Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[BLACKFEET 2010]

I still think we are going to sell the farm for Donovan Mitchell.

I'd sell parts of it for him. I think it happens but after he does the one year extension etc

I think they do it before the season starts if Donovan asks out quietly. That way the Knicks have a star/superstar player on a rookie scale contract to (stop me if you’ve heard this before..) attract (Giannis) free agents in 2021.

Maybe we can take back Conley’s contract a la the Melo/Billups deal to lessen the blow.
But I think we’d REALLY have to sell the farm to do it.

When you look at Dame Lillard what would you give for a player that good? Now he’s 30 and we get the timeline thing. But Donovan is 7 years younger and isn’t that far off from being that ilk of player. He’d be the face of the rebrand “thing” Stoute said he “bringing”, Rose/CAA guy (as is Conley?) and he’s one of the few players you could envision actually being happy about being traded to the Knicks. He isn’t perfect but I don’t think I have to sell anyone on Donovan Mitchell.

The cost tho?
We need to look ourselves in the mirror on that one.

[-YogiBiz-]

So it's mutually agreed. Top targets this offseason are FVV and Joe Harris. Right?

[spree2kawhi]

So it's mutually agreed. Top targets this offseason are FVV and Joe Harris. Right?

Ingram, Grant, FVV, Harris, Hield, Beal...

[dakomish23]

A lot of other fans seem to think Hield wouldn’t cost much at all in a trade.

Here’s the SAC Fansided take on a Knicks deal

https://aroyalpain.com/2020/04/02/sacramento-kings-3-hield-trades/4/

[dakomish23]

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I’d just cut SAC out and take OPJ & Lauri if this was realistic. I don’t think it is.

[Richard4444]

So it's mutually agreed. Top targets this offseason are FVV and Joe Harris. Right?

Ingram, Grant, FVV, Harris, Hield, Beal...

Ingram is virtually impossible.

Beal is too expensive; it's too soon; he has only 2 years left in his contract before is free to leave or demand a SuperMax; it would be a disastrous move. And wizards might check how Wall comes back before moving Beal.

The targets are FVV, Harris and a Stretch 4. There are more options for PFs like Bertans, Grant, Wood, Gallo, Mook, and Melo. They are top targets because they are UFA.

I would like to check the situation of the RFA players like Malik, Juancho, and Bogdan. Hield must be a trade target if KIngs want to get rid of him.

The fallback options would be Dragic, Augustin, Justin, Clarkson, Furkan,

[-YogiBiz-]

So it's mutually agreed. Top targets this offseason are FVV and Joe Harris. Right?

Ingram, Grant, FVV, Harris, Hield, Beal...

Realistically speaking. Knicks fans are going to be sorely disappointed when Brandon Ingram would gladly be the best Robin in the league to Zion's Batman.

Beal would cost the farm. I am pretty sure he wants to stay in Washington, or at least he's been saying that's what he wants.

Buddy is gonna cost a pretty penny as well.

[dakomish23]

Hayes
Hield
RJ (maybe)
Lauri
Mitch

[knickstape4ever]

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I’d just cut SAC out and take OPJ & Lauri if this was realistic. I don’t think it is.

I'll take Hield for free (Randle for Hield straight up), but wouldnt give up any assets for him. w/ 4yrs/~88M left on his deal, I'd rather make an offer for 1 of the RFA's: Beasley or Bogdanovic or UFA Joe Harris

[-YogiBiz-]

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I’d just cut SAC out and take OPJ & Lauri if this was realistic. I don’t think it is.

I'll take Hield for free (Randle for Hield straight up), but wouldnt give up any assets for him. w/ 4yrs/~88M left on his deal, I'd rather make an offer for 1 of the RFA's: Beasley or Bogdanovic or UFA Joe Harris

Whoa, whoa, keep Knox in that trade. At least they can say they got a young player back.

(And we can get rid of Knox, win-sortawin?)

[dakomish23]

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I’d just cut SAC out and take OPJ & Lauri if this was realistic. I don’t think it is.

I'll take Hield for free (Randle for Hield straight up), but wouldnt give up any assets for him. w/ 4yrs/~88M left on his deal, I'd rather make an offer for 1 of the RFA's: Beasley or Bogdanovic or UFA Joe Harris

It’s a defending contract

You think those guys are better than him? Will cost around the same to pry them away

[knickstape4ever]

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I’d just cut SAC out and take OPJ & Lauri if this was realistic. I don’t think it is.

