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2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#901 » by Ell Curry » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:11 am

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LoveMyRaps wrote:I wanna try to acquire young A/B level prospects that haven't panned out with their respective teams but can excel with the help of the Raptors development tea and reach their full potentials. We should take this route considering we'll be re-tooling this season.

Who are some of those players that might be available via trade?

Lonzo, Lauri, Dunn come to mind. Who else?


Josh Hart, Justice Winslow, Mo Bamba, Dennis Smith Jr., TJ Leaf, Taureen Prince, Jordan Bell, Moritz Wagner, Spencer Dinwiddie


Quick thoughts:
Lonzo - Love his size and defense and passing and he should get better at scoring inside and outside as most PGs do, so depending on the price, sure, but I assume it will be a big price.

Lauri - My guess is price is too high for just a shooter but new Bulls management (though smarter) so who knows which young players AK thinks are best shipped out while they have value

Dunn - Incredibly intriguing, purely a question of if he can learn to stick a 3 and become a bigger, scarier Pat Beverley

Hart - Think he'd suit us nicely if Powell is dealt and VanVleet leaves, but I do think he's basically at his full potential

Winslow - Nah, they just dealt a ton for him. But otherwise, if VanVleet leaves, an OG-Siakam-Winslow-Powell-Lowry lineup looks defensively very strong and he'd help with some ballhandling work

Bamba - Going from **** to bad on O from year 1 to year 2 was an underrated and nice progression for a 21 year old stretch 5. He can shoot the 3 and is long, if Orlando is souring on him I'd be down for this for sure, though they obviously should tank and play him 25 minutes a night next year with Isaac out

Dennis Smith - For the minimum, as a reclamation project, sure. Probably have to turn him into a 2 guard to simplify things for him.

TJ Leaf - We'd have to project him as a killer 3pt shooter, but we could use a minimum stretch 4

Prince - I think he is who he is, but I also think VanVleet to the Nets for some combo involving Dinwiddie makes sense because...

Dinwiddie - Should be on this team next year. There are very few potential late game closers who could be available fairly cheap and don't eat into Giannis space and Dinwiddie is by far the best. Whether that means one of FVV or Powell is gone is hard to say, but it's also possible we could swing an Ibaka sign and trade for Dinwiddie and the Nets deal Jarrett Allen for a wing defender or guard. I genuinely think Dinwiddie playing 25 minutes a night and closing games for us against Boston running his preferred very high screen and rolls from 25 feet could have gotten us over the hump and we still need a crunch time perimeter closer next year and the league has gotten away from those types. Derrick Rose could be a fit. Jordan Clarkson would be too but he's gonna sign a longer deal. Lou Will for one year isn't insane either.

Jordan Bell - Don't see this one working out unless he's shown skill and reading the game development I don't know about in Minny. There's multiple guys on that roster I am more intrigued by like Okogie and Mclaughlin and Vanderbilt.

Mo Wagner - This one is interesting. He could play at the 5 for us and be another scorer and he might be 3rd string there next year so available cheap.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#902 » by OAKLEY_2 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:32 am

Dinwiddie - Should be on this team next year.


Somebody with skill isn't getting the ball on Brooklyn next year. Lavert will. Dinwiddie would be perfect. Norm is ideal for Brooklyn as he doesn't demand the ball. Perfect complimentary piece. Me, I am letting Serge and Marc walk. Offer sheet Juancho Hernangomez and sign Kyle O'Quinn.

Paskal/Hernangomez/OG
Lowry/Fred

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RHJ/O'Quinn/Watson
TDII/Matt Thomas
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#903 » by nabbs » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:37 am

I think the draft and trade deadline will be incredibly active. I fully expect a trade offer for Dipo.

Otherwise we should focus on a forward, a centre and some playmaking in the half court. We need more secondary creators.

One guy I would love to ask around for is Wendell Carter Jr
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#904 » by pr0gr4m » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:01 am

nabbs wrote:I think the draft and trade deadline will be incredibly active. I fully expect a trade offer for Dipo.

Otherwise we should focus on a forward, a centre and some playmaking in the half court. We need more secondary creators.

