 46%. There’s a big difference.

And the competition is pretty weak at the end of the day. Washed up vets and pros. Who’s the best guy there? Aaron Brooks? Come on. Lol It’s not even close to D1.

He is probably not going to be Luka, so that is ok. His TS% and efficiency over the last 6 games was getting better and improved. That was more the point. He was playing better. It is still def a concern, but something he can improve. The playmaking and passing is what sets him apart though. He can be really good and make a huge impact without nescessarily being super efficient.

Even if you look at D1, how many of those guys even make it to the NBA and have careers? Maybe 1%? Most college players end up in leagues like Australia, except they are bigger/stronger/more experienced. Yea, the top guys in the NCAA are better, but when you look at the overall competition its close. A bunch of dudes in NBL were all conference college players (Bryce Cotton, Casper Ware, etc). Of course most arent good enough to be in the NBA, but thats how most leagues are. Even in this draft, maybe like 15-20 players may actually end up with a long term NBA career?

[3toheadmelo]

We at least have a 37.2% chance of top 4 and when things are spoken into existence sometimes the league takes note and acts accordingly if you smell what I’m cooking

Zion and Steph curry wanted to be a Knick. I wouldn’t bet on it

they asked zion if he would like to play for the knicks and he gave a political "yes if they draft me I would love to play for them" answer followed by "whatever team I land on that's where I want to be" ya'll read too much into it

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[robillionaire]

Zion and Steph curry wanted to be a Knick. I wouldn’t bet on it

they asked zion if he would like to play for the knicks and he gave a political "yes if they draft me I would love to play for them" answer followed by "whatever team I land on that's where I want to be" ya'll read too much into it

Nope

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oh well "source" said it so it's true

who wanted to play for the knicks and took the steps to make it happen? RJ. and lo and behold we drafted him

"After working out for the Knicks on Monday, R.J. Barrett told reporters that he will not meet with any other teams and declared that he hopes New York will select him with the third overall pick in the NBA draft on June 20."This is the place I want to be, I hope they draft me"

[3toheadmelo]

He is still going against vets and pros. It is def better then D3 competition. It's just a 12 game sample size where he struggled the first 6, looked much better the next 6. Even if you just look at the numbers...22.0 points, 9.2 boards and 8.2 assists with shooting splits of 40/31/75 is still impressive. Doesn't need to shoot 40% from 3. Even if he is just 31-35% can still be a really good player...Luka only shoots 32% from 3.

Luka’s TS is 58%. Lamelo’s is 46%. There’s a big difference.

And the competition is pretty weak at the end of the day. Washed up vets and pros. Who’s the best guy there? Aaron Brooks? Come on. Lol It’s not even close to D1.

He is probably not going to be Luka, so that is ok. His TS% and efficiency over the last 6 games was getting better and improved. That was more the point. He was playing better. It is still def a concern, but something he can improve. The playmaking and passing is what sets him apart though. He can be really good and make a huge impact without nescessarily being super efficient.

Even if you look at D1, how many of those guys even make it to the NBA and have careers? Maybe 1%? Most college players end up in leagues like Australia, except they are bigger/stronger/more experienced. Yea, the top guys in the NCAA are better, but when you look at the overall competition its close. A bunch of dudes in NBL were all conference college players (Bryce Cotton, Casper Ware, etc). Of course most arent good enough to be in the NBA, but thats how most leagues are. Even in this draft, maybe like 15-20 players may actually end up with a long term NBA career?

You just made my case. Byrce Cotton and Casper Ware were nobodies in the NBA. If those players are his best competition then it's pretty obvious the league is very bad lol

Last 6 games doesn't mean much and the numbers are still poor. So he went from extremely terrible to mediocre... im not that impressed.

Like I said, Lamelo is gonna have to make unprecedented history so.. if you want to bet on that then that's you

[3toheadmelo]

they asked zion if he would like to play for the knicks and he gave a political "yes if they draft me I would love to play for them" answer followed by "whatever team I land on that's where I want to be" ya'll read too much into it

Nope

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oh well "source" said it so it's true

who wanted to play for the knicks and took the steps to make it happen? RJ. and lo and behold we drafted him

"After working out for the Knicks on Monday, R.J. Barrett told reporters that he will not meet with any other teams and declared that he hopes New York will select him with the third overall pick in the NBA draft on June 20."This is the place I want to be, I hope they draft me"

Yes just like how your "sources" say that Lamelo is at the top of our board

Steph refused to work out for every team besides us so your point is still pretty moot

[robillionaire]

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oh well "source" said it so it's true

who wanted to play for the knicks and took the steps to make it happen? RJ. and lo and behold we drafted him

"After working out for the Knicks on Monday, R.J. Barrett told reporters that he will not meet with any other teams and declared that he hopes New York will select him with the third overall pick in the NBA draft on June 20."This is the place I want to be, I hope they draft me"

Yes just like how your "sources" say that Lamelo is at the top of our board

Steph refused to work out for every team besides us so your point is still pretty moot

my source is lavar

[3toheadmelo]

Cade > Lamelo

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