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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#281 » by 76ciology » Wed Aug 5, 2020 8:45 am

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Kobblehead wrote:I don't think we have any depth, either. We can't even field a proven, reliable, and established starting lineup.


We have plenty of depth. When you can get 25 min from horford off the bench, 10-15 min off bench of kork, Burke, Scott. That’s plenty of depth

And that’s not counting neto, Glenn Robinson 3 either.

The bench isn’t the problem. It’s this team doesn’t have chemistry. I see very little ball movement in the half court. Maybe this changes with Milton at least being able to shoot off an embiid kick out from the post. At least Milton will have someone running at him as opposed to Simmons who won’t shoot it. Milton can swing it to Harris or jrich or whoever is open if the close out happens

That is what this team is really missing. Half court ball movement. I really miss that from the 2017-2018 team. We moved the ball around a lot.

Part of is embiid tunnel vision. But as we all know. Part of is Simmons clogging up the interior or being flat out ignored.

I like the last play to win the game. Embiid trying to establish low post. Granted it lightweight poetl but even against Toronto. You can see Toronto fake the double team to confuse embiid as he gets low.

With a decent shooter in Milton on the same side. It will force teams to actually commit to either embiid or stay with Milton. It’s a very simple play.

So teams can fake the double team all they want with embiid. The open shooter just needs to shoot. They aren’t going to make all the shots. We just hope they make enough to keep team honest. It changes the complexity of how teams can defend embiid in the paint. I’d take my chances if Toronto wants to let gasol single team embiid 5 foot from the basket. Embiid is gonna to get fouled more times than often that close to the bucket. It’s when embiid tries to dribble and back gasol down from 15 feet outside where gasol and Toronto have all the advantages in the world. Embiid 5 foot from the basket single team by gasol. I’d take embiid getting some points.


Agree with the depth.

Burks and GRob are proven to be able to score against 2nd units.

Then Thybulle is all time great caliber defensive player with respectable 3pt (defenders aint leaving him open).
Plus there’s Al, who is basically kevin love with defense (jk on that part).

The problem with our roster is not talent but about chemistry.

And it’s not going to be solved when we want to be something we’re not and specially without continuity.

Right now, it’s best we give it time.
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#282 » by Kobblehead » Wed Aug 5, 2020 1:32 pm

kuclas wrote:We have plenty of depth. When you can get 25 min from horford off the bench, 10-15 min off bench of kork, Burke, Scott. That’s plenty of depth

And that’s not counting neto, Glenn Robinson 3 either.


Al Horford is the only guy you named that is worth a damn, in my eyes.

Burke isn't even on the team anymore.
Neto sucks.
Robinson sucks.
Scott sucks.
Korkmaz can't defend or create so his playoff usefulness is weak.

And we're starting a guy in Shake Milton who probably wouldn't even crack the 8 man rotation on the majority of the playoff teams. Our depth is pretty weak from my perspective.

Embiid, Simmons, Richardson, Harris, Horford, Thybulle, and maybe Burks. Only guys I feel okay with bringing to the playoffs.
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#283 » by 76ciology » Wed Aug 5, 2020 5:52 pm

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Sixers got 2 of them. Not that thrilled on Al’s defense on Giannis though
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#284 » by elchengue20 » Wed Aug 5, 2020 6:42 pm

I don't see the great depth neither. Horford is a luxury of the bench, but he doesn't fit well with our best player. So the ways you can use him are limited.

Thybulle is good but a rookie.

Burks is not bad, still not close as reliable as the best 6th man scorers like Schroeder, Lou Will, Rose, Dragic, Gordon, etc.

Kork is a decent player to have, but nothing great, there is a lot of players better than him coming off the bench. Also he can be useless in a lot of matchups in the Playoffs.

Scott, Neto, Glenn Robinson are boderline NBA players, they suck.

I don't think our depth is terrible, but nothing close to great or being a great advantage for us.

And that's without saying that one of our starters (Shake) is a recent G leaguer who could come off the bench at any time, puting one of those players in the starting lineup.
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#285 » by elchengue20 » Wed Aug 5, 2020 6:47 pm

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Sixers got 2 of them. Not that thrilled on Al’s defense on Giannis though



Letting him shoot 67% TS is great defense? Thats pretty bad. Jabari Parker got better numbers than him. Though watching Jabari in the top 10 makes mi doubt about this metric lol.