One guy I would love to ask around for is Wendell Carter Jr

I would consider Buddy Hield instead of Oladipo. The Kings' are a trash organization and he isn't really being used properly there. He has the capability and does what Toronto requires to possibly justify a 20+ M contract or to be consider just marginally overpaid.

I would still be okay with trading Powell for Hield and 12 then letting FVV walk. I would draft Terry(12), Reed(29), and Mane(59). It would set up for a future PG, increased scoring, fill in holes with young prospects. The Raptors could gain a great 3rd big and a high potential 2 in Mane that could be developed for the next 2-3 years. I would also grab Tillman if he goes undrafted.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#905 » by OAKLEY_2 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:45 am

nabbs wrote:I think the draft and trade deadline will be incredibly active. I fully expect a trade offer for Dipo.

Otherwise we should focus on a forward, a centre and some playmaking in the half court. We need more secondary creators.

One guy I would love to ask around for is Wendell Carter Jr


Failing that I'd even ask on Kornet... What if Fred wanted to go to Chicago? Bulls could trade Colby for something extremely useful like a proper wing - Dipo... With Chicago up against a 109m cap assuming Otto Porter claims his 28 for next year then Thad Young might be a consolation prize for a Fred sign and trade to the Bulls. Only $6,000,000 guaranteed in his 2021/22 contract.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#906 » by StopitLeo » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:19 pm

pr0gr4m wrote:
nabbs wrote:I think the draft and trade deadline will be incredibly active. I fully expect a trade offer for Dipo.

Otherwise we should focus on a forward, a centre and some playmaking in the half court. We need more secondary creators.

One guy I would love to ask around for is Wendell Carter Jr

I would consider Buddy Hield instead of Oladipo. The Kings' are a trash organization and he isn't really being used properly there. He has the capability and does what Toronto requires to possibly justify a 20+ M contract or to be consider just marginally overpaid.



If the Bulls extend Markkanen then I can see Carter Jr being available. He'd be a nice addition, kinda replacing RHJ.

I'm not sure I'm sold on Hield. Definitely not a fan of him complaining about his extension and then about playing time. He is also going to make $25M/$23M/$21M/$19M.

I don't see how/why the Kings keep Bogdanovic when they have Hield and Harrison Barnes signed to multi-year deals in the $20Ms. If we lose Fred then maybe Bogdanovic is someone to look at.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#907 » by MikeG » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:22 pm

pr0gr4m wrote:
nabbs wrote:I think the draft and trade deadline will be incredibly active. I fully expect a trade offer for Dipo.

Otherwise we should focus on a forward, a centre and some playmaking in the half court. We need more secondary creators.

One guy I would love to ask around for is Wendell Carter Jr

I would consider Buddy Hield instead of Oladipo. The Kings' are a trash organization and he isn't really being used properly there. He has the capability and does what Toronto requires to possibly justify a 20+ M contract or to be consider just marginally overpaid.

I would still be okay with trading Powell for Hield and 12 then letting FVV walk. I would draft Terry(12), Reed(29), and Mane(59). It would set up for a future PG, increased scoring, fill in holes with young prospects. The Raptors could gain a great 3rd big and a high potential 2 in Mane that could be developed for the next 2-3 years. I would also grab Tillman if he goes undrafted.


Powell for Hield AND 12??
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Post#908 » by pr0gr4m » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:44 pm

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pr0gr4m wrote:
nabbs wrote:I think the draft and trade deadline will be incredibly active. I fully expect a trade offer for Dipo.

Otherwise we should focus on a forward, a centre and some playmaking in the half court. We need more secondary creators.

One guy I would love to ask around for is Wendell Carter Jr

I would consider Buddy Hield instead of Oladipo. The Kings' are a trash organization and he isn't really being used properly there. He has the capability and does what Toronto requires to possibly justify a 20+ M contract or to be consider just marginally overpaid.

I would still be okay with trading Powell for Hield and 12 then letting FVV walk. I would draft Terry(12), Reed(29), and Mane(59). It would set up for a future PG, increased scoring, fill in holes with young prospects. The Raptors could gain a great 3rd big and a high potential 2 in Mane that could be developed for the next 2-3 years. I would also grab Tillman if he goes undrafted.


Powell for Hield AND 12??

