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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th! 

Post#1321 » by wolffy » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:11 pm

As we start to dig deeper into this draft and people are bringing up players like Kira and Hali, i have to say that despite his weakness in playmaking, cole Anthony is likely gonna be better than both imo. I just dont think a shoot 1st pg is an option for us. But i definitely think hes the better player overall.
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Post#1322 » by PlayerUp » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:05 pm

wolffy wrote:As we start to dig deeper into this draft and people are bringing up players like Kira and Hali, i have to say that despite his weakness in playmaking, cole Anthony is likely gonna be better than both imo. I just dont think a shoot 1st pg is an option for us. But i definitely think hes the better player overall.


He'll be better but he really struggled at UNC. Then again so did Cameron Reddish and he started to finally adjust at the end of the season in the NBA.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th! 

Post#1323 » by wolffy » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:12 pm

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wolffy wrote:As we start to dig deeper into this draft and people are bringing up players like Kira and Hali, i have to say that despite his weakness in playmaking, cole Anthony is likely gonna be better than both imo. I just dont think a shoot 1st pg is an option for us. But i definitely think hes the better player overall.


He'll be better but he really struggled at UNC. Then again so did Cameron Reddish and he started to finally adjust at the end of the season in the NBA.

He did a bit for sure. Normally when you think UNC you expect a certain level of quality of the team overall. However this UNC squad was particularly devoid of talent. So much so that its hard to know if Cole just realized that or even Roy Williams. And they just decided to have him take way more shots than he normally would. He forced A LOT and it drove his numbers down for sure. But again this was a really bad team.
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Post#1324 » by PlayerUp » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:18 pm

wolffy wrote:
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wolffy wrote:As we start to dig deeper into this draft and people are bringing up players like Kira and Hali, i have to say that despite his weakness in playmaking, cole Anthony is likely gonna be better than both imo. I just dont think a shoot 1st pg is an option for us. But i definitely think hes the better player overall.


He'll be better but he really struggled at UNC. Then again so did Cameron Reddish and he started to finally adjust at the end of the season in the NBA.

He did a bit for sure. Normally when you think UNC you expect a certain level of quality of the team overall. However this UNC squad was particularly devoid of talent. So much so that its hard to know if Cole just realized that or even Roy Williams. And they just decided to have him take way more shots than he normally would. He forced A LOT and it drove his numbers down for sure. But again this was a really bad team.


I agree.

However we have Coby White. They are very similar players. Even if Cole Anthony excels in the NBA, he'd be splitting minutes with Coby White and those 2 would never co-exist or work well playing together. It wouldn't work in Chicago. Cole Anthony needs to play someplace else.
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Post#1325 » by PlayerUp » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:21 pm

Just_Bullz wrote:AK is not gonna trade down in this draft in my opinion. This is his first opportunity as top honcho with a 4th pick and it's too early to give up hope on Coby. He just finished his first season, it took Jamal a while to be where he is as well.


Well one issue with this draft is you don't have teams with multiple 1st Rd Picks. If we were to trade down, it would be something more like a lower pick + protected future 1st for #4.
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Post#1326 » by PlayerUp » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:23 pm

Dez wrote:Also Bol Bol hasn't proven anything yet.


Bol Bol was acquired by paying $ to pick up another pick. That's all it took. Great move, great upside. Meanwhile Gar/Pax never once bought a pick using straight up $ in 16 drafts total. Pretty pathetic. They did however sell picks for $.
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Post#1327 » by wonderboy2 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:27 pm

I have a feeling Cole Anthony will be a better NBA player then Hayes. Just way more talented. Just don’t think Anthony would be a good fit on the bulls. But he is one of the most naturaly talented players in this draft. My preference is 1) Ball, 2) Wiseman 3) Topping 4) Haliburton/ Adjiva. 5 Okorro/ Nesmith, 6 Poku/ Kira Lewis jr.
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Post#1328 » by wolffy » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:43 pm

White Lavine and Anthony doesnt make a lot of sense for sure
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Post#1329 » by PlayerUp » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:01 pm

Here is Deni's last big game. 22 Points 10 Rebounds



He struggled in his last 2 games but he is arguably one of the most versatile players in this draft.
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Post#1330 » by TheHrvReport » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:40 pm

I like Deni but I don't see a path where he becomes an all-star. What does he do at an elite level?

Shooting? Definitely not.
Passing? He is more of a secondary initiator than a primary one ala Doncic.
He is a below average athlete at the SF position in the NBA
His defense is actually not bad but I doubt that will be his calling card in the NBA

I'm getting major Dario Saric vibes from him and that is a guy you should be picking in the 10-20 range, not in the top 4.
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Post#1331 » by Grodoboldo » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:42 pm

wonderboy2 wrote:I have a feeling Cole Anthony will be a better NBA player then Hayes. Just way more talented. Just don’t think Anthony would be a good fit on the bulls. But he is one of the most naturaly talented players in this draft. My preference is 1) Ball, 2) Wiseman 3) Topping 4) Haliburton/ Adjiva. 5 Okorro/ Nesmith, 6 Poku/ Kira Lewis jr.


