2020 NBA Draft prospects

[Klomp]

Wasserman, the Bleacher Report draft analyst, had an article on Wiseman today.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2885662-addressing-the-biggest-questions-about-nba-draft-prospect-james-wiseman

One thing to note, only 3 of Wiseman’s FGs this year were not from a layup/dunk caused by a teammates pass or from a putback. He’s a rim running finisher, not a guy you expect to make an offensive play for your team. Note he also only had one assist.

The other thing Wasserman goes into is that although he’s a definite shot blocker, he may not be a plus on defense (similar to Whiteside) because of lack of defensive instincts/abilities in all other defensive areas.

Take it for what it’s worth. While Wasserman doesn’t seem to be a fan, he did note that some evaluators do think he’s a great talent while others think he’s very average.

That's how he was used in Memphis' system; doesn't mean that's what he is at a player.

How many 3-pointers did Towns make at Kentucky? Not a guy you expect to be roaming around the perimeter chucking eight 3-pointers a game.

[Slim Tubby]

Passing on Wiseman would be a horrific decision. Edwards showed even less passion and emotion than Wiggins did in college and I want nothing to do with the Ball Family Circus.

If ATL badly wants the home school kid in Edwards to pair with Young, offer #1 & #17 for Collins and #6. Grab Avdija or Toppin at #6 and Oturu at #33 and you have yourself one hell of a young core.

Draft Wiseman or move to Seattle!


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[D1SGRUNTL3D]

Seriously though what’s the difference between Wiseman and Davis coming out

I think Davis had a more filled out frame, and obviously a full season at Kentucky.

[KGdaBom]

Passing on Wiseman would be a horrific decision. Edwards showed even less passion and emotion than Wiggins did in college and I want nothing to do with the Ball Family Circus.

If ATL badly wants the home school kid in Edwards to pair with Young, offer #1 & #17 for Collins and #6. Grab Avdija or Toppin at #6 and Oturu at #33 and you have yourself one hell of a young core.

Draft Wiseman or move to Seattle!


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Stop being all wishy washy and tell us how you really feel.

[Norseman79]

I know we can continue to beat dead horses regarding Edwards, Ball, and Wiseman, but for a change up, I'd like to get a consensus view on Jaden McDaniels as a SF. He will probably be available at 17. I know he isn't perfect but it's the 17th pick, and he screams potential steal to me. Again, going back and watching game tape, I am thinking he is who I want with that pick. Wiseman and McDaniels. Will start digging on 33 pick now

I'd trade 17 for Moritz Wagner before drafting McDaniels.

I'd trade 17 for Jayson Tatum before Moritz Wagner. You brought your idea about Wagner up,people spoke on it. Going after other ideas for using the 17 on a player instead of a trade makes sense as this is the prospect thread, not trade thread. Keep your docs in the right file....sheesh..

[KGdaBom]

I know we can continue to beat dead horses regarding Edwards, Ball, and Wiseman, but for a change up, I'd like to get a consensus view on Jaden McDaniels as a SF. He will probably be available at 17. I know he isn't perfect but it's the 17th pick, and he screams potential steal to me. Again, going back and watching game tape, I am thinking he is who I want with that pick. Wiseman and McDaniels. Will start digging on 33 pick now

I'd trade 17 for Moritz Wagner before drafting McDaniels.

I'd trade 17 for Jayson Tatum before Moritz Wagner. You brought your idea about Wagner up,people spoke on it. Going after other ideas for using the 17 on a player instead of a trade makes sense as this is the prospect thread, not trade thread. Keep your docs in the right file....sheesh..

Did you see my
I was just having some fun with it.
The idea was not mine at all. I just responded that I really liked the idea that somebody else had. I will never again mention a trade in the prospects thread. Nah I probably will.

[Slim Tubby]

Passing on Wiseman would be a horrific decision. Edwards showed even less passion and emotion than Wiggins did in college and I want nothing to do with the Ball Family Circus.

If ATL badly wants the home school kid in Edwards to pair with Young, offer #1 & #17 for Collins and #6. Grab Avdija or Toppin at #6 and Oturu at #33 and you have yourself one hell of a young core.

Draft Wiseman or move to Seattle!


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Stop being all wishy washy and tell us how you really feel.

I’m kind of an “all in, all out” type of guy!

Wiseman doesn’t possess elite lateral quickness but he is still crazy athletic and would really bolster our interior defense which is badly needed. Players like Gobert and Capela have their share of weaknesses but still manage to make a great impact on the game.


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[Norseman79]

Yes you probably will...as will many, many others...such is life

[Domejandro]

If you read my post history I’m a 1-3-1 truther and I believe in optimizing your best player. I think Wiseman is enough of a talent to break from your system and plan. I’d go so far to say that if he played for a whole season he’d be thought of like a Zion. He’s just a huge problem on both ends of the floor. High floor and projectable high ceiling.

I think he’s basically Rudy Gobert floor and Anthony Davis ceiling.

His floor is WAY lower than Rudy Gobert.