I'll take Hield for free (Randle for Hield straight up), but wouldnt give up any assets for him. w/ 4yrs/~88M left on his deal, I'd rather make an offer for 1 of the RFA's: Beasley or Bogdanovic or UFA Joe Harris

Whoa, whoa, keep Knox in that trade. At least they can say they got a young player back.

(And we can get rid of Knox, win-sortawin?)

I'll definitely give them DSJ. maybe Knox too. I really dont like Knox and would like to acquire more picks to replace him

[knickstape4ever]

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I’d just cut SAC out and take OPJ & Lauri if this was realistic. I don’t think it is.

I'll take Hield for free (Randle for Hield straight up), but wouldnt give up any assets for him. w/ 4yrs/~88M left on his deal, I'd rather make an offer for 1 of the RFA's: Beasley or Bogdanovic or UFA Joe Harris

It’s a defending contract

You think those guys are better than him? Will cost around the same to pry them away

Hield contract is still an avg of around 22M per year; it's considered an overpay. It'll cost less to get Beasley (I saw Bobby Marks project he gets 3yr/39M) and signing him doesnt require giving up compensation. he's restricted, so they would just have to make a big enough offer (but we're comparing to Hield who makes ~22M per yr)

plus, Beasley is a better defender than Hield, not as good a shooter, but still very good, and he's younger

[dakomish23]

I'll take Hield for free (Randle for Hield straight up), but wouldnt give up any assets for him. w/ 4yrs/~88M left on his deal, I'd rather make an offer for 1 of the RFA's: Beasley or Bogdanovic or UFA Joe Harris

It’s a defending contract

You think those guys are better than him? Will cost around the same to pry them away

Hield contract is still an avg of around 22M per year; it's considered an overpay. It'll cost less to get Beasley (I saw Bobby Marks project he gets 3yr/39M) and signing him doesnt require giving up compensation. he's restricted, so they would just have to make a big enough offer (but we're comparing to Hield who makes ~22M per yr)

plus, Beasley is a better defender than Hield, not as good a shooter, but still very good, and he's younger

Considered an overpay by who? That’s a fair value contract, especially b/c it declined.

Beasley is not a big upgrade on defense. He’s mediocre on that end. He’s younger. Beasley isn’t getting 13. More likely 4/65.

[knickstape4ever]

It’s a defending contract

You think those guys are better than him? Will cost around the same to pry them away

Hield contract is still an avg of around 22M per year; it's considered an overpay. It'll cost less to get Beasley (I saw Bobby Marks project he gets 3yr/39M) and signing him doesnt require giving up compensation. he's restricted, so they would just have to make a big enough offer (but we're comparing to Hield who makes ~22M per yr)

plus, Beasley is a better defender than Hield, not as good a shooter, but still very good, and he's younger

Considered an overpay by who? That’s a fair value contract, especially b/c it declined.

Beasley is not a big upgrade on defense. He’s mediocre on that end. He’s younger. Beasley isn’t getting 13. More likely 4/65.

A league executive told The Bee the Kings erred in overpaying Hield, Harrison Barnes and other players over the past few years. Hield will be paid $24.4 million next season in the first year of his new deal. Barnes was paid $24.1 million this season in the first year of his contract.

“You can’t pay everybody $25 million,” the executive said.

The executive believes the Kings will try to trade Hield, but he said that might not be easy. His ball-handling issues and defensive struggles are no secret around the league.

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/article245012050.html

I'd rather give Beasley 4/65 then trading assets to get Hield at 4/88.

Beasley might be an avg. defender, but Hield is a bad defender

[spree2kawhi]

Hield contract is still an avg of around 22M per year; it's considered an overpay. It'll cost less to get Beasley (I saw Bobby Marks project he gets 3yr/39M) and signing him doesnt require giving up compensation. he's restricted, so they would just have to make a big enough offer (but we're comparing to Hield who makes ~22M per yr)

plus, Beasley is a better defender than Hield, not as good a shooter, but still very good, and he's younger

Considered an overpay by who? That’s a fair value contract, especially b/c it declined.

