The4thHorseman wrote:Jonny Blaze wrote:Baronious wrote:The 3-6 finals record talk is the dumbest argument I've ever seen. We're penalizing LeBron because he overachieved and made it to the finals when his team had no business of being there? I guess he should have lost in the first round like Jordan did. That seems to be a bigger achievement in people's eyes... 2011 is the only year you can hold against him. That's it.
Jordan never had to face an all time great time like the warriors or 2014 SAS. He never had a finals appearance where both Pippen and Rodman were injured as well...
Let's also not forget Bulls won 55 games WITHOUT Jordan in 94 and almost made it to the conference finals without him. The only Lebron teams I can think of that may have been able to achieve that feat is the 2011 & 2012 Miami teams because of D Wade. Bulls winning 55 games without him and being 1 game away from the conference finals just shows how great of a team Jordan had around him. It would be fair to say he always had the superior squad in the finals. 6/6 record under those circumstances doesn't really surprise me...
What year did you start watching the NBA?
Lebron fans are something else.
Every season From 2010 until 2016 Lebron James played on the most talented team in the NBA. He did this while also playing in a horrible Eastern Conference.
When did his teams overachieve? a 3-6 record in the Finals is garbage with the amount of talent LBJ played with.
The Golden St Warriors were what the Miami Heat were supposed to be.
The 2007 and 2014 Spurs, 2011 Mavericks, and 2015 and 16 Golden St Warriors were not any better than any of teams that Jordan defeated in the 1990's.
The 17 and 18 Warriors are the only two teams that were clearly better than any team that Jordan faced.
The 2010, 2015 and 2016 Cavs best team in the league???
2014 Heat best team???
Thanks for the laugh.
You just made my point.
Since you won't answer what year you started watching the NBA....and based on the maturity of your retorts I am going to assume you were born in something like 95 or 96, and probably started following the NBA around the time Lebron entered the league.
You most likely never watched Michael Jordan play.
All of those teams prior to the start of the season where considered the most
TALENTED team in the NBA. But all of them got smoked. None of them ended up being that great.
Every Lebron fan loves to rewrite history because their boo thang has lost so much in the Finals.....
The Cleveland Cavaliers led by Lebron James, Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love were the pre-season favorite to win the 2015 and 2016 NBA Finals.
The Golden St Warriors were what the Miami Heat were supposed to be.
To the Lebron fans:
8 years ago I honestly thought that Lebron was going to dominate the 2010's like Jordan did in the 1990's when some of the elite talent fell off and retired.......and then the Golden St Warriors happened.
Its pretty obvious why you LBJ super fans have such a dislike of the Warriors and Kevin Durant. Its ruined your narrative of Lebron being this ultimate winner.
An ultimate winner who has stacked the deck in his favor his entire career by teaming up with other superstar players has a 3-6 record in the Finals.....with 2007, 2011, 2014, 2017 and 2018 not being close at all.
Lebron has a losing record in the Finals to Dirk, Tim Duncan, Kevin Durant and Steph Curry.
That is not GOATISH level stuff....especially compared to Michael Jordan.