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Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract!

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What should be the next step after Hayward opts in?

Remain on team for another Playoff run
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Traded on draft night
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Traded at deadline
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Theres a belief Hayward and team wants to help facilitate a trade
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Should sign a team friendly extension
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Post#61 » by The Corey's » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:25 pm

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GoGreen wrote:Andrew Wiggins? I don't want that contract. Guy doesn't care about winning. He's the same player he's been since he came into the league. Call me crazy but I'd rather trade Gordon for future assets, or roleplayers. We need a bench.


We'd be doing it to grab LaMelo, an elite playmaker with superstar potential. Wiggins is just a nice guy to have..


So is this speculation on our part or has their been smoke in regards to this?
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Post#62 » by BillTheGOAT » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:30 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:On the subject of Indiana

https://mobile.twitter.com/ftfonfs1

Dipo wants out....maybe they’d be more interest in Hayward after losing dipo idk

Id want Dipo as well. (That link says nothing about him though)

Problem is the GM is Pritchard, eventhough he hired a GM but he’s the defacto GM.

I like the Idea of trading Hayward for another vet instead of just getting a higher pick. We aren’t about to save money and develop players now in Kembas prime and Tatum heading into RFA a year from now. Need to either get something valuable (ie a vet) or just let Hayward ride out his contract with Boston.

Got to choose a direction this fall. Hopefully to move on from Hayward.

Edit with Oladipo there’d be too many chefs, just like a couple seasons ago not sure I want that.
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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#63 » by Parliament10 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:31 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:On the subject of Indiana

https://mobile.twitter.com/ftfonfs1

Dipo wants out....maybe they’d be more interest in Hayward after losing dipo idk

Victor Olandipo could be slotted into this Trade. But, he's definitely a Starter, at a position that we don't need.
Hayward = Turner & Oladipo. Still works. Just need something around it.

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Re: Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract! 

Post#64 » by JHTruth » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:38 pm

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chrisab123 wrote:
JHTruth wrote:
We'd be doing it to grab LaMelo, an elite playmaker with superstar potential. Wiggins is just a nice guy to have..


No more kids! Its time to stop getting bounced in the ECF.

I think that the Youth Movement is a good idea. Have some players around for the long-haul.
Our current batch, have all been to the ECF. Some, like Smart & Brown, have been there 3 times in 4 years.

We definitely have a good nucleus.


Building through the draft is always the best idea. You can always add other pieces around. The Heat's best player is in his third year and a guy they drafted.
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Post#65 » by JHTruth » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:41 pm

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JHTruth wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Andrew Wiggins? I don't want that contract. Guy doesn't care about winning. He's the same player he's been since he came into the league. Call me crazy but I'd rather trade Gordon for future assets, or roleplayers. We need a bench.


We'd be doing it to grab LaMelo, an elite playmaker with superstar potential. Wiggins is just a nice guy to have..


So is this speculation on our part or has their been smoke in regards to this?


LaMelo was in a Boston about a week ago and told a couple people at his hotel he was going to work out at the C's practice facility later that day. Celtics quickly out it out that he was there for Puma but doubt he was lying to strangers.

We'll see.
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Post#66 » by BillTheGOAT » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:44 pm

JHTruth wrote:
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JHTruth wrote:
We'd be doing it to grab LaMelo, an elite playmaker with superstar potential. Wiggins is just a nice guy to have..


So is this speculation on our part or has their been smoke in regards to this?


LaMelo was in a Boston about a week ago and told a couple people at his hotel he was going to work out at the C's practice facility later that day. Celtics quickly out it out that he was there for Puma but doubt he was lying to strangers.

We'll see.

I can imagine LaVar saying LaMelo is better than Tatum and that Tatum is holding him back. Then suggesting he take over Brads job. Hope they stay far away from that, thats if they even move up on draft night.
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Post#67 » by JHTruth » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:45 pm

BillTheGOAT wrote:
JHTruth wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
So is this speculation on our part or has their been smoke in regards to this?


LaMelo was in a Boston about a week ago and told a couple people at his hotel he was going to work out at the C's practice facility later that day. Celtics quickly out it out that he was there for Puma but doubt he was lying to strangers.

We'll see.

I can imagine LaVar saying LaMelo is better than Tatum and that Tatum is holding him back. Then suggesting he take over Brads job. Hope they stay far away from that, thats if they even move up on draft night.


I guess I don't understand this. LaVar hasn't been heard from in at least two years. He's nowhere near the problem people think he is. I'd say ADs dad is far more outspoken than LaVar
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Post#68 » by MagicBagley18 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:53 pm

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MagicBagley18 wrote:On the subject of Indiana

https://mobile.twitter.com/ftfonfs1

Dipo wants out....maybe they’d be more interest in Hayward after losing dipo idk

Victor Olandipo could be slotted into this Trade. But, he's definitely a Starter, at a position that we don't need.
Hayward = Turner & Oladipo. Still works. Just need something around it.