Beasley is not a big upgrade on defense. He’s mediocre on that end. He’s younger. Beasley isn’t getting 13. More likely 4/65.

A league executive told The Bee the Kings erred in overpaying Hield, Harrison Barnes and other players over the past few years. Hield will be paid $24.4 million next season in the first year of his new deal. Barnes was paid $24.1 million this season in the first year of his contract.

“You can’t pay everybody $25 million,” the executive said.

The executive believes the Kings will try to trade Hield, but he said that might not be easy. His ball-handling issues and defensive struggles are no secret around the league.

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/article245012050.html

I'd rather give Beasley 4/65 then trading assets to get Hield at 4/88.

Beasley might be an avg. defender, but Hield is a bad defender

I'd want to acquire either player.

[thebuzzardman]

Hield contract is still an avg of around 22M per year; it's considered an overpay. It'll cost less to get Beasley (I saw Bobby Marks project he gets 3yr/39M) and signing him doesnt require giving up compensation. he's restricted, so they would just have to make a big enough offer (but we're comparing to Hield who makes ~22M per yr)

plus, Beasley is a better defender than Hield, not as good a shooter, but still very good, and he's younger

Considered an overpay by who? That’s a fair value contract, especially b/c it declined.

Beasley is not a big upgrade on defense. He’s mediocre on that end. He’s younger. Beasley isn’t getting 13. More likely 4/65.

A league executive told The Bee the Kings erred in overpaying Hield, Harrison Barnes and other players over the past few years. Hield will be paid $24.4 million next season in the first year of his new deal. Barnes was paid $24.1 million this season in the first year of his contract.

“You can’t pay everybody $25 million,” the executive said.

The executive believes the Kings will try to trade Hield, but he said that might not be easy. His ball-handling issues and defensive struggles are no secret around the league.

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/article245012050.html

I'd rather give Beasley 4/65 then trading assets to get Hield at 4/88.

Beasley might be an avg. defender, but Hield is a bad defender

I think if this take is true on Heild, then the trade should be straight up, as the Knicks give the Kings salary relief. If they consider Heild the slightly more useful player, it's still a fair deal as they get 3 years of salary relief.

Also, I'd approve of it as Heild sounds like a player I'd wind up disliking and I'll need a player to take Randle's slot as somewhat overpaid guy the Knicks are stuck with, after the next season.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I want FVV regardless of who we draft since he can function as a 1 or 2, would give us 3 ball handlers with Fred being able to spot up as well.

[boogeydown]

How much would a guy like Danilo Gallinari cost in free agency? He could help with spacing and shooting the 3 ball.

[dakomish23]

Hield contract is still an avg of around 22M per year; it's considered an overpay. It'll cost less to get Beasley (I saw Bobby Marks project he gets 3yr/39M) and signing him doesnt require giving up compensation. he's restricted, so they would just have to make a big enough offer (but we're comparing to Hield who makes ~22M per yr)

plus, Beasley is a better defender than Hield, not as good a shooter, but still very good, and he's younger

Considered an overpay by who? That’s a fair value contract, especially b/c it declined.

Beasley is not a big upgrade on defense. He’s mediocre on that end. He’s younger. Beasley isn’t getting 13. More likely 4/65.

A league executive told The Bee the Kings erred in overpaying Hield, Harrison Barnes and other players over the past few years. Hield will be paid $24.4 million next season in the first year of his new deal. Barnes was paid $24.1 million this season in the first year of his contract.

“You can’t pay everybody $25 million,” the executive said.

The executive believes the Kings will try to trade Hield, but he said that might not be easy. His ball-handling issues and defensive struggles are no secret around the league.

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/article245012050.html

I'd rather give Beasley 4/65 then trading assets to get Hield at 4/88.

Beasley might be an avg. defender, but Hield is a bad defender

Sounds like that executive should do his homework since Hield is only getting paid near 25 for one year and drop down to a little under 19 at the end.

https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2020/03/29/minnesota-timberwolves-sign-malik-beasley/

The downside to Beasley is that he is a complete negative on defense. He struggles to stay with his man, doesn’t force turnovers, and lacks the size to switch. This team, however, hasn’t seemed to care about defense.

He turned down 3 for 30. He produced offensively to close the season. He’s going to get paid.

We’ll see who’s the better player once Hield gets out of SAC and is starting