2020 Presidential Election (All Serious POVs Welcome)

Pointgod · Post #961 » by **Pointgod** » Tue Sep 8, 2020 4:20 pm

We all know that money went into Trump’s pockets.

BallSacBounce · Post #962 » by **BallSacBounce** » Tue Sep 8, 2020 5:05 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:I would right to the comments section in order to get a pulse on how divided this country is.

Pretty stupid tweet from Biden.

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You want 4 more years of the current administration in office?

That’s all this vote comes down to.

Agreed. I'm voting for Biden and I'm doing it in-person. And I urge everyone to do the same.

That said, just because I want Trump out of office, doesn't mean that I like Biden. Moreover, I think he is running a shytty campaign (e.g. leaning into the "moderate republicans") which puts us at risk to losing to Trump.

No one here thinks that Biden is a shoe-in in this election. This feels like Hillary all over again to me. I believe Joe needs to make a hard turn to the left in order to generate enthusiasm to vote for Joe and not just against Trump. Playing not to lose is always a recipe for disaster.

Trust me, we want the same thing.

I'm surprised that the

Pointgod · Post #963 » by **Pointgod** » Tue Sep 8, 2020 5:54 pm

This is why you vote blue no matter who and why Democrats need to turn out in every election in overwhelming numbers. Lest you want more Brian Kemp’s and Republicans cheating. Expect more of this if Trump gets four more years.

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Stannis · Post #964 » by **Stannis** » Tue Sep 8, 2020 6:06 pm

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HarthorneWingo · Post #965 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Sep 8, 2020 7:27 pm

BallSacBounce wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
You want 4 more years of the current administration in office?

That’s all this vote comes down to.

Agreed. I'm voting for Biden and I'm doing it in-person. And I urge everyone to do the same.

That said, just because I want Trump out of office, doesn't mean that I like Biden. Moreover, I think he is running a shytty campaign (e.g. leaning into the "moderate republicans") which puts us at risk to losing to Trump.

No one here thinks that Biden is a shoe-in in this election. This feels like Hillary all over again to me. I believe Joe needs to make a hard turn to the left in order to generate enthusiasm to vote for Joe and not just against Trump. Playing not to lose is always a recipe for disaster.

Trust me, we want the same thing.

I'm surprised that the

Yes ... spit it out, man. :lol:

Pointgod · Post #966 » by **Pointgod** » Tue Sep 8, 2020 8:25 pm

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Phish Tank · Post #967 » by **Phish Tank** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 3:53 am

Stannis wrote:

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not a surprise because Florida latinos, especially mid to older Cuban Americans who represent a large voting bloc, vote Republican. Any policy framed as socialism will move them right. There's no swaying many of those Cuban Americans.

In Florida, they're a bit harder to persuade after many-a-years of Republicans working to earn their votes, from Rick Scott and earlier. That's what makes the state a hard sell.

HarthorneWingo · Post #968 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 4:25 am

Pointgod wrote:

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BallSacBounce · Post #969 » by **BallSacBounce** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 11:51 am

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize-by-norwegian-official

Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Norwegian official, citing Israel-UAE peace deal.

For his merit, I think he has done more trying to create peace between nations than most other Peace Prize nominees,” Tybring-Gjedde, a four-term member of Parliament who also serves as chairman of the Norwegian delegation to the NATO Parliamentary Assembly, told Fox News in an exclusive interview.

Also cited in the letter was the president’s “key role in facilitating contact between conflicting parties and … creating new dynamics in other protracted conflicts, such as the Kashmir border dispute between India and Pakistan, and the conflict between North and South Korea, as well as dealing with the nuclear capabilities of North Korea.”

