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Jedzz wrote:That's what we need, as much truth on these players we can get. We'll see how these others that are already dreaming about him take this side of the story.
Jedzz wrote:When you attempted to make this same argument right after the lottery, how did it go?
To me it sounds like a few guys really trying to talk themselves into this player with whatever they can dream up. Saying that playing with Dlo and Towns "should bring out the best in his game" is kind of a stretch guess, no? Culver didn't instantly improve his shooting because Towns, Wiggins and others were taking the heat off him. In fact his shot fell off the wagon. Free throws as well. Will the pair of Dlo and Towns be different? I can't say yay or nay and won't. But I do know that Beasley just finally got to a team that would start him and allow him to stay warm shooting and it looked like a great and positive thing for this team. Now we are going to throw another ill equipped shooter into the mix to cool everyone off again ala Wiggins? Here comes the on again off again Wolves again if this happens.
Remember when people claimed Culver had a good chance to improve over his college shot? Culver should have been able to pick his spots better and improve that shot, right? I think it means it will take a few years before he's shooting positively, at least consistently. Doesn't mean he won't have a hot game or two. Wiggins had those a few times a season too. Just sure hope he does it from minor bench minutes until he's fully ready.
Who knows right now how he is going to handle playing off ball waiting to be involved by a pass or no pass. "He's built for the nba" you said. I will say this, it is pretty rare for the Timberwolves to even have a chance at drafting a hyped player that already looks like he's grown out of his kiddie suit.
Baseline81 wrote:Jedzz wrote:When you attempted to make this same argument right after the lottery, how did it go?
To me it sounds like a few guys really trying to talk themselves into this player with whatever they can dream up. Saying that playing with Dlo and Towns "should bring out the best in his game" is kind of a stretch guess, no? Culver didn't instantly improve his shooting because Towns, Wiggins and others were taking the heat off him. In fact his shot fell off the wagon. Free throws as well. Will the pair of Dlo and Towns be different? I can't say yay or nay and won't. But I do know that Beasley just finally got to a team that would start him and allow him to stay warm shooting and it looked like a great and positive thing for this team. Now we are going to throw another ill equipped shooter into the mix to cool everyone off again ala Wiggins? Here comes the on again off again Wolves again if this happens.
Remember when people claimed Culver had a good chance to improve over his college shot? Culver should have been able to pick his spots better and improve that shot, right? I think it means it will take a few years before he's shooting positively, at least consistently. Doesn't mean he won't have a hot game or two. Wiggins had those a few times a season too. Just sure hope he does it from minor bench minutes until he's fully ready.
Who knows right now how he is going to handle playing off ball waiting to be involved by a pass or no pass. "He's built for the nba" you said. I will say this, it is pretty rare for the Timberwolves to even have a chance at drafting a hyped player that already looks like he's grown out of his kiddie suit.
Culver's shot mechanics were in need of surgery dating back to his days at Texas Tech. Meanwhile, most "experts" would agree that's not the case with Edwards.
Are you a fan of the Celtics' Brown? My post comparing the two shows you cannot simply look at the percentages and say because of that they'll be a bad shooter at the next level. Context matters.
And I've already gone on record stating I would hope Beasley starts besides Russell. Let Edwards begin the season off the bench, reducing the pressure of being the first overall pick.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
packforfreedom wrote:I don't know much about the prospects but it seems that Edwards has the best combiniation of floor and ceiling right now and I think you have to go for that and hope it works out.
minimus wrote:It seems like #17 is a perfect spot to get a shooter. I am thinking about:
* - Aaron Nesmith
* - Saddiq Bey
* - Tyrell Terry
* - Jordan Nwora
Neeva wrote:Rosas has to find a way to end up with Ball and Haliburton on draft night.
Klomp wrote:Shooting is no doubt important, but I also believe high-IQ off-ball cutting is extremely important especially in this system. That's not a skill that can be taught easily. You either have it or you don't. Wiggins never really had it. Guys like Okogie and Layman have it in spades.
minimus wrote:I remember Zach LaVine was an awfully bad decision-maker as a rookie playing out of position at PG. But those experiences helped him to develop into a quality SG. I wonder whether Edwards can follow the same path, gain experience as a lead ballhandler, main option in offense in Georgia, develop a killer instinct, and be an efficient scorer in NBA.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Baseline81 wrote:Darren "Doogie" Wolfson said the Wolves are doing the most homework -- a ton of background work -- on Ball and Edwards. If he had to handicap it today, Ball more likely the pick (as an asset for trade value now and later).
packforfreedom wrote:I don't know much about the prospects but it seems that Edwards has the best combiniation of floor and ceiling right now and I think you have to go for that and hope it works out.
Jedzz wrote:packforfreedom wrote:I don't know much about the prospects but it seems that Edwards has the best combiniation of floor and ceiling right now and I think you have to go for that and hope it works out.
Why is his ceiling so high to you over others and why is his floor so low?
There are players already more successful, that can drive the net, shoot 3s, make passes, defend, have decent size and probably more height. Wouldn't their floor be better? Couldn't their ceiling be better?
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