2020 Presidential Election (All Serious POVs Welcome)

[Stannis]

Other thread is a little one sided. And you can tell some of our more right leaning members shy away from that thread. Which kind of makes sense it's titled "Democratic Primary Thread".

But one party doesn't decide an election. So I would love to have some serious political discussions with all our members.

Please be rational and serious, and stay away from name calling and baiting. Otherwise, mods are going to end up getting a bunch of reports and end up just locking the thread. Don't be the reason please.

If you tend to get emotional, I suggest you use the ignore feature.

[mpharris36]

Spoiler:

in all seriousness behave everyone!

[iLLmatic860]

I dont really do politics but Joe Biden seems like a wack ass option

But anybody better than Trump

[br7knicks]

Can we skip this election? Like, just go the next four years without one, and let's see what happens. If things get worse, we'll try the president thing again. If lives generally get better, let's remove the position.

That being said, voted for Kanye. Honestly can't be much worse than what's currently available or already in place.

[br7knicks]

I dont really do politics but Joe Biden seems like a wack ass option

But anybody better than Trump

I wanted Tulsi. If Biden had picked her as VP I would jump on board with him. Chances are Biden is going to be mentally incapacitated soon, so Tulsi would've taken over.

[omerome]

I still don't understand how voting for someone who doesn't have a chance to win would help this situation we're in. Biden isn't a great choice, I get it. But I would take vomit over toxic waste any day. Because dealing with vomit is easier than trying to clean up Chernobyl.

[Clyde_Style]

Can we skip this election? Like, just go the next four years without one, and let's see what happens. If things get worse, we'll try the president thing again. If lives generally get better, let's remove the position.

That being said, voted for Kanye. Honestly can't be much worse than what's currently available or already in place.

Jared Kushner has spent everyday on the phone with Kanye.

Kanye is the Trump campaigns attempt to get you to not vote for Biden.

If you really voted for Kanye, not only did you just vote for Trump, you also disrespected the value of your vote.

[ibraheim718]

I dont really do politics but Joe Biden seems like a wack ass option

But anybody better than Trump

I wanted Tulsi. If Biden had picked her as VP I would jump on board with him. Chances are Biden is going to be mentally incapacitated soon, so Tulsi would've taken over.

I love her in more ways than 1. The DNC is already trying to blacklist her. To not have her speak at the convention is a travesty. I'll never support either party.. eff that.

[br7knicks]

I dont really do politics but Joe Biden seems like a wack ass option

But anybody better than Trump

I wanted Tulsi. If Biden had picked her as VP I would jump on board with him. Chances are Biden is going to be mentally incapacitated soon, so Tulsi would've taken over.

I love her in more ways than 1. The DNC is already trying to blacklist her. To not have her speak at the convention is a travesty. I'll never support either party.. eff that.

To completely keep her out and away from the party should be embarrassing for them. She's reasonable and smart enough, for people like me, to have swung people that hate Trump, but don't like biden, to some good change that we need.

[Knick4Real]

Can we skip this election? Like, just go the next four years without one, and let's see what happens. If things get worse, we'll try the president thing again. If lives generally get better, let's remove the position.

That being said, voted for Kanye. Honestly can't be much worse than what's currently available or already in place.

Jared Kushner has spent everyday on the phone with Kanye.

Kanye is the Trump campaigns attempt to get you to not vote for Biden.

If you really voted for Kanye, not only did you just vote for Trump, you also disrespected the value of your vote.

EXACTLY CORRECT!!

Anybody who is so affected that the'd vote for Kanye might as well stay home and avoid the crowds.

[Clyde_Style]

Can we skip this election? Like, just go the next four years without one, and let's see what happens. If things get worse, we'll try the president thing again. If lives generally get better, let's remove the position.

That being said, voted for Kanye. Honestly can't be much worse than what's currently available or already in place.

Jared Kushner has spent everyday on the phone with Kanye.

Kanye is the Trump campaigns attempt to get you to not vote for Biden.

