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2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#961 » by Rapsfan07 » Fri Oct 2, 2020 1:04 pm

OAKLEY_2 wrote:
Red_Claw wrote:Sign FVV 3 yr/60 mil
For
Oladipo

Trade Norman + Stanley
For
James Johnson + FRP

Sign Paul Watson to min
Sign Oshae Brisette to min
Sign Serge 1 year/ 25 mil
sign Tristan Thompson to MLE

Lowry*/TD*/FRP
Oladipo*/McCaw*/Thomas
OG*/Watson/Brisette
Siakam/Johnson*
Serge*/Thompson/FRP

*Expiring

Hopefully Milwaukee sh*ts the bed and are forced to trade Giannis for Siakam before he outright signs with us.


Rapz nation would be ecstatic with that outcome. I really believe we are moving on from Marc and Serge. Baynes and Biz would be my guess as the replacements. I think the Raps will end up with Dinwiddie if Fred moves on. I expect Fred to re-sign though and also Chris Boucher. Maybe they sign Montrezl but it would be for MLE 9.7 mil. And no more.


I wouldn't mind adding Dinwiddie but I imagine he's going to be expensive and we have quite a few more important holes to fill outside of a 6th man
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#962 » by StopitLeo » Fri Oct 2, 2020 1:29 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:I think the Raps will end up with Dinwiddie if Fred moves on.



I would be happy to let Fred walk if there's a way to bring Dinwiddie in for half to two-thirds of Fred's salary. But if a multi-team S&T can't be worked out and Dinwiddie agrees to sign here for the MLE, we'd have to keep Serge on a one-year deal (and hopefully Marc on a cheap one year deal to stay under the tax).



How exactly are we potentially adding Dinwiddie? He still has a year on his contract and his player option is in 2021.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#963 » by tecumseh18 » Fri Oct 2, 2020 1:49 pm

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tecumseh18 wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:I think the Raps will end up with Dinwiddie if Fred moves on.



I would be happy to let Fred walk if there's a way to bring Dinwiddie in for half to two-thirds of Fred's salary. But if a multi-team S&T can't be worked out and Dinwiddie agrees to sign here for the MLE, we'd have to keep Serge on a one-year deal (and hopefully Marc on a cheap one year deal to stay under the tax).



How exactly are we potentially adding Dinwiddie? He still has a year on his contract and his player option is in 2021.


Hmm, you are correct. For some reason the ESPN lists Dinwiddie as being in the last year, and I thought others in this thread were talking about him.

With his a 10 mill salary, I would trade Norm for him if Fred walks (get\s signed and traded). But conference rivals don't normally trade with each other, and I'd hate to have to face Norm four games per season plus playoffs.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#964 » by Raptors_128 » Fri Oct 2, 2020 2:02 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
StopitLeo wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:

I would be happy to let Fred walk if there's a way to bring Dinwiddie in for half to two-thirds of Fred's salary. But if a multi-team S&T can't be worked out and Dinwiddie agrees to sign here for the MLE, we'd have to keep Serge on a one-year deal (and hopefully Marc on a cheap one year deal to stay under the tax).



How exactly are we potentially adding Dinwiddie? He still has a year on his contract and his player option is in 2021.


Hmm, you are correct. For some reason the ESPN lists Dinwiddie as being in the last year, and I thought others in this thread were talking about him.

With his a 10 mill salary, I would trade Norm for him if Fred walks (get\s signed and traded). But conference rivals don't normally trade with each other, and I'd hate to have to face Norm four games per season plus playoffs.


Man if y’all hated Fred chucking the ball or dribbling the air out of the ball, wait unit you see Dinwiddie play.

Dinwiddie is Fred if he was taller, couldn’t play defence, and was a poor 3-point shooter.

I don’t think I would trade Norm for him tbh
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Post#965 » by douggood » Fri Oct 2, 2020 2:49 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
StopitLeo wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:

I would be happy to let Fred walk if there's a way to bring Dinwiddie in for half to two-thirds of Fred's salary. But if a multi-team S&T can't be worked out and Dinwiddie agrees to sign here for the MLE, we'd have to keep Serge on a one-year deal (and hopefully Marc on a cheap one year deal to stay under the tax).



How exactly are we potentially adding Dinwiddie? He still has a year on his contract and his player option is in 2021.


Hmm, you are correct. For some reason the ESPN lists Dinwiddie as being in the last year, and I thought others in this thread were talking about him.

With his a 10 mill salary, I would trade Norm for him if Fred walks (get\s signed and traded). But conference rivals don't normally trade with each other, and I'd hate to have to face Norm four games per season plus playoffs.

dinwiddle recruited kyrie, not sure nets want to mess with kyrie this season at least.
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Post#966 » by KL78192020 » Fri Oct 2, 2020 2:55 pm

Red_Claw wrote:Sign FVV 3 yr/60 mil
For
Oladipo

Trade Norman + Stanley
For
James Johnson + FRP

Sign Paul Watson to min
Sign Oshae Brisette to min
Sign Serge 1 year/ 25 mil
sign Tristan Thompson to MLE

Lowry*/TD*/FRP
Oladipo*/McCaw*/Thomas
OG*/Watson/Brisette
Siakam/Johnson*
Serge*/Thompson/FRP

*Expiring

Hopefully Milwaukee sh*ts the bed and are forced to trade Giannis for Siakam before he outright signs with us.


