2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[God Squad]

Not sure which Raptor name I like better. Isiaih Joe or Admiral Schofield.

I thought he would have been better than what he showed in Washington. Still kind of a fan.

[Mattatron]

What would it take to acquire Gobert?
Would Utah accept a sign and trade - Ibaka + Powell + #29 for Gobert ?

1. The question is - would Ibaka accept a S&T to Utah - i dont think so.

2. Gobert is unplayable in the playoffs. We've seen that the previous years all the time. Overpaid.

[Red_Claw]

Sign FVV 3 yr/60 mil
For
Oladipo

Trade Norman + Stanley
For
James Johnson + FRP

Sign Paul Watson to min
Sign Oshae Brisette to min
Sign Serge 1 year/ 25 mil
sign Tristan Thompson to MLE

Lowry*/TD*/FRP
Oladipo*/McCaw*/Thomas
OG*/Watson/Brisette
Siakam/Johnson*
Serge*/Thompson/FRP

*Expiring

Hopefully Milwaukee sh*ts the bed and are forced to trade Giannis for Siakam before he outright signs with us.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Sign FVV 3 yr/60 mil
For
Oladipo

Trade Norman + Stanley
For
James Johnson + FRP

Sign Paul Watson to min
Sign Oshae Brisette to min
Sign Serge 1 year/ 25 mil
sign Tristan Thompson to MLE

Lowry*/TD*/FRP
Oladipo*/McCaw*/Thomas
OG*/Watson/Brisette
Siakam/Johnson*
Serge*/Thompson/FRP

*Expiring

Hopefully Milwaukee sh*ts the bed and are forced to trade Giannis for Siakam before he outright signs with us.

lets hope.

[TheAlchemist]

Don't like Gobert. I think he provides great defense, but maybe a smigden better then Gasol (defensively).

We need a star/superstar offensively. An ISO guy.

I actually like the idea of Buddy hield.

[OAKLEY_2]

Sign FVV 3 yr/60 mil
For
Oladipo

Trade Norman + Stanley
For
James Johnson + FRP

Sign Paul Watson to min
Sign Oshae Brisette to min
Sign Serge 1 year/ 25 mil
sign Tristan Thompson to MLE

Lowry*/TD*/FRP
Oladipo*/McCaw*/Thomas
OG*/Watson/Brisette
Siakam/Johnson*
Serge*/Thompson/FRP

*Expiring

Hopefully Milwaukee sh*ts the bed and are forced to trade Giannis for Siakam before he outright signs with us.

Rapz nation would be ecstatic with that outcome. I really believe we are moving on from Marc and Serge. Baynes and Biz would be my guess as the replacements. I think the Raps will end up with Dinwiddie if Fred moves on. I expect Fred to re-sign though and also Chris Boucher. Maybe they sign Montrezl but it would be for MLE 9.7 mil. And no more.

[OAKLEY_2]

Double sign and trade works Norm for Montrezl.

[LoveMyRaps]

Powell for Ariza + #16

Powell for Miller + NAW + #13

Powell for Bjelica + #12

All of the above deals save money moving forward and we get a lottery pick.

[tecumseh18]

Sign FVV 3 yr/60 mil
For
Oladipo

Trade Norman + Stanley
For
James Johnson + FRP

Sign Paul Watson to min
Sign Oshae Brisette to min
Sign Serge 1 year/ 25 mil
sign Tristan Thompson to MLE

Lowry*/TD*/FRP
Oladipo*/McCaw*/Thomas
OG*/Watson/Brisette
Siakam/Johnson*
Serge*/Thompson/FRP

*Expiring

Hopefully Milwaukee sh*ts the bed and are forced to trade Giannis for Siakam before he outright signs with us.

Rapz nation would be ecstatic with that outcome. I really believe we are moving on from Marc and Serge. Baynes and Biz would be my guess as the replacements. I think the Raps will end up with Dinwiddie if Fred moves on. I expect Fred to re-sign though and also Chris Boucher. Maybe they sign Montrezl but it would be for MLE 9.7 mil. And no more.

Fred has been better than VO for the last two seasons and is undoubtedly a plus player in this league. I need to see proof that VO is better before trading real assets for him. I would however trade Norm + the usual garbage + 2020 FRP.

I would be happy to let Fred walk if there's a way to bring Dinwiddie in for half to two-thirds of Fred's salary. But if a multi-team S&T can't be worked out and Dinwiddie agrees to sign here for the MLE, we'd have to keep Serge on a one-year deal (and hopefully Marc on a cheap one year deal to stay under the tax).

It would be great to have a big guard like Dinwiddie. Ideally I'd pair him with Fred, and find a way to get Kyle to the Sixers (if he wants to go), but it would be tough to do that and still have max cap room in 2021.It's going to be fun watching Masai'thread the needle this off season

[sidsid]

Sign FVV 3 yr/60 mil
For
Oladipo

Trade Norman + Stanley
For
James Johnson + FRP

Sign Paul Watson to min
Sign Oshae Brisette to min
Sign Serge 1 year/ 25 mil
sign Tristan Thompson to MLE

Lowry*/TD*/FRP
Oladipo*/McCaw*/Thomas
OG*/Watson/Brisette
Siakam/Johnson*
Serge*/Thompson/FRP

*Expiring

Hopefully Milwaukee sh*ts the bed and are forced to trade Giannis for Siakam before he outright signs with us.

Rapz nation would be ecstatic with that outcome. I really believe we are moving on from Marc and Serge. Baynes and Biz would be my guess as the replacements. I think the Raps will end up with Dinwiddie if Fred moves on. I expect Fred to re-sign though and also Chris Boucher. Maybe they sign Montrezl but it would be for MLE 9.7 mil. And no more.