I mean, it's a crap shoot, but I think it's more likely that when it's all said and done in their careers, Hayes had a better one than Anthony.
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Post#1332 » by Grodoboldo » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:44 pm

The thing with Deni for me it's that it doesn't seem that he'll be a primary creator on a very good team.
A 2nd creator? Now, that's more likely.
Primary creators are much harder to find, that's why I'd really, really try to find one with a high pick, even in a weaker draft.
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Post#1333 » by Jcool0 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:31 pm

TheHrvReport wrote:I like Deni but I don't see a path where he becomes an all-star. What does he do at an elite level?

Shooting? Definitely not.
Passing? He is more of a secondary initiator than a primary one ala Doncic.
He is a below average athlete at the SF position in the NBA
His defense is actually not bad but I doubt that will be his calling card in the NBA

I'm getting major Dario Saric vibes from him and that is a guy you should be picking in the 10-20 range, not in the top 4.


Nothing about him says below average athlete.
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Post#1334 » by drosereturn » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:51 pm

wolffy wrote:White Lavine and Anthony doesnt make a lot of sense for sure


Anthony is more of a pure pg than White so White would be going to the bench.
His game was always 6th man I wont ever drafted based on him. Total non factor.
But anthony has high ceiling as a high end starter/borderline all star reminds me of post acl Drose.
Hes got game.
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Post#1335 » by PlayerUp » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:55 pm

TheHrvReport wrote:I like Deni but I don't see a path where he becomes an all-star. What does he do at an elite level?

Shooting? Definitely not.
Passing? He is more of a secondary initiator than a primary one ala Doncic.
He is a below average athlete at the SF position in the NBA
His defense is actually not bad but I doubt that will be his calling card in the NBA

I'm getting major Dario Saric vibes from him and that is a guy you should be picking in the 10-20 range, not in the top 4.


His shooting will come along. He isn't an average athlete and it's nearly impossible to engage how good he'll be in the NBA on defense. There is no clear all star talent in this draft.
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Post#1336 » by PlayerUp » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:58 pm

We're now 66 pages into this draft thread and literally nobody is on the same page on who we should draft.

There is no clear pick at #4 whereas opposed to other drafts, we could have already narrowed down to 3 to 6 prospects already. In this case, we like about 20 prospects.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th! 

Post#1337 » by Jvaughn » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:01 pm

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TheHrvReport wrote:I like Deni but I don't see a path where he becomes an all-star. What does he do at an elite level?

Shooting? Definitely not.
Passing? He is more of a secondary initiator than a primary one ala Doncic.
He is a below average athlete at the SF position in the NBA
His defense is actually not bad but I doubt that will be his calling card in the NBA

I'm getting major Dario Saric vibes from him and that is a guy you should be picking in the 10-20 range, not in the top 4.


Nothing about him says below average athlete.


Yeah I'm not sure what people are using as a measuring stick anymore as far as athleticism. Seems like if a person isn't pulling off Lavine type of dunks, they're labeled below average athlete now. Deni is definitely not anywhere near below average.
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Post#1338 » by Jcool0 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:02 pm

Showtime23 wrote:
wolffy wrote:White Lavine and Anthony doesnt make a lot of sense for sure


Anthony is more of a pure pg than White so White would be going to the bench.
His game was always 6th man
I wont ever drafted based on him. Total non factor.
But anthony has high ceiling as a high end starter/borderline all star reminds me of post acl Drose.
Hes got game.


Why you are going off of what Gar/Pax and Boylen did is beyond me.
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Post#1339 » by Jvaughn » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:04 pm

PlayerUp wrote:We're now 66 pages into this draft thread and literally nobody is on the same page on who we should draft.

There is no clear pick at #4 whereas opposed to other drafts, we could have already narrowed down to 3 to 6 prospects already. In this case, we like about 20 prospects.


That's not very surprising seeing as how there's no consensus #1 pick in this draft. Not gonna be anywhere near a consensus agreement on #4. This could definitely going to be like the 2013 draft where the player who went #1 was projected as low as #9. Nothing would surprise me here.
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Post#1340 » by Ugly Duckling » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:23 pm

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Ugly Duckling wrote:I'd like to get your guys' take on Tyrell Terry when you have a min. He's moving up boards and looks to have Steph/Trae/Dame range. His height is good at 6'3", but he only weighs 160 lbs. lol, which makes me think he'll be relegated to a 3pt specialist role off the bench. Plus he looks like he's 12. Thoughts?


I prefer Kira Lewis Jr. over Tyrell Terry.

Tyrell Terry is actually 6'1.5 and 19.9 years old.
Kira Lewis Jr is 6'2.5 and 19.4 years old.

Kira Lewis Jr looks like the better player at the moment and blew up at the end of the season.

With that said, this draft looks deep and I would look to acquire another pick later in the 1st Round if possible.


Wow you might be right about this kid. He's fast, can shoot, good handles, good on ball defender. The kicker is he looks highly-skilled around the basket. Has the Euro-step
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