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Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius

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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#81 » by method » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:15 am

This whole Randle situation reminds me of the time everyone wanted to get rid of Zach Randolph. Just to watch him have a successful career with Memphis all them years,
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#82 » by BowlRips » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:20 am

method wrote:This whole Randle situation reminds me of the time everyone wanted to get rid of Zach Randolph. Just to watch him have a successful career with Memphis all them years,


No one is saying there’s not a player in Randle that could benefit his team. He’s 25 years old, just entering prime and can score the ball.

But - how could you look at the current construction of the team and think he’s be the right fit? Our future depends RJ and Mitch panning out and Randle is a poor fit for a litany of reasons.

If you could find any player who would be a better fit on a similar contract, it’s worth spinning off.
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#83 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:43 am

method wrote:This whole Randle situation reminds me of the time everyone wanted to get rid of Zach Randolph. Just to watch him have a successful career with Memphis all them years,


And then Harrison Barnes bodied up Randolph in the post, Curry started the three point revolution, and then the Grizzlies never got anywhere again.
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#84 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:46 am

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method wrote:This whole Randle situation reminds me of the time everyone wanted to get rid of Zach Randolph. Just to watch him have a successful career with Memphis all them years,


No one is saying there’s not a player in Randle that could benefit his team. He’s 25 years old, just entering prime and can score the ball.

But - how could you look at the current construction of the team and think he’s be the right fit? Our future depends RJ and Mitch panning out and Randle is a poor fit for a litany of reasons.

If you could find any player who would be a better fit on a similar contract, it’s worth spinning off.


Nah. I am saying that. He is not going to benefit this team unless he is a 7th or 8th man, willing to take a under 8 million dollar a year contract. 7th or 8th might even be too nice. The Celtics bench Enes Kanter when they need to.
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#85 » by method » Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:50 am

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method wrote:This whole Randle situation reminds me of the time everyone wanted to get rid of Zach Randolph. Just to watch him have a successful career with Memphis all them years,


No one is saying there’s not a player in Randle that could benefit his team. He’s 25 years old, just entering prime and can score the ball.

But - how could you look at the current construction of the team and think he’s be the right fit? Our future depends RJ and Mitch panning out and Randle is a poor fit for a litany of reasons.

If you could find any player who would be a better fit on a similar contract, it’s worth spinning off.
Oh I agree he doesn't fit this team, Unless maybe if he comes off the bench.I'm just saying I can't help but see if he is traded to the right situation Like Zach he will thrive. Just like Zach in Memphis...having most Knick fans pissed we didn't keep him. Zach ended up having better years then Amare the player we basically get rid of him for,
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#86 » by Jeffrey » Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:51 am

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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#87 » by Richard4444 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:30 am

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Sark wrote:That cap space means nothing if we don't use it right. What they should do is absorb bad contracts for future assets, like we were supposed to last year. Instead they will probably try to get new mercenaries to fight for the 10th seed again.


Can you do both?
Can you get Conley and a pick for Randle? Save Utah $16mil this year and they get a rotational player?



I mean, are they actually looking to dump Conley, or are you just pulling that out of your ass?


Conley is playing really well in the bubble. 20/5 at 49/46/100.
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#88 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:08 am

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method wrote:This whole Randle situation reminds me of the time everyone wanted to get rid of Zach Randolph. Just to watch him have a successful career with Memphis all them years,


No one is saying there’s not a player in Randle that could benefit his team. He’s 25 years old, just entering prime and can score the ball.

But - how could you look at the current construction of the team and think he’s be the right fit? Our future depends RJ and Mitch panning out and Randle is a poor fit for a litany of reasons.

If you could find any player who would be a better fit on a similar contract, it’s worth spinning off.
Oh I agree he doesn't fit this team, Unless maybe if he comes off the bench.I'm just saying I can't help but see if he is traded to the right situation Like Zach he will thrive. Just like Zach in Memphis...having most Knick fans pissed we didn't keep him. Zach ended up having better years then Amare the player we basically get rid of him for,


Were we really that pissed? I don't remember any outrage about that. We had so many players back then to get pissed about...Zach was far down the list.

If you think he's better off the bench, then we got nothing to be pissed about. People in this forum get pissed over the likes of THJ or Burke lol... we should be pissed about missing out on Steph, Luka, Mitchell, SGA, etc. Once we stop missing out on players of that caliber, then none of us are gonna give two ****s about Randle or THJ.
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#89 » by Sark » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:14 am

Richard4444 wrote:
Sark wrote:
BowlRips wrote:
Can you do both?
Can you get Conley and a pick for Randle? Save Utah $16mil this year and they get a rotational player?



I mean, are they actually looking to dump Conley, or are you just pulling that out of your ass?


Conley is playing really well in the bubble. 20/5 at 49/46/100.