If you really voted for Kanye, not only did you just vote for Trump, you also disrespected the value of your vote.

EXACTLY CORRECT!!

Anybody who is so affected that the'd vote for Kanye might as well stay home and avoid the crowds.

On the actual candidate level, I'm stunned that anyone would vote for Kanye who is mentally ill. I think you have be kind of imbalanced yourself to think that's a cool move to vote for Kanye.

It is indicative of the level of the debased discourse of this country that people don't even know they are voting for Trump when they vote for Kanye which should be blindingly obvious if you bothered to read just a little.

If people are so nihilistic that they equally hate Trump and the Democrats then America is doomed if that has become the new swing voter who will blithely throw away their vote on Kanye West. Truly pathetic

[br7knicks]

Can we skip this election? Like, just go the next four years without one, and let's see what happens. If things get worse, we'll try the president thing again. If lives generally get better, let's remove the position.

That being said, voted for Kanye. Honestly can't be much worse than what's currently available or already in place.

Jared Kushner has spent everyday on the phone with Kanye.

Kanye is the Trump campaigns attempt to get you to not vote for Biden.

If you really voted for Kanye, not only did you just vote for Trump, you also disrespected the value of your vote.

EXACTLY CORRECT!!

Anybody who is so affected that the'd vote for Kanye might as well stay home and avoid the crowds.

Lol neither of you could tell the obvious sarcasm.

Resorting to insults is nice, though, you two

So much for POVs welcome

[Clyde_Style]

Jared Kushner has spent everyday on the phone with Kanye.

Kanye is the Trump campaigns attempt to get you to not vote for Biden.

If you really voted for Kanye, not only did you just vote for Trump, you also disrespected the value of your vote.

EXACTLY CORRECT!!

Anybody who is so affected that the'd vote for Kanye might as well stay home and avoid the crowds.

Lol neither of you could tell the obvious sarcasm.

Resorting to insults is nice, though, you two

Hold up a second there.

If you were being sarcastic, then we were not insulting you because then you didn't vote for Kanye West. And that would mean you may also agree that voting for Kanye is a ludicrous thing to do

So I said IF you had voted for him, that would be pathetic. I wrote:

If you really voted for Kanye, not only did you just vote for Trump, you also disrespected the value of your vote.

I wrote IF. Which gave you the opportunity to tell us you were joking or didn't vote for him

This was your post

Can we skip this election? Like, just go the next four years without one, and let's see what happens. If things get worse, we'll try the president thing again. If lives generally get better, let's remove the position.

That being said, voted for Kanye. Honestly can't be much worse than what's currently available or already in place.

The first paragraph sounds loopy, thus sarcastic, but then you shifted tone by saying you actually voted for Kanye. You didn't say you may as well have.

Anyway, if you didn't, that's good.

I stand by everything I wrote, because anybody who does vote for Kanye West should be humiliated and embarrassed

[Kampuchea]

Bernie write in.

[Gravy]

I wanted Tulsi. If Biden had picked her as VP I would jump on board with him. Chances are Biden is going to be mentally incapacitated soon, so Tulsi would've taken over.

I love her in more ways than 1. The DNC is already trying to blacklist her. To not have her speak at the convention is a travesty. I'll never support either party.. eff that.

To completely keep her out and away from the party should be embarrassing for them. She's reasonable and smart enough, for people like me, to have swung people that hate Trump, but don't like biden, to some good change that we need.

I dont follow politics hardcore so I'm out of the loop. Why does the DNC not like Tulsi?

[Clyde_Style]

I love her in more ways than 1. The DNC is already trying to blacklist her. To not have her speak at the convention is a travesty. I'll never support either party.. eff that.

To completely keep her out and away from the party should be embarrassing for them. She's reasonable and smart enough, for people like me, to have swung people that hate Trump, but don't like biden, to some good change that we need.

I dont follow politics hardcore so I'm out of the loop. Why does the DNC not like Tulsi?