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Let’s bring in dipo and Turner lol
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Post#69 » by ddb » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:56 pm

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MagicBagley18 wrote:
This has been floated for a year nothing new...but we’ll see

Turner does nothing for us and certainly isn't worth that package


Whether you think Turner is worth the package is one thing, but as far as whether he does anything for us

Well...

Turner averaged 16 pts, 11 reb & 4 blk against Miami to Bam's 15 pts, 11 reb & 5 ast.

Theis, Kanter & Time Lord combined averaged 15 pts, 15 reb & 1 blk to Bam's 22 pts, 11 reb & 5 ast


Bam is a Top 5 NBA big. Relax. Turner did fine against him and in Boston he'd be playing with a much better squad then he had in Indy.
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Post#70 » by ddb » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:57 pm

Also, Boston shouldn't be building to beat Miami. Boston should be building to be the LA teams. The Lakers are about to **** pump the Heat. Book it. 4-1
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Post#71 » by keevsnick1 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:58 pm

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StojkoVrankovic wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
This has been floated for a year nothing new...but we’ll see

Turner does nothing for us and certainly isn't worth that package


Whether you think Turner is worth the package is one thing, but as far as whether he does anything for us

Well...

Turner averaged 16 pts, 11 reb & 4 blk against Miami to Bam's 15 pts, 11 reb & 5 ast.

Theis, Kanter & Time Lord combined averaged 15 pts, 15 reb & 1 blk to Bam's 22 pts, 11 reb & 5 ast


Bam also shot 48% with 4.3 FTA per game against MIA vs 60% with 7.5 FTA against the C's. Having Turner undoubtedly seemed to slow him down more than the C's big could.

It may also be a sign that Turner could show something without Sabonis next to him. 16/11 4 blocks on 60% shooting against a good team/big in MIA/Adebayo? Not bad.

I don't know, I get that Turners isn't a perfect player I just think put that guy on this team with optimum spacing, great perimeter D you could really maximize his skill set. I'd be willing to deal Hayward for him, he has 3 years left at reasonable money (18 million).
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Post#72 » by chrisab123 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:01 pm

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chrisab123 wrote:
JHTruth wrote:
We'd be doing it to grab LaMelo, an elite playmaker with superstar potential. Wiggins is just a nice guy to have..


No more kids! Its time to stop getting bounced in the ECF.

I think that the Youth Movement is a good idea. Have some players around for the long-haul.
Our current batch, have all been to the ECF. Some, like Smart & Brown, have been there 3 times in 4 years.

We definitely have a good nucleus.


The problem with that becomes the fact this team will continue to be a treadmill squad. But here's the funny part. Its not a treadmill team based on overall talent but its a treadmill team based on results. I don't want the Celtics to keep running this organization like a college program where they bring in young talent every year to replace the vets that are leaving. Stevens needs to suck it up and learn how to coach personalities or at least bring in a bench boss that will.
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Post#73 » by JHTruth » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:02 pm

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StojkoVrankovic wrote:Turner does nothing for us and certainly isn't worth that package


Whether you think Turner is worth the package is one thing, but as far as whether he does anything for us

Well...

Turner averaged 16 pts, 11 reb & 4 blk against Miami to Bam's 15 pts, 11 reb & 5 ast.

Theis, Kanter & Time Lord combined averaged 15 pts, 15 reb & 1 blk to Bam's 22 pts, 11 reb & 5 ast


Bam also shot 48% with 4.3 FTA per game against MIA vs 60% with 7.5 FTA against the C's. Having Turner undoubtedly seemed to slow him down more than the C's big could.

It may also be a sign that Turner could show something without Sabonis next to him. 16/11 4 blocks on 60% shooting against a good team/big in MIA/Adebayo? Not bad.

I don't know, I get that Turners isn't a perfect player I just think put that guy on this team with optimum spacing, great perimeter D you could really maximize his skill set. I'd be willing to deal Hayward for him, he has 3 years left at reasonable money (18 million).


I've always liked Turner since the Rozier draft. But frankly just letting Rob develop would probably net for more value for longer...
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Post#74 » by CelticsPride18 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:03 pm

Yeah Turner could be a good fit. Oladipo isn’t an option though there is no way we can have 4 max contracts on the payroll.
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Post#75 » by JHTruth » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:04 pm

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Parliament10 wrote:
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No more kids! Its time to stop getting bounced in the ECF.

I think that the Youth Movement is a good idea. Have some players around for the long-haul.
Our current batch, have all been to the ECF. Some, like Smart & Brown, have been there 3 times in 4 years.