Not only that, but he only has 1 year left on his contract. Unlikely they are going to give up picks to dump him.
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#90 » by Reign23 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:57 am

moving him is my offeason priority #1. he is such a bad fit, that i see almost no room for improvement for RJ/Mitch if he is on the floor.
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#91 » by matchman » Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:19 am

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Jose7 wrote:I dont think any of us can tolerate watching this clown play for another year.


you're wrong. some knick fans on this forum like julius randle. i wouldn't frame difference of opinion this way. player sentiment like this occurs on a spectrum.

if you want to focus on potential trade partners, i'd leave it at that. the phrasing in this OP is really asking for unnecessary smoke.


well......one does


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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#92 » by Besart19 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:02 pm

Randle, Barrett, Smith, our top pick and another two future pick for Mitchell

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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#93 » by br7knicks » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:14 pm

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That is one of the few deals that could make sense and Jordan is kinda clueless. It would be nice to get pick #32 from them too.

Otherwise, just make Randle backup C behind Mitch. Think he can be ok in that role.


I thought this too, but Batum is on his last year like Randle, no?

What's in it for Charlotte? Not cap relief.


they would save a couple million on the cap...but they would be replacing Batum who really plays no role on that team for randle who can produce. They would have to like Randle...maybe MJ/kupchak are dumb enough to think Randle can help?


yeah, jordan isn't known for being good with players to bring in.

i think the draw for getting julius is pretty much what harris said. having rozier and randle is a "good" charlotte core.

graham
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bridges
randle
zeller

is something jordan would be happy with - i'd hate it if the knicks did this, but jordan isn't known for bringing in the right players.
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#94 » by br7knicks » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:16 pm

Stannis wrote:Maybe next year. But right now, you will need to add a pick to dump Randle. Probably two picks if you want to dumb Knox as well.


yes, knox is a net negative right now. but can't it be pushed that he's still on a rookie contract and can be expiring soon?
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#95 » by Worst_to_First » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:25 pm

If Kings plan on keeping Luke Walton then they would be a possibility given that he has a good relationship with Julius. He could be good insurance or play alongside an injury prone Bagley.

We are going to have to get Buddy Hield off their books though which would reduce our cap space in 2021 for those with fantasies of us attracting a marquee FA.
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#96 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:43 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
I thought this too, but Batum is on his last year like Randle, no?

What's in it for Charlotte? Not cap relief.


they would save a couple million on the cap...but they would be replacing Batum who really plays no role on that team for randle who can produce. They would have to like Randle...maybe MJ/kupchak are dumb enough to think Randle can help?


yeah, jordan isn't known for being good with players to bring in.

i think the draw for getting julius is pretty much what harris said. having rozier and randle is a "good" charlotte core.

graham
rozier
bridges
randle
zeller

is something jordan would be happy with - i'd hate it if the knicks did this, but jordan isn't known for bringing in the right players.


Damn it worries me when we have to rely on the stupidity of other teams
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#97 » by Richard4444 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:21 pm

Worst_to_First wrote:If Kings plan on keeping Luke Walton then they would be a possibility given that he has a good relationship with Julius. He could be good insurance or play alongside an injury prone Bagley.

We are going to have to get Buddy Hield off their books though which would reduce our cap space in 2021 for those with fantasies of us attracting a marquee FA.


Which marquee FA?

Does someone hope we bring Giannis, AD, LeBron, PG13 or Leonard in 2021?

Does someone consider Oladipo (after injury), Jrue Holiday, DeRozan, or Hayward as marquee FA?

Does someone think we need centers like Gobert, Drummond or Adams?

Does someone think Top RFA agents like Tatum, Donovan, Fox and Adebayo will refuse to re-sign for the max?

Does someone think can we get RFA agents like Isaac, Lauri and Collins without trade assets or overpay?
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#98 » by Strick » Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:21 pm

mpharris36 wrote:Randle and DSJ for Batum and a draft pick

speak it into existence!

Underrated aspect of this would be the Batum / Frank connection. Could be good to help him take that next step
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#99 » by Synciere » Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:31 pm

method wrote:This whole Randle situation reminds me of the time everyone wanted to get rid of Zach Randolph. Just to watch him have a successful career with Memphis all them years,


Reminds me of us giving up a pick for Jared Jeffries in order to get a second max and then not needing the second max.

What's the rush to get rid of Julius anyway? Is there a target we won't be able to sign with our third highest cap space in the league during a pandemic with one of the worst free agent classes in years? Really, what's the rush?
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Re: Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius 

Post#100 » by Nazrmohamed » Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:35 pm

Worst_to_First wrote:If Kings plan on keeping Luke Walton then they would be a possibility given that he has a good relationship with Julius. He could be good insurance or play alongside an injury prone Bagley.

We are going to have to get Buddy Hield off their books though which would reduce our cap space in 2021 for those with fantasies of us attracting a marquee FA.


Id be glad to take on Hield in a trade. Idk that I wouldve paid him that money or think he's worth it but if its basically contract for contract, I'd rather get the bad contract that fills a need in the modern nba than keep the bad one that doesnt.

On a side note wtf we're we thinking waiving Trier? I wasn't in love with him but I can't see how he wouldn't have been useful as an addition to a trade. And on a rookie deal too, its just lazy asset mgmnt if you ask me and hints at things to come. You too lazy to work a trade then how do I trust you for bigger moves. Shortsighted

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