Fred has been better than VO for the last two seasons and is undoubtedly a plus player in this league. I need to see proof that VO is better before trading real assets for him. I would however trade Norm + the usual garbage + 2020 FRP.

No one is trading high ceiling former all-stars for Fred unless they have issues.

It's entirely because he's had injury issues that he's on the market and available for potential role players to begin with.

As soon as he proves that he's an all star again we'd have to add OG and a bunch of other stuff to the trade.

His expiring contract is also why other teams may be reluctant to part with assets, but that's actually a feature for us because we're planning for the Giannis offseason.

A Fred trade just makes perfect sense based on where we're at.

[tecumseh18]

A Fred trade just makes perfect sense based on where we're at.

I'd bet that it makes us worse next year, and then we don't have anything going forward. That's not the way Masai views and uses assets (who can defend and hit the 3 - unlike DeMar).

[sidsid]

A Fred trade just makes perfect sense based on where we're at.

I'd bet that it makes us worse next year, and then we don't have anything going forward. That's not the way Masai views and uses assets (who can defend and hit the 3 - unlike DeMar).

You may be right about it making us worse if he doesn't recover, but it also has lower tail risks (if he remains garbage, it's valuable cap space in the Giannis offseason).

But it's a high ceiling play if it does turn out.

Masai has done a similar move like this:

Drafting Bruno - High ceiling, low tail risk. Considered a reach for the pick, but it was in the 20s which has a low hit rate anyway, and salary hit is also lower because of it being late.

Losing a good role player when you're trying to upgrade the salary slot (i.e. filling it with an all star) anyway isn't a big problem. It's what we're looking to do ultimately anyway.

[LoveMyRaps]

Double sign and trade works Norm for Montrezl.

Interesting. I could see this happening. Seems like a fair swap for both sides.

[ash_k]

A Fred trade just makes perfect sense based on where we're at.

but then who is going to cover the point of attack against top PG(Kyrie&Kemba in our divison)? You might have not noticed but Kyle can no longer cover the Point of Attack against elite PG .

[Red_Claw]

A Fred trade just makes perfect sense based on where we're at.

I'd bet that it makes us worse next year, and then we don't have anything going forward. That's not the way Masai views and uses assets (who can defend and hit the 3 - unlike DeMar).

So what?

We need a number 1 option. We have a chance at Giannis. Thats the goal.

We need to be competitive next year while also developing our young guys (Pascal included). VO is a buy low, sell high otherwise, we'll lose Fred for nothing. VO has something to prove in a contract year. We'll either get more out of him than ever, or he'll be officially and slowly on his way out of the league.

The young players we pick up and the development of our already signed young players is more important to next season then the slim chances at winning a championship.

[tecumseh18]

A Fred trade just makes perfect sense based on where we're at.

I'd bet that it makes us worse next year, and then we don't have anything going forward. That's not the way Masai views and uses assets (who can defend and hit the 3 - unlike DeMar).

So what?

We need a number 1 option. We have a chance at Giannis. Thats the goal.

We need to be competitive next year while also developing our young guys (Pascal included). VO is a buy low, sell high otherwise, we'll lose Fred for nothing. VO has something to prove in a contract year. We'll either get more out of him than ever, or he'll be officially and slowly on his way out of the league.

The young players we pick up and the development of our already signed young players is more important to next season then the slim chances at winning a championship.

Agreed, we're trying to ATTRACT Giannis. Giannis of all people knows what Fred is capable of in the playoffs (when there's a legit #1 option to draw away attention from him on the perimeter). Do you think he'll come here for a 35-year-old Lowry at the point? Not even Middleton is that old.

Fred making $20-22 mill AAV, especially with an 8% dip in 2021, is not going to prevent us from signing Giannis. In fact, he's a sure fire drawing card. If he is to be signed and traded, lets make sure a similar drawing card (PG?) is coming back the other way. Too much risk with VO, and Masai doesn't have to play it so risky. After gaining the championship, the task now is to build a sustainable winner with our youth, including Fred and Pascal.

[OAKLEY_2]

A Fred trade just makes perfect sense based on where we're at.

but then who is going to cover the point of attack against top PG(Kyrie&Kemba in our divison)? You might have not noticed but Kyle can no longer cover the Point of Attack against elite PG .

I'd be more worried about losing his chemistry. I am pretty confident Davis II can become a very respectable one on one defender of guards.

[OAKLEY_2]

I guarantee we are keeping Fred. Might as well get thought out of people's heads.

[OAKLEY_2]

What would it take to acquire Gobert?
Would Utah accept a sign and trade - Ibaka + Powell + #29 for Gobert ?

1. The question is - would Ibaka accept a S&T to Utah - i dont think so.

2. Gobert is unplayable in the playoffs. We've seen that the previous years all the time. Overpaid.

Ibaka gets told see what your market is and give Rapz last bid. Lowry was afforded the same process twice.

[tecumseh18]

A Fred trade just makes perfect sense based on where we're at.

but then who is going to cover the point of attack against top PG(Kyrie&Kemba in our divison)? You might have not noticed but Kyle can no longer cover the Point of Attack against elite PG .

I'd be more worried about losing his chemistry. I am pretty confident Davis II can become a very respectable one on one defender of guards.

Just so it's clear, I didn't say the bold part. That's sidsid. ask k messed up his editing of the response.

As I say above, Fred being signed up for another 4 years is a a sure fire enticement for Giannis to come here. There's a significant chance that VO would NOT play well enough to be such an enticement. Why take a huge gamble on the health of someone who hasn't played well for a year and a half?