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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1781 » by playa-hater » Fri Oct 2, 2020 12:03 am

HondoFave wrote:Ainge has a tough mission because he loves to draft for the future but the window is open now. Kemba and Hayward are getting a bit older. I really hope he can cash some of those picks in for a useful vet. If not, hopefully, he can get a pick who can pay immediate dividends (unlikely but not impossible).


problem is any useful vet comes at a bigger than rookie price tag and Boston is already capped out..
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Post#1782 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Oct 2, 2020 12:10 am

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ConstableGeneva wrote:A fully healthy Hayward and a fully healthy Kemba would've had [b]more confidence driving the paint[/b], esp in clutch situations. Zone wouldn't have been much of an issue esp. in game 2. Hayward's defense wouldn't have been crap in games 5 and 6. Gordo had one game where he kinda looked like himself then it was all downhill from there.

Oh, and Raps series wouldn't have gone the full length with a healthy Hayward. Means more rest and prep for our guys. That series was taxing.

Hayward was averaging 19/8/4 on 61% TS% in 34 mpg during the seeding games. He was getting to the FT line as much as Tatum. That was the Gordon we could've had in the playoffs.



I don't know if or how much Kemba played with pain, but it wsn't his lack of quickness that was concerning me.. it was his diminutive size that killed us.. Since Boston probably can't trade him (my 1st choice) he needs to come off the bench and not close out games anymore. Smart and Brown should be the start and finishing backcourt. Problem I see is Stevens won't have the nerve to do it..

On defense, it's definitely a concern. So Stevens has to figure out how to hide him better. If Spo could play Dragic and Herro down the stretch, Kemba could maybe stay on the floor. Or just have offense-defense substitutions late in games whenever possible.

Even at sub-100%, Kemba was the only Celtic who had more than one clutch field goal (4/7) made and the only one who made a clutch three that entire Miami series. He was able to get off his patented stepback midrange shot a couple of times.

Smart had the opposite problem. You want him on defense late in games, but he killed us on offense by chucking homerun threes and turning the ball over.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1783 » by RB34 » Fri Oct 2, 2020 12:11 am

I know it was a tough ending to the season but y’all getting crazy.. Smart for Lonzo?!??!?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1784 » by Maple Green » Fri Oct 2, 2020 12:59 am

Small trade..
Boston out : Poirier and #47
Nuggets Out: Bol Bol

PG:-----
SG:----
SF:----
PF: Bol Bol
Center: Tacko Fall

Interesting Project if Boston already lead by 20 points Coach Steve can field the twin tower :D :o :nod:
What do you think?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1785 » by celtxman » Fri Oct 2, 2020 1:13 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Trade for Lonzo then trade up for #2 to get Lamelo.
Sign Liangelo out of Amazon Warehouse or wherever he's working.
Ball-Ball-Ball back court.


I accept this response.

Next logical step is to trade Tacko for Bol Bol straight up.
knowing Denver I would think the price would be a mile high.
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Post#1786 » by themoneyteam2 » Fri Oct 2, 2020 2:23 am

Kemba isn’t getting traded...
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Post#1787 » by captain green » Fri Oct 2, 2020 3:11 am

Maple Green wrote:Small trade..
Boston out : Poirier and #47
Nuggets Out: Bol Bol

PG:-----
SG:----
SF:----
PF: Bol Bol
Center: Tacko Fall

Interesting Project if Boston already lead by 20 points Coach Steve can field the twin tower :D :o :nod:
What do you think?

Go incredibly big unit Tatum timelord kanter bol bol tacko. nobody can see the basket therefore can't score
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Post#1788 » by flintsky21 » Fri Oct 2, 2020 6:41 am

If D'Antoni gets the Pacers job, Turner is definitely a goner. Just show em Hayward's 38% 3pt% last season and it's a done deal.
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Post#1789 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Oct 2, 2020 6:44 am

flintsky21 wrote:If D'Antoni gets the Pacers job, Turner is definitely a goner. Just show em Hayward's 38% 3pt% last season and it's a done deal.

Wouldn't it be more logical for them to trade Sabonis instead? At least Turner can hit the three and rimrun ala Capela. Sabonis is the anti-MDA as he occupies the block most of the time.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1790 » by Ernest » Fri Oct 2, 2020 8:43 am

playa-hater wrote:
HondoFave wrote:Ainge has a tough mission because he loves to draft for the future but the window is open now. Kemba and Hayward are getting a bit older. I really hope he can cash some of those picks in for a useful vet. If not, hopefully, he can get a pick who can pay immediate dividends (unlikely but not impossible).


problem is any useful vet comes at a bigger than rookie price tag and Boston is already capped out..


A lot of times they come for vet min contracts. Look at the Lakers with Howard. Anyone could have had him. Rondo is on a min deal too, so are Morris and Bradley right? I get that with the last 3 there is some degree of ring chashing/wanting to be in LA. My point is that you can always get some vet min contracts for older players and hope they work out. We didn't do it this season but I hope we do next season. Save 3 spots on the bench and hope 1 guy works out and is a help come playoffs.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1791 » by 100proof » Fri Oct 2, 2020 12:03 pm

Maple Green wrote:Small trade..
Boston out : Poirier and #47
Nuggets Out: Bol Bol

PG:-----
SG:----
SF:----
PF: Bol Bol
Center: Tacko Fall

Interesting Project if Boston already lead by 20 points Coach Steve can field the twin tower :D :o :nod:
What do you think?