Hield's a "bad" contract right now so they would need to dump him. There is little difference between the shooting talents of Hield, Lillard, Doncic, and any other high level shooter in the league. Hield would flourish next to Siakam in a higher pace and space system. He doesn't get the same amount of open looks on the Kings.

The 12th pick in a weak draft to dump 14 million and possibly have an expiring is what the Kings need more than a 20M bench player. I have a higher faith in the Raptors coaching staff turning around Hield's career and the FO hitting on the 12th pick rather than the Kings FO and coaching staff.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#909 » by h4rrison » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:43 pm

20' Offseason Wishes
-S&T FVV for Dipo
-Resign Ibaka
-Resign Boucher
-Resign RHJ

21'
-Sign Giannis
-Resign Oladipo
-Resign Lowry
-Resign OG
-Trade Norm for capspace if he opt-ins
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#910 » by nabbs » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:48 pm

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pr0gr4m wrote:
nabbs wrote:I think the draft and trade deadline will be incredibly active. I fully expect a trade offer for Dipo.

Otherwise we should focus on a forward, a centre and some playmaking in the half court. We need more secondary creators.

One guy I would love to ask around for is Wendell Carter Jr

I would consider Buddy Hield instead of Oladipo. The Kings' are a trash organization and he isn't really being used properly there. He has the capability and does what Toronto requires to possibly justify a 20+ M contract or to be consider just marginally overpaid.



If the Bulls extend Markkanen then I can see Carter Jr being available. He'd be a nice addition, kinda replacing RHJ.

I'm not sure I'm sold on Hield. Definitely not a fan of him complaining about his extension and then about playing time. He is also going to make $25M/$23M/$21M/$19M.

I don't see how/why the Kings keep Bogdanovic when they have Hield and Harrison Barnes signed to multi-year deals in the $20Ms. If we lose Fred then maybe Bogdanovic is someone to look at.



The only Kings guys I am interested in are Holmes and Giles. Other than that, no thanks. Hield is a good player but he is old and looking for a payday. Not interested in giving him one.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#911 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:48 pm

my plan would be to bring back Fred at a raptor cap friendly number.

I'd also like to bring back Ibaka on a 1yr to preserve cap space for next summer

I'd make a run at Whiteside to replace Gasol. Whiteside would give us some Rim protection, screen n roll presence, and a lob threat.

Draft a SF

A deal for dinwiddie makes some sense as well depending on what we might have to give up.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#912 » by Zeno » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:00 pm

nabbs wrote:
StopitLeo wrote:
pr0gr4m wrote:I would consider Buddy Hield instead of Oladipo. The Kings' are a trash organization and he isn't really being used properly there. He has the capability and does what Toronto requires to possibly justify a 20+ M contract or to be consider just marginally overpaid.



If the Bulls extend Markkanen then I can see Carter Jr being available. He'd be a nice addition, kinda replacing RHJ.

I'm not sure I'm sold on Hield. Definitely not a fan of him complaining about his extension and then about playing time. He is also going to make $25M/$23M/$21M/$19M.

I don't see how/why the Kings keep Bogdanovic when they have Hield and Harrison Barnes signed to multi-year deals in the $20Ms. If we lose Fred then maybe Bogdanovic is someone to look at.



The only Kings guys I am interested in are Holmes and Giles. Other than that, no thanks. Hield is a good player but he is old and looking for a payday. Not interested in giving him one.

Bjelica as an expiring C is appealing.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#913 » by zimpy27 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:07 pm

Not a big needle mover but tactical.

- Trade Powell for JJ + Okogie
- Okogie contract is a team option in 2021 offseason
- Okogie is Nigerian
- JJ is expiring
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#914 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:18 pm

Zeno wrote:
nabbs wrote:
StopitLeo wrote:
If the Bulls extend Markkanen then I can see Carter Jr being available. He'd be a nice addition, kinda replacing RHJ.

I'm not sure I'm sold on Hield. Definitely not a fan of him complaining about his extension and then about playing time. He is also going to make $25M/$23M/$21M/$19M.

I don't see how/why the Kings keep Bogdanovic when they have Hield and Harrison Barnes signed to multi-year deals in the $20Ms. If we lose Fred then maybe Bogdanovic is someone to look at.



The only Kings guys I am interested in are Holmes and Giles. Other than that, no thanks. Hield is a good player but he is old and looking for a payday. Not interested in giving him one.

