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Psubs wrote:Syd-TK3 wrote:Psubs wrote:
Orlando could take him at #15.
He could fall to Philly at #21.
I basically have him locked in with Philly
Maybe they like Jamius Ramsey who also shot over 40% from 3, though his FT shooting is a concern.
Also Kira Lewis and Hampton could be there for them at #21.
YelloC wrote:Everything I’ve read about Grant Riller has me intrigued.
It seems like the underdog type that the Raptors keep picking.
He’s kinda giving me Jamal Murray/Dame vibes and could overachieve under the Raps system and in today’s NBA.
His athleticism isn’t great but that seems less important these days when compared to shot creation ability.
Dalek wrote:YelloC wrote:Everything I’ve read about Grant Riller has me intrigued.
It seems like the underdog type that the Raptors keep picking.
He’s kinda giving me Jamal Murray/Dame vibes and could overachieve under the Raps system and in today’s NBA.
His athleticism isn’t great but that seems less important these days when compared to shot creation ability.
Draft guys just love him and on film I think he shows a very unique skill-set as a scorer being able to create great separation off the dribble and is very crafty around the hoop being able to finish at a high level at the rim. I think he obviously patterns his game after Lillard but he has not been a volume three point scorer until only this year. So his track record is not that long.
Being buried on a Mid-Major can lead people to underrate a player like him. They are not one and done types, and I think he has shown real growth over his career.
He would fit Toronto's culture, but the main thing I have against drafting him is that he spent his whole basketball career in Florida. He is from the Orlando area, I think. He went from high school to college staying in state to be close to family and friends. Not sure how this guy will adapt to being in a new country and cold weather.
Psubs wrote:Dalek wrote:YelloC wrote:Everything I’ve read about Grant Riller has me intrigued.
It seems like the underdog type that the Raptors keep picking.
He’s kinda giving me Jamal Murray/Dame vibes and could overachieve under the Raps system and in today’s NBA.
His athleticism isn’t great but that seems less important these days when compared to shot creation ability.
Draft guys just love him and on film I think he shows a very unique skill-set as a scorer being able to create great separation off the dribble and is very crafty around the hoop being able to finish at a high level at the rim. I think he obviously patterns his game after Lillard but he has not been a volume three point scorer until only this year. So his track record is not that long.
Being buried on a Mid-Major can lead people to underrate a player like him. They are not one and done types, and I think he has shown real growth over his career.
He would fit Toronto's culture, but the main thing I have against drafting him is that he spent his whole basketball career in Florida. He is from the Orlando area, I think. He went from high school to college staying in state to be close to family and friends. Not sure how this guy will adapt to being in a new country and cold weather.
Kawhi factor. But College of Charleston is in South Carolina. I guess close to home.
So he'll get picked up by his home town Orlando Magic at #45?
"Orlando" spans the length of his left forearm in large script letters which are enveloped by several homages to the place he calls home. The road signage for Interstate 4 (I-4) is also depicted, as well as the logo for his all-time favorite team: the Orlando Magic. The scene is surrounded by Florida oranges, a nod to Orange County, and completed by his native area code: 407.
Dalek wrote:Psubs wrote:Dalek wrote:
Draft guys just love him and on film I think he shows a very unique skill-set as a scorer being able to create great separation off the dribble and is very crafty around the hoop being able to finish at a high level at the rim. I think he obviously patterns his game after Lillard but he has not been a volume three point scorer until only this year. So his track record is not that long.
Being buried on a Mid-Major can lead people to underrate a player like him. They are not one and done types, and I think he has shown real growth over his career.
He would fit Toronto's culture, but the main thing I have against drafting him is that he spent his whole basketball career in Florida. He is from the Orlando area, I think. He went from high school to college staying in state to be close to family and friends. Not sure how this guy will adapt to being in a new country and cold weather.
Kawhi factor. But College of Charleston is in South Carolina. I guess close to home.
So he'll get picked up by his home town Orlando Magic at #45?
You are right about his college which is fairly close to Florida. I picked up this funny tidbit about Riller:"Orlando" spans the length of his left forearm in large script letters which are enveloped by several homages to the place he calls home. The road signage for Interstate 4 (I-4) is also depicted, as well as the logo for his all-time favorite team: the Orlando Magic. The scene is surrounded by Florida oranges, a nod to Orange County, and completed by his native area code: 407.
https://cofcsports.com/news/2019/11/23/mens-basketball-theres-no-place-like-home-and-family-for-riller.aspx
Maybe the Magic might even consider him at 15. The success of a guy like VanVleet could see the Magic be open to taking him in the late lottery. I definitely can't see him being passed up at 45.
mademan wrote:This is probably one of the most interesting drafts. I legit have no idea where most of these guys go. A guy like Vassell can be a top 10 pick or drop to early 20's where we can make a play for him. A guy like Maledon or Lewis Jr the same. McDaniels might go in the lottery or fall to the second round.