Tybring-Gjedde, further, praised Trump for withdrawing a large number of troops from the Middle East. “Indeed, Trump has broken a 39-year-old streak of American Presidents either starting a war or bringing the United States into an international armed conflict. The last president to avoid doing so was Peace Prize laureate Jimmy Carter,” he wrote

Stannis · Post #970 » by **Stannis** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 1:25 pm

Norwegian official nominates Trump for Nobel prize, citing Israel-UAE agreement

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/515605-norwegian-official-nominates-trump-for-nobel-prize-citing-israel-uae

Pointgod · Post #971 » by **Pointgod** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 1:27 pm

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Stannis · Post #972 » by **Stannis** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 1:30 pm

Phish Tank wrote:
Stannis wrote:

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not a surprise because Florida latinos, especially mid to older Cuban Americans who represent a large voting bloc, vote Republican. Any policy framed as socialism will move them right. There's no swaying many of those Cuban Americans.

In Florida, they're a bit harder to persuade after many-a-years of Republicans working to earn their votes, from Rick Scott and earlier. That's what makes the state a hard sell.

Have to disagree because there's nothing really socialist about Biden other than getting an endorsement from Sanders, Warren, and other progressives.

Biden campaign made little to no strategic approach to getting the Latino vote. And it could be a fumble if he loses, because Florida and AZ (and maybe even Texas) are swing states this election with huge a Latino population.

If this is true, there's no reason Biden should be 16 points behind Hillary's Latino numbers other than a poorly ran campaign.

Post #973 » by **GONYK** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 1:33 pm

Pointgod wrote:

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This morning has been fairly strong for Biden in all the polls

Stannis · Post #974 » by **Stannis** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 1:38 pm

Polls are saying he's up in Ohio as well. Not sure if I believe that, but that would be huge.

Phish Tank · Post #975 » by **Phish Tank** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 1:44 pm

Stannis wrote:
Phish Tank wrote:
Stannis wrote:

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not a surprise because Florida latinos, especially mid to older Cuban Americans who represent a large voting bloc, vote Republican. Any policy framed as socialism will move them right. There's no swaying many of those Cuban Americans.

In Florida, they're a bit harder to persuade after many-a-years of Republicans working to earn their votes, from Rick Scott and earlier. That's what makes the state a hard sell.

Have to disagree because there's nothing really socialist about Biden other than getting an endorsement from Sanders, Warren, and other progressives.

Biden campaign made little to no strategic approach to getting the Latino vote. And it could be a fumble if he loses, because Florida and AZ (and maybe even Texas) are swing states this election with huge a Latino population.

If this is true, there's no reason Biden should be 16 points behind Hillary's Latino numbers other than a poorly ran campaign.

Republicans paint anyone who’s not one of them as socialist... so as long as there’s any synergy with Bernie, Warren, AOC, etc, doesn’t matter.

The Latino outreach is complicated. And not being on the ground because of COVID hurts. Bernie made inroads with younger Latino voters through events, discussing specific issues in Central America, etc. But there was a ground game

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thebuzzardman · Post #976 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 2:10 pm

Stannis wrote:Norwegian official nominates Trump for Nobel prize, citing Israel-UAE agreement

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/515605-norwegian-official-nominates-trump-for-nobel-prize-citing-israel-uae

Hey look! Norway has right wing nuts too!

thebuzzardman · Post #977 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 2:10 pm

https://www.ted.com/talks/yael_eisenstat_how_facebook_profits_from_polarization

Post #978 » by **GONYK** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 2:44 pm

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I know there is some controversy around the Lincoln Project for some, but this is why I appreciate them.

They are so much more agile and effective than the DNC apparatus as a whole when it comes to micro-targeting like this.

They fill in the gaps left by the campaign.

Post #979 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 2:47 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Stannis wrote:Norwegian official nominates Trump for Nobel prize, citing Israel-UAE agreement

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/515605-norwegian-official-nominates-trump-for-nobel-prize-citing-israel-uae

Hey look! Norway has right wing nuts too!

peace in the middle east is a good thing

thebuzzardman · Post #980 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Sep 9, 2020 3:01 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Stannis wrote:Norwegian official nominates Trump for Nobel prize, citing Israel-UAE agreement

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/515605-norwegian-official-nominates-trump-for-nobel-prize-citing-israel-uae

Hey look! Norway has right wing nuts too!

peace in the middle east is a good thing

Yes all that war between Israel and the UAE was terrible

Who are you voting for?