Just need to Grab Simmons for the PG in that lineup, Tatum at SF and Brown at SG

pg: 6'10"
sg: 6'7:
sf: 6'10"
pf: 7'3"
c: 7'7"
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1792 » by 100proof » Fri Oct 2, 2020 12:34 pm

Just playing with an idea might need tweaking before I post on trade board, so give me some advice people

Brooklyn in: Gordon Hayward, Timelord (Kyrie likes him, adds a secondary playmaker and shot maker at the sf spot)

Utah in: Dinwiddie, Allen, Kanter, Poirier (cash from Nets to buy him out)

Boston in: Gobert, Joe Harris sign and trade (12.3 mill per year 3 years.

Kemba/
Smart/Harris
Brown/Romeo
Tatum/GrantW
Gobert/Theis

Do I need to include some picks?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1793 » by 100proof » Fri Oct 2, 2020 2:27 pm

Another I thought of.

Hayward, Porier and 14 to Clippers
Paul George and the bucks pick to Chicago
#4, Satoransky and Young to Boston

Kemba/Haliburton
Smart/Satoransky
Brown/Romeo
Tatum/Young/GrantW
Theis/Timelord/Kanter
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Post#1794 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Oct 2, 2020 2:37 pm

I was just thinking of Chicago. Mine's more straightforward...

Hayward, #14 for OPJ, #4. Flip Porter Jr. later in the year.

But I do like Sato and Thad Young. Just not sure PG would want to re-sign on a non-contender, non-LA team.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1795 » by 100proof » Fri Oct 2, 2020 3:06 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:I was just thinking of Chicago. Mine's more straightforward...

Hayward, #14 for OPJ, #4. Flip Porter Jr. later in the year.

But I do like Sato and Thad Young. Just not sure PG would want to re-sign on a non-contender, non-LA team.

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Would Chicago do that you think?

I believe with Sato and Young its a no brainer for them perseonally. And they are both non guaranteed next offseason as well, so essentially an expiring.
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Post#1796 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Oct 2, 2020 3:15 pm

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ConstableGeneva wrote:I was just thinking of Chicago. Mine's more straightforward...

Hayward, #14 for OPJ, #4. Flip Porter Jr. later in the year.

But I do like Sato and Thad Young. Just not sure PG would want to re-sign on a non-contender, non-LA team.

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Would Chicago do that you think?

I believe with Sato and Young its a no brainer for them perseonally. And they are both non guaranteed next offseason as well, so essentially an expiring.

Haha wishful thinking. But a playmaking SF is perfect for the Bulls if they want to compete soon. PG's too high-profile. Chicago might be hesitant to do the trade if they think he'll only walk after a year. Hayward could be easier to convince to stay.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1797 » by 100proof » Fri Oct 2, 2020 3:21 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
100proof wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:I was just thinking of Chicago. Mine's more straightforward...

Hayward, #14 for OPJ, #4. Flip Porter Jr. later in the year.

But I do like Sato and Thad Young. Just not sure PG would want to re-sign on a non-contender, non-LA team.

.

Would Chicago do that you think?

I believe with Sato and Young its a no brainer for them perseonally. And they are both non guaranteed next offseason as well, so essentially an expiring.

Haha wishful thinking. But a playmaking SF is perfect for the Bulls if they want to compete soon. PG's too high-profile. Chicago might be hesitant to do the trade if they think he'll only walk after a year. Hayward could be easier to convince to stay.



Thats the deal I mean.

Hayward and 14 for #4, Sato and Young.
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Post#1798 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Oct 2, 2020 3:29 pm

100proof wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
100proof wrote:.

Would Chicago do that you think?

I believe with Sato and Young its a no brainer for them perseonally. And they are both non guaranteed next offseason as well, so essentially an expiring.

Haha wishful thinking. But a playmaking SF is perfect for the Bulls if they want to compete soon. PG's too high-profile. Chicago might be hesitant to do the trade if they think he'll only walk after a year. Hayward could be easier to convince to stay.



Thats the deal I mean.

Hayward and 14 for #4, Sato and Young.

Combined salary of those two not enough to match. It gets complicated from there -- like a 4-for-2 swap or add a third team maybe?
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Post#1799 » by snowman » Fri Oct 2, 2020 3:54 pm

Danny said that he and the ownership except the fact that we are going to be a tax paying team next season. (I think he is saying that our starters will all be back). Danny said that a lot of work needed to be done, and that we are not good enough. (I think that he is saying that he dropped the ball on such a weak bench, and that the vets we did have on the bench (Wannamaker, Semi weren't good enough). But he also said that a healthy Kemba and Hayward would be a big difference. In my mind, that means our top players, Kemba, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Theis, Smart, R. Will, G. Will., Kanter and Langford will all be back, if Hayward and Kanter pick up their options. I got the impression that he wants the bench to be better, but not necessarily improved by vet players, but just better younger players that we have longer control of. I feel that Wannamaker, Semi, Green, Edwards, Poirier, Waters and Fall are on the hot seat. He couldn't come right out and say this guy is gone, or that guy is going to be released or traded, but the writing is on the wall. Notice has been given.

1) Wannamaker, Semi and Green are easily released or just not offered a contract, which doesn't cost us an asset to move, and can be replaced by the 3 first round picks. Regardless of who we pick, that in of it's self will be an upgrade to players that are an NBA talent and SHOULD be on an NBA roster vs players that aren't and shouldn't be. I have been advocating for Saddiq Bey, Tre Jones, and Daniel Oturu to replace these three and would be a huge upgrade in talent, with 4-5 years control over them and just a small uptick difference in the salaries.

2) That would leave Poirier, Fall, Edwards and Waters. It will probably come down to a training camp battle between Poirier vs Fall and Edwards vs Waters for 2 roster spots. I would expect Waters and Fall will win and we will have to trade or release Poirier and Edwards.
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Post#1800 » by Disinformation » Fri Oct 2, 2020 3:57 pm

A Hayward trade is not getting us from 14 to 4. He doesn't have that much trade value, especially to Chicago whose best players are in their early 20s vs. Hayward who is 30.
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