Championship hopes

[Roy The Natural]

Add McCollum to the list of usual suspects. He is second fiddle to Lillard, but he is a stud.

Hasn't he always been on the list? (Btw, I thought he kinda looked like crap up until the final stretch of the game... But yeah, a guy that can shoot and iso like that certainly would help).

He looked like crap and I think his game will decline if you let him play the role that he has to play on our team.

The reason he was on the list was people envision him to play Jj’s role, he was playing really good then the premise was he’d be acquired via a tobi deal rather than a ben deal.

As a Blazer fan I'm willing to give CJ a pass on his subpar play in the bubble. I want to see CJ moved for roster balance purposes, and with the emergence if Gary Trent as a pretty reliable shooter and an already above average defender at 21 years old and Simons who's been up, but mostly down, and filled to the rim with talent I'd like to see CJ moved. But his CJ has a small back fracture that is likely very painful, and he's likely getting cortisone shots just to go out there.

I personally wouldn't trade CJ for Tobias. I think the 76ers need to add. I'd rather go with an AG+Ross deal from the Magic which would probably be on the table. It's also a lateral move for both teams but I think the fit is excellent in Philly and dubious in Portland.

[76ciology]

Hasn't he always been on the list? (Btw, I thought he kinda looked like crap up until the final stretch of the game... But yeah, a guy that can shoot and iso like that certainly would help).

He looked like crap and I think his game will decline if you let him play the role that he has to play on our team.

The reason he was on the list was people envision him to play Jj’s role, he was playing really good then the premise was he’d be acquired via a tobi deal rather than a ben deal.

As a Blazer fan I'm willing to give CJ a pass on his subpar play in the bubble. I want to see CJ moved for roster balance purposes, and with the emergence if Gary Trent as a pretty reliable shooter and an already above average defender at 21 years old and Simons who's been up, but mostly down, and filled to the rim with talent I'd like to see CJ moved. But his CJ has a small back fracture that is likely very painful, and he's likely getting cortisone shots just to go out there.

I personally wouldn't trade CJ for Tobias. I think the 76ers need to add. I'd rather go with an AG+Ross deal from the Magic which would probably be on the table. It's also a lateral move for both teams but I think the fit is excellent in Philly and dubious in Portland.

I dont think both teams would do a CJ for Tobias deal.

For me, CJ is a slight upgrade on offense but a downgrade for Tobi on defense. Then you consider health and overall league value of a wing compared to a guard.

And I dont think it’s gonna move the needle, we just trade one floor spacer for another floor spacer.

[ProcessDoctor]

Yes, more and more I feel like CJ probably doesn’t make us contenders.

Simmons trade: Harden, Dame, Beal, or Booker

Non-Simmons trade: Holiday, Mitchell, Lavine

[Negrodamus]

CJ actually fills a position of need. Tobias makes no sense on this team.

[youngcrev]

Add McCollum to the list of usual suspects. He is second fiddle to Lillard, but he is a stud.

Hasn't he always been on the list? (Btw, I thought he kinda looked like crap up until the final stretch of the game... But yeah, a guy that can shoot and iso like that certainly would help).

He looked like crap and I think his game will decline if you let him play the role that he has to play on our team.

The reason he was on the list was people envision him to play Jj’s role, he was playing really good then the premise was he’d be acquired via a tobi deal rather than a ben deal.

I don't think anyone envisions him that way (JJ role), and we're talking about guys to play with Ben and Jo, not Ben trade targets.

A lot of people think he could thrive as a primary ball handler. He usually puts up pretty big numbers when Dame doesn't play. He fits the mold of what we are looking for as a guy that can score both on and off ball at a fairly high level.

[youngcrev]

He looked like crap and I think his game will decline if you let him play the role that he has to play on our team.

The reason he was on the list was people envision him to play Jj’s role, he was playing really good then the premise was he’d be acquired via a tobi deal rather than a ben deal.

As a Blazer fan I'm willing to give CJ a pass on his subpar play in the bubble. I want to see CJ moved for roster balance purposes, and with the emergence if Gary Trent as a pretty reliable shooter and an already above average defender at 21 years old and Simons who's been up, but mostly down, and filled to the rim with talent I'd like to see CJ moved. But his CJ has a small back fracture that is likely very painful, and he's likely getting cortisone shots just to go out there.

I personally wouldn't trade CJ for Tobias. I think the 76ers need to add. I'd rather go with an AG+Ross deal from the Magic which would probably be on the table. It's also a lateral move for both teams but I think the fit is excellent in Philly and dubious in Portland.

I dont think both teams would do a CJ for Tobias deal.

For me, CJ is a slight upgrade on offense but a downgrade for Tobi on defense. Then you consider health and overall league value of a wing compared to a guard.

And I dont think it’s gonna move the needle, we just trade one floor spacer for another floor spacer.

I think Harris is a better defender, but since you wouldn't need to start Shake anymore (a bad defender), there'd be an opportunity to upgrade the overall defense of the lineup.

[ProcessDoctor]

If I’m giving up Thybulle, I’m asking for Trent Jr back. Simons has been all “potential” up to this point.

CJ(33)/Milton(15)
Richardson(28)/Trent Jr(20)
MLE(24)/Korkmaz(20)/Richardson(4)
Simmons(34)/Horford(10)/MLE(4)
Embiid(30)/Horford(18)

[sixers hoops]

Not optimally, but yes, I think it works, particularly if that guy is at least a willing shooter like say Dinwiddie or Jrue.