She went to war against her own party. Not in the AOC style I call BS kind of critiques, but actual war.

She has well known political affiliations with Assad and Modi.

Most of her attacks are similar or identical to the same memes generated by Russian troll farms and the Alt Right.

If you want to see how FOS she is, read this:

Gabbard voted "present" when the House of Representatives voted to impeach President Trump in December 2019, saying, "I could not in good conscience vote against impeachment because I believe President Trump is guilty of wrongdoing. I could not in good conscience vote for impeachment because removal of a sitting president must not be the culmination of a partisan process, fueled by tribal animosities that have so gravely divided our country."

She's duplicitous and opportunistic and has zero loyalty to the Democratic Party so she doesn't get a seat at the table. Tough chit

[Pointgod]

Read on Twitter

[Pointgod]

Read on Twitter

[Gravy]

To completely keep her out and away from the party should be embarrassing for them. She's reasonable and smart enough, for people like me, to have swung people that hate Trump, but don't like biden, to some good change that we need.

I dont follow politics hardcore so I'm out of the loop. Why does the DNC not like Tulsi?

She went to war against her own party. Not in the AOC style I call BS kind of critiques, but actual war.

She has well known political affiliations with Assad and Modi.

Most of her attacks are similar or identical to the same memes generated by Russian troll farms and the Alt Right.

If you want to see how FOS she is, read this:

Gabbard voted "present" when the House of Representatives voted to impeach President Trump in December 2019, saying, "I could not in good conscience vote against impeachment because I believe President Trump is guilty of wrongdoing. I could not in good conscience vote for impeachment because removal of a sitting president must not be the culmination of a partisan process, fueled by tribal animosities that have so gravely divided our country."

She's duplicitous and opportunistic and has zero loyalty to the Democratic Party so she doesn't get a seat at the table. Tough chit

Gotcha. thnx

[ibraheim718]

I love her in more ways than 1. The DNC is already trying to blacklist her. To not have her speak at the convention is a travesty. I'll never support either party.. eff that.

To completely keep her out and away from the party should be embarrassing for them. She's reasonable and smart enough, for people like me, to have swung people that hate Trump, but don't like biden, to some good change that we need.

I dont follow politics hardcore so I'm out of the loop. Why does the DNC not like Tulsi?

On January 22, 2013, Gabbard was unanimously elected to a four-year term as vice chair of the Democratic National Committee.[139] In September 2015 she criticized chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz's decision to hold only six debates during the 2016 Democratic Party presidential primaries, compared with 26 in 2008 and 15 in 2004,[140][141] and to exclude from all future DNC-sanctioned debates any candidate who participated in a non-DNC sanctioned debate. Gabbard released a statement about the debate controversy in a Facebook post in 2015:[142][143]
Following her public criticisms of the debate process, Gabbard was reported to have been either "disinvited" or asked to "consider not coming" to the October 13, 2015 Democratic debate in Las Vegas.[144][better source needed] In an interview with The New York Times, she spoke of an unhealthy atmosphere, saying, "no one told me I would be relinquishing my freedom of speech and checking it at the door" in taking the job.[145] Gabbard privately wrote to Wasserman Schultz, accusing her of violating the DNC's duty of neutrality by favoring Hillary Clinton. This letter later became public in leaked emails published by WikiLeaks.[146][147]
Gabbard resigned as DNC vice chair on February 28, 2016, in order to endorse Senator Bernie Sanders for the nomination for President of the United States.[148][149] She was the first congresswoman to endorse Sanders[149] and later gave the nominating speech putting his name forward at the 2016 Democratic National Convention.[150]
In July 2016, Gabbard launched a petition to end the Democratic Party's process of appointing superdelegates in the nomination process.[151] She endorsed Keith Ellison for DNC chair in the 2017 chairmanship elections.[152]
Gabbard was assigned as Bernie Sanders's running mate in California for any write-in votes for Sanders.[153] Shortly after the election, she was mentioned as a possible presidential candidate for 2020.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard