Suns Path to Playoffs

SunsRback4Good · Post #181 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 1:51 pm

Should I bet $750 on Suns making it to WCF? :dontknow:

Ghost of Kleine · Post #182 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 3:54 pm

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So basically we only have an 8% chance to make the playoffs with our winning streak considered?

SunsRback4Good · Post #183 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 3:59 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote::-?

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So basically we only have an 8% chance to make the playoffs with our winning streak considered?

What a load of crap. Prior to bubble games our chances of play in games had to be 1-2%. Now 4 wins later it increases to just 8%? I figured 40-50% chance of getting the final two seeds. Oh well, guess I am not a mathematician.

SunsRback4Good · Post #184 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 4:01 pm

Maybe with a Pels & Grizzlies lose today, we can jump to 12% of making play in games. :dontknow:

PharmD · Post #185 » by **PharmD** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 4:14 pm

Denver not playing Jokic in the 4th and letting Portland win and Utah sitting all their players vs San Antonio tonight really hurts. Pretty much need Memphis to lose out AND the Suns to go 4-0.

sunsbg · Post #186 » by **sunsbg** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 5:15 pm

These 8 games are our playoffs. Nice experience for the young players.

darmani · Post #187 » by **darmani** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 5:37 pm

starbosa10 wrote:
Revived wrote:
Dual wrote:The big problem is teams resting players, I saw tonight Jazz are resting 5 or 6 players against Spurs...

This is just so lame. I thought the whole point of having a few regular season games instead of going directly into playoffs was so give teams a chance to get back into game shape and get back into their groove.

If teams are just gonna rest players for the remaining regular season games, then why even have these games? Why didn't they just go directly into playoffs once they came into the bubble? Preseason and then directly to playoffs should've been what they should've done.

And yes I'm well aware of the Isaac, Jackson Jr, and Simmons injuries. Those are all part of the game and could've happened in practice or in the first game of playoffs as well imo.

It is frustrating but the heat could sit Jimmy tomorrow, Sixers won't have Simmons, I could see the Mavs sitting people in our last game. We also got wizards without Beal and Pacers without Sabonis. Obviously we haven't played anyone missing 4 of 5 starters like the spurs get to today

Yeah and the Thunder will be on a back-to-back when we play them so there's a chance they will rest CP3.

darmani · Post #188 » by **darmani** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 5:39 pm

PharmD wrote:Denver not playing Jokic in the 4th and letting Portland win and Utah sitting all their players vs San Antonio tonight really hurts. Pretty much need Memphis to lose out AND the Suns to go 4-0.

If we go 4-0 then the Grizzlies have to win 2 games to finish ahead of the Suns.

PharmD · Post #189 » by **PharmD** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 5:44 pm

darmani wrote:
PharmD wrote:Denver not playing Jokic in the 4th and letting Portland win and Utah sitting all their players vs San Antonio tonight really hurts. Pretty much need Memphis to lose out AND the Suns to go 4-0.

If we go 4-0 then the Grizzlies have to win 2 games to finish ahead of the Suns.

If Memphis goes 1-3 and the Suns go 4-0 the Suns are in the play-in. If Memphis goes 0-4 and the Suns go 3-1 it depends. Both Portland and Memphis having the tiebreaker over the Suns really hurts. The Suns have the tiebreaker over San Antonio.

darmani · Post #190 » by **darmani** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 5:54 pm

PharmD wrote:
darmani wrote:
PharmD wrote:Denver not playing Jokic in the 4th and letting Portland win and Utah sitting all their players vs San Antonio tonight really hurts. Pretty much need Memphis to lose out AND the Suns to go 4-0.

If we go 4-0 then the Grizzlies have to win 2 games to finish ahead of the Suns.

If Memphis goes 1-3 and the Suns go 4-0 the Suns are in the play-in. If Memphis goes 0-4 and the Suns go 3-1 it depends. Both Portland and Memphis having the tiebreaker over the Suns really hurts. The Suns have the tiebreaker over San Antonio.

Due to a different number of games played by teams the only team we can be tied with at the end of the season is Memphis. The tiebrakers with the Spurs and the Blazers don't matter.

SunsRback4Good · Post #191 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:05 pm

PharmD wrote:
darmani wrote:
PharmD wrote:Denver not playing Jokic in the 4th and letting Portland win and Utah sitting all their players vs San Antonio tonight really hurts. Pretty much need Memphis to lose out AND the Suns to go 4-0.

If we go 4-0 then the Grizzlies have to win 2 games to finish ahead of the Suns.

If Memphis goes 1-3 and the Suns go 4-0 the Suns are in the play-in. If Memphis goes 0-4 and the Suns go 3-1 it depends. Both Portland and Memphis having the tiebreaker over the Suns really hurts. The Suns have the tiebreaker over San Antonio.

But Suns beat Blazers two out 3 games this season. How do Blazers own a tie breaker over us?

Saberestar · Post #192 » by **Saberestar** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:12 pm

darmani wrote:
PharmD wrote:Denver not playing Jokic in the 4th and letting Portland win and Utah sitting all their players vs San Antonio tonight really hurts. Pretty much need Memphis to lose out AND the Suns to go 4-0.

If we go 4-0 then the Grizzlies have to win 2 games to finish ahead of the Suns.

Yeah, we all with the Thunder today!

Mr Puddles · Post #193 » by **Mr Puddles** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:13 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Revived wrote:
Dual wrote:The big problem is teams resting players, I saw tonight Jazz are resting 5 or 6 players against Spurs...

This is just so lame. I thought the whole point of having a few regular season games instead of going directly into playoffs was so give teams a chance to get back into game shape and get back into their groove.

If teams are just gonna rest players for the remaining regular season games, then why even have these games? Why didn't they just go directly into playoffs once they came into the bubble? Preseason and then directly to playoffs should've been what they should've done.

And yes I'm well aware of the Isaac, Jackson Jr, and Simmons injuries. Those are all part of the game and could've happened in practice or in the first game of playoffs as well imo.

It's like that in a normal regular season too. Teams are gonna rest their main players for the last couple of games before the playoffs, that's the way it has been for so many years, so I accept it and I think it's fair.

Not 4 games before the end of the season typically, unless a team really have its playoff position locked in. The Jazz are tied with the Rockets for the 4th and 5th spot, the only reason they're sitting players now is that there's no homecourt advantage in the bubble. If COVID hadn't happened, they'd be putting their best team out there to try to secure that 4th seed.

Mr Puddles · Post #194 » by **Mr Puddles** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:14 pm

SunsRback4Good wrote:Should I bet $750 on Suns making it to WCF?

Honestly, sell the house, get a second mortgage and tap into the kid's college fund - the bubble suns are a sure bet.

spanishninja · Post #195 » by **spanishninja** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:14 pm

darmani wrote:
PharmD wrote:
darmani wrote:If we go 4-0 then the Grizzlies have to win 2 games to finish ahead of the Suns.

If Memphis goes 1-3 and the Suns go 4-0 the Suns are in the play-in. If Memphis goes 0-4 and the Suns go 3-1 it depends. Both Portland and Memphis having the tiebreaker over the Suns really hurts. The Suns have the tiebreaker over San Antonio.

Due to a different number of games played by teams the only team we can be tied with at the end of the season is Memphis. The tiebrakers with the Spurs and the Blazers don't matter.

For the Spurs and Blazers, the difference in number of games is the tiebreaker.

Saberestar · Post #196 » by **Saberestar** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:16 pm

Mr Puddles wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
Revived wrote:This is just so lame. I thought the whole point of having a few regular season games instead of going directly into playoffs was so give teams a chance to get back into game shape and get back into their groove.

If teams are just gonna rest players for the remaining regular season games, then why even have these games? Why didn't they just go directly into playoffs once they came into the bubble? Preseason and then directly to playoffs should've been what they should've done.

And yes I'm well aware of the Isaac, Jackson Jr, and Simmons injuries. Those are all part of the game and could've happened in practice or in the first game of playoffs as well imo.

It's like that in a normal regular season too. Teams are gonna rest their main players for the last couple of games before the playoffs, that's the way it has been for so many years, so I accept it and I think it's fair.

Not 4 games before the end of the season typically, unless a team really have its playoff position locked in. The Jazz are tied with the Rockets for the 4th and 5th spot, the only reason they're sitting players now is that there's no homecourt advantage in the bubble. If COVID hadn't happened, they'd be putting their best team out there to try to secure that 4th seed.

IDK...some teams because they were tanking (you remember us?) and some teams because they were a lock for the playoffs...the last couple of weeks of every regular season was always a bit of a joke.

darmani · Post #197 » by **darmani** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:19 pm

spanishninja wrote:
darmani wrote:
PharmD wrote:If Memphis goes 1-3 and the Suns go 4-0 the Suns are in the play-in. If Memphis goes 0-4 and the Suns go 3-1 it depends. Both Portland and Memphis having the tiebreaker over the Suns really hurts. The Suns have the tiebreaker over San Antonio.

Due to a different number of games played by teams the only team we can be tied with at the end of the season is Memphis. The tiebrakers with the Spurs and the Blazers don't matter.

For the Spurs and Blazers, the difference in number of games is the tiebreaker.

Yeah, but it's not really a tie if teams have different records and different winning percentages.

spanishninja · Post #198 » by **spanishninja** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:36 pm

darmani wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
darmani wrote:Due to a different number of games played by teams the only team we can be tied with at the end of the season is Memphis. The tiebrakers with the Spurs and the Blazers don't matter.

For the Spurs and Blazers, the difference in number of games is the tiebreaker.

Yeah, but it's not really a tie if teams have different records and different winning percentages.

It's semantics really. Tie in terms of number of games back, which is typically how people look at things, but in this case it wouldn't be the correct way.

darmani · Post #199 » by **darmani** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:42 pm

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Post #200 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:46 pm

SunsRback4Good wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote::-?

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So basically we only have an 8% chance to make the playoffs with our winning streak considered?

What a load of crap. Prior to bubble games our chances of play in games had to be 1-2%. Now 4 wins later it increases to just 8%? I figured 40-50% chance of getting the final two seeds. Oh well, guess I am not a mathematician.

The other two places have us at 4 and 5%

There is barely margin for error...even if we only lose 1 game, if Memphis wins 1, they are ahead of us. And then Portland is as on fire as we are, and we are behind them...then both teams have the tiebreakers which could be the real killer.

Had we hung onto those last minute leads vs SA and Portland earlier in the year we'd look a lot better...we'd likely be the favorite, ahead of Portland and maybe have the tiebreaker...even if we had just won one it would have helped us a lot.