Bjelica as an expiring C is appealing.


yes he would. anyone expiring in 2021 is super appealing.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#915 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:20 pm

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pr0gr4m wrote:
nabbs wrote:I think the draft and trade deadline will be incredibly active. I fully expect a trade offer for Dipo.

Otherwise we should focus on a forward, a centre and some playmaking in the half court. We need more secondary creators.

One guy I would love to ask around for is Wendell Carter Jr

I would consider Buddy Hield instead of Oladipo. The Kings' are a trash organization and he isn't really being used properly there. He has the capability and does what Toronto requires to possibly justify a 20+ M contract or to be consider just marginally overpaid.

I would still be okay with trading Powell for Hield and 12 then letting FVV walk. I would draft Terry(12), Reed(29), and Mane(59). It would set up for a future PG, increased scoring, fill in holes with young prospects. The Raptors could gain a great 3rd big and a high potential 2 in Mane that could be developed for the next 2-3 years. I would also grab Tillman if he goes undrafted.


Powell for Hield AND 12??


Powell might get you the 12th or Hield. not both lol

this draft is weak - Powell will have more value than a late lottery pick in all likelihood.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#916 » by MikeG » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:29 pm

pr0gr4m wrote:
MikeG wrote:
pr0gr4m wrote:I would consider Buddy Hield instead of Oladipo. The Kings' are a trash organization and he isn't really being used properly there. He has the capability and does what Toronto requires to possibly justify a 20+ M contract or to be consider just marginally overpaid.

I would still be okay with trading Powell for Hield and 12 then letting FVV walk. I would draft Terry(12), Reed(29), and Mane(59). It would set up for a future PG, increased scoring, fill in holes with young prospects. The Raptors could gain a great 3rd big and a high potential 2 in Mane that could be developed for the next 2-3 years. I would also grab Tillman if he goes undrafted.


Powell for Hield AND 12??

Hield's a "bad" contract right now so they would need to dump him. There is little difference between the shooting talents of Hield, Lillard, Doncic, and any other high level shooter in the league. Hield would flourish next to Siakam in a higher pace and space system. He doesn't get the same amount of open looks on the Kings.

The 12th pick in a weak draft to dump 14 million and possibly have an expiring is what the Kings need more than a 20M bench player. I have a higher faith in the Raptors coaching staff turning around Hield's career and the FO hitting on the 12th pick rather than the Kings FO and coaching staff.


i agree i like heild, i just dont think powell gets you him and the 12th pick lol.. if we can get that deal id take it **** sprinttttt
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#917 » by Syd-TK3 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:13 pm

Speaking Giles to Raptors into existence

One thing we learned from Porter Jr, Bol Bol, and OG is don't let injuries blind you from talent
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#918 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:18 am

If Wizards fail to re-sign Bertans, what would be a reasonable contract offer from the Raptors?
I think we should be all over him if he becomes available. Shooters like him don't come around often and he's still relatively young.

I think 4yr/64mil is a good deal for him.
Let FVV walk, start Powell at SG, and make Bertans the 6th man.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#919 » by douggood » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:39 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:If Wizards fail to re-sign Bertans, what would be a reasonable contract offer from the Raptors?
I think we should be all over him if he becomes available. Shooters like him don't come around often and he's still relatively young.

I think 4yr/64mil is a good deal for him.
Let FVV walk, start Powell at SG, and make Bertans the 6th man.

ibaka/gasol on 1 year godfather deals + MLE > bertans at 4/64$
if you go under the cap to use cap space you have to renounce the MLE.

so lets take giles from post previous as an example

ibaka 20 mil, gasol 16 mil giles 2ys at 8 per

just an example i realize its overloading big, but i rahter have that than bertans + 2 minimum players
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Post#920 » by Psubs » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:42 am

Syd-TK3 wrote: Speaking Giles to Raptors into existence

One thing we learned from Porter Jr, Bol Bol, and OG is don't let injuries blind you from talent


His passing is so crisp! If he can be mentored by Marc Gasol, look out.

He made $2.6 million last season in Sacramento. I'd be okay with giving him the full MLE with a player option 4th with max raises.

He's only 22. This would be like Powell's current contract and it's likely that he exceeds it.
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