Great to see Embiid in the Top 2, he clearly is one of the few players in the NBA who can really get in Giannis way.
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#286 » by phillynative » Wed Aug 5, 2020 9:15 pm

I didnt know bam played giannis so well. Thats a huge boost for miami.
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#287 » by Negrodamus » Wed Aug 5, 2020 9:25 pm

At least Horford will be our Giannis-stopper when Embiid is resting, amirite?
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#288 » by Kobblehead » Wed Aug 5, 2020 10:28 pm

76ciology wrote:Not that thrilled on Al’s defense on Giannis though

It was always a misconception that Horford could defend Giannis. He blocked him near the rim like once and everyone shared the clip. Boston swarmed Giannis with double and triple teams all series long. Kanter would have had the same degree of success with all that help.
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#289 » by 76ciology » Thu Aug 6, 2020 5:16 am

Sixers Bubble stats in 3 games
Sixers starting unit without Al: -21.8NetRtg
Embiid and Al: +15.6 NetRtg
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#290 » by 76ciology » Thu Aug 6, 2020 5:45 am

After 3 games
3pt%
Biid is shooting 11%
Tobi is shooting 38.9%
JRich is shooting 40%
Milton is shooting 50%
Burks at 100%!
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#291 » by 76ciology » Thu Aug 6, 2020 6:45 am

Milton last two games
15ppg 65FG% and 55% 3pt%
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#292 » by Wilfried » Thu Aug 6, 2020 10:40 am

76ciology wrote:After 3 games
3pt%
Biid is shooting 11%
Tobi is shooting 38.9%
JRich is shooting 40%
Milton is shooting 50%
Burks at 100%!


Except for his 3PT%, otherwise Embiid is pretty impressive at shooting atm
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#293 » by Negrodamus » Fri Aug 7, 2020 2:46 am

76ciology wrote:
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Sixers got 2 of them. Not that thrilled on Al’s defense on Giannis though


I guess Bam didn't live up to his Giannis-killer rep tonight, lol.
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#294 » by 76ciology » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:18 am

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76ciology wrote:
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Sixers got 2 of them. Not that thrilled on Al’s defense on Giannis though


I guess Bam didn't live up to his Giannis-killer rep tonight, lol.


Yup. He didnt live up to it tonight. But if you watch how Bucks play, Bud have been on cruise mode with his rotation.

I find the top teams just preserving their guys and not showing their cards right now.
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#295 » by 76ciology » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:50 pm

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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#296 » by 76ciology » Fri Aug 7, 2020 7:05 pm

Would we be the favorite to win it if we have Brandon ingram instead of Ben Simmons?

Biid and two 20ppg scorers in Tobi and Ingram.
Then imagine the floor spacing with 5 guys who can shoot the ball at all times.
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Post#297 » by Negrodamus » Fri Aug 7, 2020 7:13 pm

76ciology wrote:Would we be the favorite to win it if we have Brandon ingram instead of Ben Simmons?

Biid and two 20ppg scorers in Tobi and Ingram.
Then imagine the floor spacing with 5 guys who can shoot the ball at all times.


I don't know about favorite, but we'd probably be in a better situation even if Ben were healthy. Ingram provides what we desperately need: a creator from three levels that can get to the line. I like to think we wouldn't have even traded for Tobias if we had Ingram. Fill some other holes to round the team out.
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Post#298 » by mike76 » Fri Aug 7, 2020 7:42 pm

76ciology wrote:Would we be the favorite to win it if we have Brandon ingram instead of Ben Simmons?

Biid and two 20ppg scorers in Tobi and Ingram.
Then imagine the floor spacing with 5 guys who can shoot the ball at all times.


You would run into several problems that would cap your ceiling with that type of front court.

1) Tobias and Ingram are not good defenders. You would have a very weak defensive frontcourt with those two paired together and all the contenders all have an elite scoring option at the SF/PF spot. Tobi/Ingram would get torched by them.

2) Ingram is actually nice because he has a very good spot-up 3 (and with his release point, it's impossible to block so he can take contested 3s very easily) and unlike Tobi he isn't afraid to jack it, taking 6+ 3s a game. Then again, both wings have 3PAr that are below league average (Ingram is better, but still below league average) and have an infatuation with over-dribbling. Surrounding Embiid with dribblers that are midrange savants isn't actually a good fit in the year 2020.

3) Embiid is the most ball dominant scorer (a good one I might add) in the league next to maybe Harden. Putting 2 other ball stoppers on the court doesn't actually lead to a fluid offense in the year 2020.

So we would not be the favorites to win it all with that frontcourt. Hell, I don't even think we would be better with that frontcourt versus a Simmons-Harris-Embiid frontcourt both talent or fit wise. That said, Ingram >>> Harris.

Edit:
For further context, Embiid is 9th in midrange field goal attempts per game
Ingram is 18th in midrange field goal attempts per game.
Harris is 27th in midrange field goal attempts per game.

having 2 guys in the same lineup that are top 30 in that stat is doable if both players are elite talent. Having 3 guys in the top 30 in that stat in the same lineup, and our offense will be very stagnant, very quickly.
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#299 » by elchengue20 » Fri Aug 7, 2020 10:24 pm

Yes, Ingram and Harris are very redundant. They are the same type of player, with Ingram being better than Harris at what they do.

If you have Ingram you need to trade Harris for sure and fill other holes of the team.

If i have to strictly awnser the question, still maybe i rather have Ingram than Simmons in this team. That's how much i dislike Simmons and Embiids fit, even more in the Playoffs. But isn't that Ingram would made us a much better team with this roster.
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Re: Championship hopes 

Post#300 » by Zumramania » Sat Aug 8, 2020 8:43 am

Why is our defense underperforming? Before Simmons got injured, at least on paper it should have been one of the strongest in the league.

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