HeadtopChunes wrote:
At a glance Dotson is a warty upperclassmen who seems like he makes sense as a fringe first rounder, but if we really dig into him he is littered with reasons for optimism.
Expectations need to be tempered, because he still is a little guy who likely is not a floor general or high volume 3 point shooter. But if things develop well for him, he has a decent upside tail which is more than can be said for most prospects in the draft.
And even if things don’t develop perfectly, he can have a career as a helpful role player on winning teams. The benefit to his mold is that if he is not meant to be an offensive hub, he pairs well as a secondary creator next to a number of star wings: Luka, Giannis, LeBron, Simmons, Harden, Kawhi. He doesn’t need to hit his upside to be a useful piece on a contending team.
Even though Dotson isn’t a lottery pick on paper, it is easy to see him providing value for a lottery pick longterm. It’s difficult to say exactly where to place him, but he has potential to be anywhere from a nice role player pickup to monster value in late round 1 or early round 2.
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Man, I reallyyy want Tillman. Nice interview with Mike Schmitz.
Dalek wrote:Just diving a bit more into Ty-Shon Alexander and I think he really fits the Raptors. Great defender, makes heady plays off the dribble, and can shoot well. Not sure if many project him as a first rounder, but the more I watch of him the more I see the talent which reminds me of Terence Davis.
Wasserman put together this nice match-up video of Alexander and Myles Powell.
Psubs wrote:Dalek wrote:Just diving a bit more into Ty-Shon Alexander and I think he really fits the Raptors. Great defender, makes heady plays off the dribble, and can shoot well. Not sure if many project him as a first rounder, but the more I watch of him the more I see the talent which reminds me of Terence Davis.
Wasserman put together this nice match-up video of Alexander and Myles Powell.
Good option if he drops to #59. Though don't really need more guards.
Dalek wrote:Psubs wrote:Dalek wrote:Just diving a bit more into Ty-Shon Alexander and I think he really fits the Raptors. Great defender, makes heady plays off the dribble, and can shoot well. Not sure if many project him as a first rounder, but the more I watch of him the more I see the talent which reminds me of Terence Davis.
Wasserman put together this nice match-up video of Alexander and Myles Powell.
Good option if he drops to #59. Though don't really need more guards.
I actually like him at 29. He has no obvious holes in his game and is an immediate contributor who has shown growth each year (81 made threes on nearly 40% last year).
Psubs wrote:Dalek wrote:Just diving a bit more into Ty-Shon Alexander and I think he really fits the Raptors. Great defender, makes heady plays off the dribble, and can shoot well. Not sure if many project him as a first rounder, but the more I watch of him the more I see the talent which reminds me of Terence Davis.
Wasserman put together this nice match-up video of Alexander and Myles Powell.
Good option if he drops to #59. Though don't really need more guards.
Psubs wrote:Is he going to be better than Terence Davis or Paul Watson? Maybe defensively. He doesn't have TD's explosiveness or ability (thanks to football) to take on contact and finish.
Just saying might be able to pickup someone similar at #59 or undrafted. Maybe 1 of Jay Scrubb, Karim Mane, Nate Hinton, or Skyler Mays are still there at #59. I can't definitively say that Tyshon is going to be better than those 4.
“[Raptors president] Masai [Ujiri] and [general manager] Bobby [Webster] and [assistant GM] Dan Tolzman, they look at the draft a different way. We like to target players that we want, that we like and whether or not draft boards say this guy is here, there or anywhere, we try to focus on finding the guys in the draft that we like and then targeting them and trying to get them,” said Engelbrecht.
“…For us, it’s targeting people we think can help us and that we like from a playing standpoint, from a background standpoint, from a grit and toughness standpoint. We try to find players that we like and then we can try to acquire them. I think it’s real simple. A lot of times you get sort of caught up in pick numbers and that sort of thing and we try to stay away from that.”
Syd-TK3 wrote:Psubs wrote:Dalek wrote:Just diving a bit more into Ty-Shon Alexander and I think he really fits the Raptors. Great defender, makes heady plays off the dribble, and can shoot well. Not sure if many project him as a first rounder, but the more I watch of him the more I see the talent which reminds me of Terence Davis.
Wasserman put together this nice match-up video of Alexander and Myles Powell.
Good option if he drops to #59. Though don't really need more guards.
Said before he was a guy I was looking at for 59 but he's starting to get noticed so will probably be gone in the 30/40s
If he could play point guard full time he'd be worthy of a 1st round pick imo