Ben and Embiid both need to be willing to space to the corners when the other is featured as the roll man.

As for names, I think we all know the usual suspects. Booker and Beal are the achetype, though I think a traditional PG could work as well, particularly if you were to also add a volume shooter. In terms of guys that would seem to actually be available, I'd be all for a new backcourt of CP3/Hield.

Just seems like there are some pretty clear things that the Simmons/Embiid pairing gives you at a high level, as well as some pretty glaring holes you need to fill. Surround them with as much playmaking and shooting as you can while trying to minimize what you sacrifice on the defensive end as much as possible.

Add McCollum to the list of usual suspects. He is second fiddle to Lillard, but he is a stud.

Hasn't he always been on the list? (Btw, I thought he kinda looked like crap up until the final stretch of the game... But yeah, a guy that can shoot and iso like that certainly would help).

He has been on the list. Watching the game made me think of him, but for a few years he was the guy people suggested we trade some assets for... when we had assets.

[sixers hoops]

He looked like crap and I think his game will decline if you let him play the role that he has to play on our team.

The reason he was on the list was people envision him to play Jj’s role, he was playing really good then the premise was he’d be acquired via a tobi deal rather than a ben deal.

As a Blazer fan I'm willing to give CJ a pass on his subpar play in the bubble. I want to see CJ moved for roster balance purposes, and with the emergence if Gary Trent as a pretty reliable shooter and an already above average defender at 21 years old and Simons who's been up, but mostly down, and filled to the rim with talent I'd like to see CJ moved. But his CJ has a small back fracture that is likely very painful, and he's likely getting cortisone shots just to go out there.

I personally wouldn't trade CJ for Tobias. I think the 76ers need to add. I'd rather go with an AG+Ross deal from the Magic which would probably be on the table. It's also a lateral move for both teams but I think the fit is excellent in Philly and dubious in Portland.

I dont think both teams would do a CJ for Tobias deal.

For me, CJ is a slight upgrade on offense but a downgrade for Tobi on defense. Then you consider health and overall league value of a wing compared to a guard.

And I dont think it’s gonna move the needle, we just trade one floor spacer for another floor spacer.

I’d do it in a heartbeat. CJ is a legit all-star guard who would really give this offense a big time play making guard. Tobias is a really good player, but CJ seems way better to me. Maybe I’m too high on him off that big fourth quarter he had tho.

[Sixerscan]

CJs a good player but if he was a no doubt all star the blazers wouldn’t have been so bad without Nurkic.

[elchengue20]

I think CJ could be better playing without Lillard. I don't mean he can be a 1st option, but playing here as a 2nd option behind Embiid(where he's the first perimeter option) could be an ideal role for him. I hate that he can't play defense so im not sure he's worth it.

[ProcessDoctor]

I think if CJ were as impactful as perceived, Portland wouldn’t head into the playoffs as the road team every year. He’s playing alongside a top 10 player and they’ve averaged a 1st round exit in 7 years together.

[stormi]

Agreed. CJ and Tobias are in the same tier

CJ can pop higher and Tobias is just freakishly consistent.

[M2J]

I think CJ and Tobias would be good trades for both teams. I'm not sure Carmelo stays there, but if he does Tobias and he could really sure up the wings for them, where Trent Jr could start at the 2 as a 3 & D spacer.

I actually believe that Tobias fits in perfectly pretty much anywhere but definitely in Philadelphia. But due to Ben Simmons, even if I don't think CJ is better than Tobi... he's a better fit as a primary ball handling floor spacer, that can get his own shot and create for others.

Philly gets probably a better closer, but would ideally be able to get improved play on both ends from Thybulle at the 3 to make it work in terms of balance.

Portland improves their spacing with the ability to move Collins to the bench and play 4 or 5 out, while also improving their defense.

[stormi]

We're winning the chip.

[76ciology]

We're winning the chip.

Oh you feel that too?

[76ciology]

I think CJ and Tobias would be good trades for both teams. I'm not sure Carmelo stays there, but if he does Tobias and he could really sure up the wings for them, where Trent Jr could start at the 2 as a 3 & D spacer.

I actually believe that Tobias fits in perfectly pretty much anywhere but definitely in Philadelphia. But due to Ben Simmons, even if I don't think CJ is better than Tobi... he's a better fit as a primary ball handling floor spacer, that can get his own shot and create for others.

Philly gets probably a better closer, but would ideally be able to get improved play on both ends from Thybulle at the 3 to make it work in terms of balance.

Portland improves their spacing with the ability to move Collins to the bench and play 4 or 5 out, while also improving their defense.

That’s the thing I dont understand..

How do you guys say Tobi doesnt fit with Ben and Jojo?

[76ciology]

Let’s just see how Tobi will play in the upcoming playoffs. I think he’ll continue his stellar play. Hoping the best for him and the team.

[76ciology]

We’re one of the top teams in limiting shot attempts at corner 3s and above the break 3s.

One of the top teams in allowing mid range shots.

But we’re one of the worst defensive teams In defending shots in the restricted area. Surprisingly.

Now imagine you are the opposing team and you tell yourself.. “our game plan tonight is to attack the rim and challenge Embiid and Horford’s rim protection”

[76ciology]

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