Official NBA General Discussion 2019-20 V2.0

[hype_2004]

Let's be honest, outside of the coaching, I would much rather have Boston's roster than ours! we should all feel the same way.
On paper with Milwaukee out of the way and Siakiam underperforming, this should have been a cakewalk to the NBA Finals for the Celtics. They even benefited from Simmons' injury

Nah man, if Siakam didn't choke or even perform half decent we win that series and walk all over the Heat. It's still frustrating how one player can ruin th flow which eventually led to our early demise. Us against the Lakers I like our chances much better than these other teams outside Milwaukee.

[OakleyDokely]

It is quite nauseating that a dysfunctional franchise for almost a decade like the Lakers can fall ass backwards into another championship because one of the greatest players of alltime wants to retire in LA while another allstar forces a trade to LA. It makes the Raptors championship even more amazing and it makes the Knicks incompetence unforgivable considering they have a lot of the same advantages the LA market has.

[ash_k]

Let's be honest, outside of the coaching, I would much rather have Boston's roster than ours! we should all feel the same way.
On paper with Milwaukee out of the way and Siakiam underperforming, this should have been a cakewalk to the NBA Finals for the Celtics. They even benefited from Simmons' injury

Nah man, if Siakam didn't choke or even perform half decent we win that series and walk all over the Heat. It's still frustrating how one player can ruin th flow which eventually led to our early demise. Us against the Lakers I like our chances much better than these other teams outside Milwaukee.

had Siakam performed like last year we would have beaten both Miami and Boston. I agree.
But there is nothing wrong with admitting that the Boston Celtics talent-level is vastly superior than us. But good coaching matters (Nurse >>Stevens).

[radeonboy]

It is quite nauseating that a dysfunctional franchise for almost a decade like the Lakers can fall ass backwards into another championship because one of the greatest players of alltime wants to retire in LA while another allstar forces a trade to LA. It makes the Raptors championship even more amazing and it makes the Knicks incompetence unforgivable considering they have a lot of the same advantages the LA market has.

And I think what makes the Raptors championship more amazing and memorable for all is that we did it pre-covid where we could play in front of our home fans and when won we had an outdoor championship celebration. Imagine if we won a year later in this bubble, the experience and feeling would be completely different and IMO less satisfying. Its like the stars all aligned for a memorable year. And after what Kawhi did to leave and have him bounced out, it just validates the whole championship even further. Its a special win that has been etched into history

[deeps6x]

Toronto out. Denver out. The league got what they wanted, but lost my interest.

[fbalmeida]

It is quite nauseating that a dysfunctional franchise for almost a decade like the Lakers can fall ass backwards into another championship because one of the greatest players of alltime wants to retire in LA while another allstar forces a trade to LA. It makes the Raptors championship even more amazing and it makes the Knicks incompetence unforgivable considering they have a lot of the same advantages the LA market has.

It really is. But it's just the nature of the league unfortunately.

[ash_k]

Maybe it would have been a debate a few years ago still, but it really isn’t all that close anymore. What he’s doing at nearly age 36 is completely unprecedented (in his 17th year!) and he is on the verge of shattering basically every record on the books with little sign of slowing.

The idea that Kawhi was ever anywhere near LeBron’s level overall as a player was always laughable. Glad this postseason further proved that.

That was finalized in the summer. I am sure you had internet available then (that 'last dance' thing, remember?).

The propaganda documentary that was produced in association with MJ’s production company (that MJ himself “coincidentally” gave the go ahead to after LeBron beat the 73 win Warriors in 2016)? Yes I do recall it but I’m unsure what it has to do with LeBron being on the greatest run of basketball by an individual player in history.

