Braggins wrote:I have a hard time buying Toppin as an elite offensive talent. I don't think anyone ever considered Miles Bridges an elite offensive talent and he had a similar body type, albeit a couple inches shorter, and similar athleticism, but was more skilled and well rounded at a younger age. He had better lateral quickness, despite it not even being a strength of his, better handle, better passing, and projects as a better outside shooter (slightly worse 3pt%, but more than double volume + significantly higher ft%). Toppin's crazy high fg% might indicate hes the better finisher between the two and I could buy that, but its hard to even be certain considering the competition level and age difference when they played in college. Miles is less than three weeks older than Toppin. What kind of numbers do you think he would have put up playing in Toppins place for Dayton in the Atlantic-10 conference this season?
Miles Bridges at ages 18/19 vs Big 10 - 17.0/7.6/2.4 -- 47.0/37.5 (5.5 attempts)/77.6 shooting splits -- 8.80 SOS
Obi Toppin at age 21 vs Atlantic 10 --- 20.0/7.5/2.2 -- 63.3/39.0 (2.6 attempts)/70.2 shooting splits -- 3.69 SOS
Miles Bridges at age 21 vs NBA --------- 13.0/5.6/1.8 -- 42.4/33.0 (4.6 attempts)/80.9 shooting splits
When you factor in Miles being a significantly better defender and even an equal, or slightly better, rebounder, the comparison overall doesn't look great for Toppin.
The last few posts in this thread by yourself and KGdaBom show statistically speaking Toppin is a lousy prospect. Even the offensive stats MasterIchiro found to support him have been rebutted as Wiseman and Okongwu do similar if not better offensively with much better defensive ratings.
To say an 18/19 year old Miles Bridges posted similar numbers in a much better conference is just the icing on the cake. To put it in perspective like you said he’s almost the exact same age right now as Miles Bridges. Bridges would probably average 30/10/10 for Dayton last year lol.
Not to mention to me Toppin looked terrible with the eye test (particularly defensively) unless you get excited for highlight dunkers. Hard, hard pass on Toppin.