We definitely have a good nucleus.


The problem with that becomes the fact this team will continue to be a treadmill squad. But here's the funny part. Its not a treadmill team based on overall talent but its a treadmill team based on results. I don't want the Celtics to keep running this organization like a college program where they bring in young talent every year to replace the vets that are leaving. Stevens needs to suck it up and learn how to coach personalities or at least bring in a bench boss that will.


We have the cornerstones. They are 23 and 22. Rob is 22. Smart is 26. It would be like all title runs. You keep the core together and then replace all the roll players around them..
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Post#76 » by chrisab123 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:07 pm

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Parliament10 wrote:I think that the Youth Movement is a good idea. Have some players around for the long-haul.
Our current batch, have all been to the ECF. Some, like Smart & Brown, have been there 3 times in 4 years.

We definitely have a good nucleus.


The problem with that becomes the fact this team will continue to be a treadmill squad. But here's the funny part. Its not a treadmill team based on overall talent but its a treadmill team based on results. I don't want the Celtics to keep running this organization like a college program where they bring in young talent every year to replace the vets that are leaving. Stevens needs to suck it up and learn how to coach personalities or at least bring in a bench boss that will.


We have the cornerstones. They are 23 and 22. Rob is 22. Smart is 26. It would be like all title runs. You keep the core together and then replace all the roll players around them..


With young kids who by the time they're ready to step in replaces Tatum and Brown who end up going to LA Miami NY or wherever has a super team. Rinse and repeat. It's a dumb idea to treat this team as a young team with potential. They have been bounced 3 times in the last 4 years in the same round. 2 of those times they should have won.
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Post#77 » by The Corey's » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:10 pm

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MagicBagley18 wrote:On the subject of Indiana

https://mobile.twitter.com/ftfonfs1

Dipo wants out....maybe they’d be more interest in Hayward after losing dipo idk

Victor Olandipo could be slotted into this Trade. But, he's definitely a Starter, at a position that we don't need.
Hayward = Turner & Oladipo. Still works. Just need something around it.

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Hasnt he only been there 2 or 3 seasons?

Cant really stand these guys who cant grind it out.
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Post#78 » by The Corey's » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:11 pm

CelticsPride18 wrote:Yeah Turner could be a good fit. Oladipo isn’t an option though there is no way we can have 4 max contracts on the payroll.


There actually is.

What people dont realize though is this team is in the repeater tax issue. We are royally screwed in regards to the cap due to the mishandling of Horford and Irving cap holds. I keep saying it because its been straight up ignored by a good portion.
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Post#79 » by keevsnick1 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:13 pm

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Whether you think Turner is worth the package is one thing, but as far as whether he does anything for us

Well...

Turner averaged 16 pts, 11 reb & 4 blk against Miami to Bam's 15 pts, 11 reb & 5 ast.

Theis, Kanter & Time Lord combined averaged 15 pts, 15 reb & 1 blk to Bam's 22 pts, 11 reb & 5 ast


Bam also shot 48% with 4.3 FTA per game against MIA vs 60% with 7.5 FTA against the C's. Having Turner undoubtedly seemed to slow him down more than the C's big could.

It may also be a sign that Turner could show something without Sabonis next to him. 16/11 4 blocks on 60% shooting against a good team/big in MIA/Adebayo? Not bad.

I don't know, I get that Turners isn't a perfect player I just think put that guy on this team with optimum spacing, great perimeter D you could really maximize his skill set. I'd be willing to deal Hayward for him, he has 3 years left at reasonable money (18 million).


I've always liked Turner since the Rozier draft. But frankly just letting Rob develop would probably net for more value for longer...


I mean it might. I sure hope it does. Or Rob may get injured again 10 games in. Or Rob may never solve his defensive position problems. Or a million other things. I think Turner is young enough, cheap enough, with a valued enough skill set that if you bring him in and Rob does explode you can always just pick one of the two too trade and get value back.
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Post#80 » by smith2373 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:13 pm

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smith2373 wrote:
StojkoVrankovic wrote:Turner does nothing for us and certainly isn't worth that package


Whether you think Turner is worth the package is one thing, but as far as whether he does anything for us

Well...

Turner averaged 16 pts, 11 reb & 4 blk against Miami to Bam's 15 pts, 11 reb & 5 ast.

Theis, Kanter & Time Lord combined averaged 15 pts, 15 reb & 1 blk to Bam's 22 pts, 11 reb & 5 ast


Bam is a Top 5 NBA big. Relax. Turner did fine against him and in Boston he'd be playing with a much better squad then he had in Indy.


I think you misinterpreted, I’m arguing in favor of Turner

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