Missed that one
The facts are the facts. That documentary just forced everyone to review all those facts.for example PER average ranking of all-time
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 27.49
3. Anthony Davis 27.42**
4. Shaquille O'Neal* 26.43

**No wonder LeBron is in the NBA Finals again , it would have been real nice seeing that Kawhi matchup though

[B-Ball Freak]

It is quite nauseating that a dysfunctional franchise for almost a decade like the Lakers can fall ass backwards into another championship because one of the greatest players of alltime wants to retire in LA while another allstar forces a trade to LA. It makes the Raptors championship even more amazing and it makes the Knicks incompetence unforgivable considering they have a lot of the same advantages the LA market has.

Yup, that's one thing Toronto will always have to deal with, even if it's a world class city and usually in the top 5-7 in most visited cities in North America, it will never be a prime free agent destination for American stars. The Knicks are just a disgrace, they have everything set up for them to succeed except for the most important thing, ownership.

[Mr Funk]

I can't believe how much short shrift Miami are receiving here. They are a really grimy defensive team with a solid culture and poise, they're similar to us with far better role players and coaching than Los Angeles. I like their chances.

[ash_k]

I can't believe how much short shrift Miami are receiving here. They are a really grimy defensive team with a solid culture and poise, they're similar to us with far better role players and coaching than Los Angeles. I like their chances.

1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 27.49
3. Anthony Davis 27.42
4. Shaquille O'Neal 26.43

One should expect a lineup made of 2 players with the highest PER of all time to sweep a team made of known commodities such as Crowder, Butler, Dragic ..no?

[LJKO]

Let's be honest, outside of the coaching, I would much rather have Boston's roster than ours! we should all feel the same way.
On paper with Milwaukee out of the way and Siakiam underperforming, this should have been a cakewalk to the NBA Finals for the Celtics. They even benefited from Simmons' injury

Nah man, if Siakam didn't choke or even perform half decent we win that series and walk all over the Heat. It's still frustrating how one player can ruin th flow which eventually led to our early demise. Us against the Lakers I like our chances much better than these other teams outside Milwaukee.

had Siakam performed like last year we would have beaten both Miami and Boston. I agree.
But there is nothing wrong with admitting that the Boston Celtics talent-level is vastly superior than us. But good coaching matters (Nurse >>Stevens).

I would like to add: Give Pascal half the calls or most of the calls Tatum get we'd sweep the Celtics and Heats no problem

[omar36]

Toronto out. Denver out. The league got what they wanted, but lost my interest.

you really think the league wanted heat over boston lmao. celtics vs lakers would have drawn huge ratings and would been prob a bit more close.

heat have been gettign the shaft all playoffs

[Mikistan]

Nah man, if Siakam didn't choke or even perform half decent we win that series and walk all over the Heat. It's still frustrating how one player can ruin th flow which eventually led to our early demise. Us against the Lakers I like our chances much better than these other teams outside Milwaukee.

had Siakam performed like last year we would have beaten both Miami and Boston. I agree.
But there is nothing wrong with admitting that the Boston Celtics talent-level is vastly superior than us. But good coaching matters (Nurse >>Stevens).

I would like to add: Give Pascal half the calls or most of the calls Tatum get we'd sweep the Celtics and Heats no problem

Ya Tatum was flailing around and getting whistles before contact Pascal was shut down by brown and I think brown had like negative 2 fouls called on him

[720]

had Siakam performed like last year we would have beaten both Miami and Boston. I agree.
But there is nothing wrong with admitting that the Boston Celtics talent-level is vastly superior than us. But good coaching matters (Nurse >>Stevens).

I would like to add: Give Pascal half the calls or most of the calls Tatum get we'd sweep the Celtics and Heats no problem

Ya Tatum was flailing around and getting whistles before contact Pascal was shut down by brown and I think brown had like negative 2 fouls called on him

The simple fact that the guy can get away with a forearm shiver every time he drives automatically allows him to get more open looks than Siakam ever could.

[720]

Toronto out. Denver out. The league got what they wanted, but lost my interest.

you really think the league wanted heat over boston lmao. celtics vs lakers would have drawn huge ratings and would been prob a bit more close.

heat have been gettign the shaft all playoffs

Refs tried their hardest by not giving Butler calls he got all playoffs. It was a joke.