[Domejandro]

First time poster. I like different prospects for different things. The creativity of the offense with Ball would be fun to watch, Russell is also really good off the ball. He's better with the ball in his hands but as we saw with Jmac he can play off the ball as well. They could make the fit work. Ball has good touch on the floaters which leads me to believe he can actually shoot he just needs to be consistent in his footwork on his jump shot. The defense is definitely concerning but he has good instincts with playing the passing lanes and getting weak side blocks, actually moves his feet pretty well, however, he disengages a lot and that's problematic.
Edwards has potential elite athleticism. He has poor shot selection but with him being a 3rd or 4th option maybe he'll take smarter shots. wishful thinking on my part possibly. His shooting form isn't bad at all just has to take better shots. He's a good cutter and could add another dynamic to this offense with his ability to get to the rim and finish. Has all the athletic tools to be a good defender it's just a mindset and wanting to do it and give effort.
Wiseman would immediately help the Wolves rebounding issues, while also providing potentially elite rim-protecting skills. He's a good rim runner and with Kat's ability to shoot should give Wiseman plenty of space in the post. For as big as he is though he lacks finishing strength through contact. and he's slow-footed so zero ability to guard in space at the moment.
There's good and bad with each prospect, personally, my favorite as of now is Deni Avdija but as far as the "consensus" top 3 for the wolves I might lean slightly towards Edwards for now.

Nice to hear from you. Wiseman is NOT slow footed. Other than that good points.

He actually does have lateral issues in space, but the hope is that it is related to mechanics.

[Neeva]

I honestly like that Edwards shows he wants to be in Minnesota on his instagram stories every day. Meanwhile crickets from Wiseman and Ball.

[Howard Cosell]

Yep. In the 72 hours I’ve gone from Wiseman to Edwards.
Swing for the fences. Edwards has a chance to be the turning point of the franchise.

[Mattya]

If you read my post history I’m a 1-3-1 truther and I believe in optimizing your best player. I think Wiseman is enough of a talent to break from your system and plan. I’d go so far to say that if he played for a whole season he’d be thought of like a Zion. He’s just a huge problem on both ends of the floor. High floor and projectable high ceiling.

I think he’s basically Rudy Gobert floor and Anthony Davis ceiling.

His floor is WAY lower than Rudy Gobert.

His floOr is probably McGee just not as many Shaqtin a fool moments and a jumper a team could potentially develop.

[packforfreedom]

I quick checked Edwards instagram and he lets his dog sleep in his bed, so he must be a good person.

[KGdaBom]

Yep. In the 72 hours I’ve gone from Wiseman to Edwards.
Swing for the fences. Edwards has a chance to be the turning point of the franchise.

Wiseman has every bit as much chance to be that turning point.

[TheProdigy]

Wiseman played well, no doubt. But his best game was against South Carolina State (28pts/11rebs/3blks/1ast), a team that was 11-18, even though playing most of their games against lower levels. They played no one taller than 6’7”/6’8” during most of the game.

I watched the UIC games last night (17/9/3/0). Wiseman certainly played well. UIC was just overmatched by the size/athleticism of Memphis in general, they won by about 50, but Wiseman didn’t show much offensively besides ability to dunk. He was a defensive/rebounding presence and had one nice turnaround jumper. UIC was again not great even playing against teams in their own league (18-17).

The game people point to is Oregon, as Oregon was a good team. Wiseman finished 14/12 with 1 block and no assists in a loss. Good? Yes. Dominant? No. I cannot find the full game online so I’ve only seen highlights. Can’t really tell much from highlights. Looks like most of Wiseman’s points came off putbacks and finishing passes with dunks.

His resume would be the equivalent of Edwards deciding to sit the rest of the season after scoring 33 in the second half against Michigan State, except Michigan State is a good team. I really hope we can get the top three in for workouts. Ball and Wiseman just have too little on film to know what can really do.

He also only played 22 minutes in the Oregon game. Prorate that over 30 minutes and he's at about 19 points and 16 rebounds. That's a very productive game for a freshman against a good team.

[KGdaBom]

Wiseman played well, no doubt. But his best game was against South Carolina State (28pts/11rebs/3blks/1ast), a team that was 11-18, even though playing most of their games against lower levels. They played no one taller than 6’7”/6’8” during most of the game.

I watched the UIC games last night (17/9/3/0). Wiseman certainly played well. UIC was just overmatched by the size/athleticism of Memphis in general, they won by about 50, but Wiseman didn’t show much offensively besides ability to dunk. He was a defensive/rebounding presence and had one nice turnaround jumper. UIC was again not great even playing against teams in their own league (18-17).

The game people point to is Oregon, as Oregon was a good team. Wiseman finished 14/12 with 1 block and no assists in a loss. Good? Yes. Dominant? No. I cannot find the full game online so I’ve only seen highlights. Can’t really tell much from highlights. Looks like most of Wiseman’s points came off putbacks and finishing passes with dunks.

His resume would be the equivalent of Edwards deciding to sit the rest of the season after scoring 33 in the second half against Michigan State, except Michigan State is a good team. I really hope we can get the top three in for workouts. Ball and Wiseman just have too little on film to know what can really do.

He also only played 22 minutes in the Oregon game. Prorate that over 30 minutes and he's at about 19 points and 16 rebounds. That's a very productive game for a freshman against a good team.

Great point.

[TwolvesFanRome]

For what it is worth, can someone tell me best and worst comparison of

Wiseman
Edwards
Ball
Toppin
Avdija

I would appreciate it guys...I prefer your own opinion than website comparison...

[KGdaBom]

For what it is worth, can someone tell me best and worst comparison of

Wiseman
Edwards
Ball
Toppin
Avdija

I would appreciate it guys...I prefer your own opinion than website comparison...

I'll go for the best ones. In order
A bigger jermaine O'Neal
Dwyane Wade
Lonzo Ball
?? Let me think
Paul George

[KGdaBom]

NBA Draft.net gave Sean Marion and Kenyon Martin as the best comps for Toppin. I don't think either of those is close at all. I'm really having a hard time coming up with his comp.