[-AirCanada-]

We should have beat them. It was supposed to be a close series imo but we should have came out on top. This is on Siakam

Yes it's frustrating. But I look forward to next season. Siakam will our Bam. Lowry is our Butler. OG better than or Crowder an aging Iggy. TDII will be our Herro. Not sure if Matt is big enough to get his shot off as easily as Duncan R., but he could be our JJ Redick. If Serge signs a one-year deal, and Fred doesn't walk without fair compensation, we can still compete with these teams.

Lol raps fans...

Siakim is not one tenth bam... and well...no need to go further....

(Raps fsn)

were you saying that last year when Siakam was dropping buckets in the finals? or nah?

will you keep the same energy?

[LJKO]

had Siakam performed like last year we would have beaten both Miami and Boston. I agree.
But there is nothing wrong with admitting that the Boston Celtics talent-level is vastly superior than us. But good coaching matters (Nurse >>Stevens).

Also i'll like to say NOPE Celtics talent-level is not superior if some of our guys played to their level. Had Pascal played his inside game & give us 20ish PT, Gasol knocking down wide open shots that he normally makes & layups, and FVV deep 3s we'd sweep their asses in a blowout. My boi Norm was at fault too because he woked up too late in this series and he or Nurse should of called a Timeout after he stole the ball rather then try to be the hero that cost us kinda the game. Also Nurse being stingy about a lot of things too like sticking to his guys who was playing like compete TRASH!!!!!!

[ash_k]

had Siakam performed like last year we would have beaten both Miami and Boston. I agree.
But there is nothing wrong with admitting that the Boston Celtics talent-level is vastly superior than us. But good coaching matters (Nurse >>Stevens).

Also i'll like to say NOPE Celtics talent-level is not superior if some of our guys played to their level. Had Pascal played his inside game & give us 20ish PT, Gasol knocking down wide open shots that he normally makes & layups, and FVV deep 3s we'd sweep their asses in a blowout. My boi Norm was at fault too because he woked up too late in this series and he or Nurse should of called a Timeout after he stole the ball rather then try to be the hero that cost us kinda the game. Also Nurse being stingy about a lot of things too like sticking to his guys who was playing like compete TRASH!!!!!!

cmon guys,
Against us their starting 5 was made of 4 lottery picks:
The number one pick(3rd) of the 2017 / He certainly was my number one pick that year
The 3rd pick of the 2016
a 6th pick and a 9th pick (all this without counting number 9th pick Gordon H)

3 of them scoring 20+ points per game. Boston is the most talented team in East with Philadelphia. But Coaching Effn matters!!

About Nurse, without his 'stinginess', we would have lost against Milwaukee (FVV was beyond trash )

[fbalmeida]

A few additional comments on the finals.

It amazes me how fast I've once again grown so **** tired of everything having to be about Lebron James again.

Just yesterday I learned just exactly how huge a rift there is between Lakers fans and Lebron fans who just happen to be cheering for the Lakers. The Sacre-era Lakers fans, if you will, versus the Lebronsexuals.



Reporting on the Lakers this season has been a year-long exercise of writing up slightly different variations of the same three themes:
1. Who has the bigger dick: Lebron or Davis (everyone knows it's Lebron)?
2. What will this championship mean for Lebron's legacy?
3. Player X, not named Lebron or Davis is just so **** happy to be here.

So, while I'm resigned to the idea of a 4 game sweep for the Lakers, having the Heat somehow win the title would be a hoot and a conquest for developing talent, top notch coaching, and organizational excellence, all things that we Raptors fans can easily appreciate.

[TheRealDeal]

It really annoyed me that we didn't get see the NBA Finals logo or a Larry OB design on the Raps home court. They even moved the jersey patch to the back...looked like just another game in pics/highlights

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