FVV will get more money than that. Plus doesn't make any sense for the Pacers, they got Brogdon at PG long term.
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Post#967 » by douggood » Fri Oct 2, 2020 3:28 pm

KL78192020 wrote:
Red_Claw wrote:Sign FVV 3 yr/60 mil
For
Oladipo

Trade Norman + Stanley
For
James Johnson + FRP

Sign Paul Watson to min
Sign Oshae Brisette to min
Sign Serge 1 year/ 25 mil
sign Tristan Thompson to MLE

Lowry*/TD*/FRP
Oladipo*/McCaw*/Thomas
OG*/Watson/Brisette
Siakam/Johnson*
Serge*/Thompson/FRP

*Expiring

Hopefully Milwaukee sh*ts the bed and are forced to trade Giannis for Siakam before he outright signs with us.


FVV will get more money than that. Plus doesn't make any sense for the Pacers, they got Brogdon at PG long term.

plus they have the 3rd holiday brother, aaron at pg who they like as well.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#968 » by OAKLEY_2 » Fri Oct 2, 2020 3:44 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
StopitLeo wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:

I would be happy to let Fred walk if there's a way to bring Dinwiddie in for half to two-thirds of Fred's salary. But if a multi-team S&T can't be worked out and Dinwiddie agrees to sign here for the MLE, we'd have to keep Serge on a one-year deal (and hopefully Marc on a cheap one year deal to stay under the tax).



How exactly are we potentially adding Dinwiddie? He still has a year on his contract and his player option is in 2021.


Hmm, you are correct. For some reason the ESPN lists Dinwiddie as being in the last year, and I thought others in this thread were talking about him.

With his a 10 mill salary, I would trade Norm for him if Fred walks (get\s signed and traded). But conference rivals don't normally trade with each other, and I'd hate to have to face Norm four games per season plus playoffs.


I think Norm straight up could net us either Montrezl or Dinwiddie. We always have a point guard going down so makes sense to me. I think we are at that place where if Norm isn't starting at the two then converting him avoids future overpay.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#969 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Oct 3, 2020 9:36 pm

The Magic could be ideal trade partners this off-season. They have a plethora of front court talent that we could look to acquire.
Isaac has sustained two massive injuries in the last year alone and is set to miss the entire 2020 season before becoming a free agent in the summer. Orlando will probably not look to extend him and might try to get some value out of him before he hits the open market.
Bamba is another intriguing prospect who is struggling to get any playing time with the team. Orlando plays Birch as the back-up for Vucevic more than Bamba.


Powell + 2nd for Bamba + Isaac
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Post#970 » by Psubs » Sat Oct 3, 2020 11:34 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:The Magic could be ideal trade partners this off-season. They have a plethora of front court talent that we could look to acquire.
Isaac has sustained two massive injuries in the last year alone and is set to miss the entire 2020 season before becoming a free agent in the summer. Orlando will probably not look to extend him and might try to get some value out of him before he hits the open market.
Bamba is another intriguing prospect who is struggling to get any playing time with the team. Orlando plays Birch as the back-up for Vucevic more than Bamba.


Powell + 2nd for Bamba + Isaac


:lol: Then Powell leave and they lose 2 former 1st picks still on their rookie contracts. They will re-sign both of them.

More on the trade block are Gordon, Birch and Fournier and Ross.

McCaw for Birch? Would we rather have Birch than Boucher jacking up 3's? His A/T is 2.
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Post#971 » by Rapsfan07 » Sun Oct 4, 2020 12:51 am

Hield and Gordon to Indiana
Bagley, McCaw and Johnson to Orlando
Oladipo and Turner to Toronto
______________ to Sacramento

Its time to move Lowry. We're not a contending team anymore and Lowry still has gas left in the tank. If we can get serious value in a Lowry trade (a pick and contract) like Wiggins or something, that package can be sent to Sacramento to make the above deal work.

Doing this deal means we don't have to waste capspace on re-signing Ibaka as we'll have a long term replacement in Turner and get Dipo to rehab
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Post#972 » by YelloC » Sun Oct 4, 2020 12:52 am

The fun/unique part of the predraft process under Masai/Bobby is that as fans, we now have to look at underrated, overlooked prospects that might have 1 or 2 tools and need the rest developed.
We literally have to look at 70+ prospects when you consider the extra 1st rounders we get undrafted. They don’t always hit but it’s almost always a surprise not including the OG pick which was basically a consensus pick when he dropped.
A bunch of first round bigs grade out fairly equally this year so the value will be in the ones who develop their tertiary skills. Each of Smith, Tillman, Nayji, Reed, Achiuwa, Oturu have a standout skill for their position but I’d be happy with any one of them if the rest were selected before our pick.
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Post#973 » by wayoftheroad » Sun Oct 4, 2020 2:15 am

Go after Christian Wood. Won't cost alot and I think he's only getting better.
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Post#974 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Oct 4, 2020 2:26 am

wayoftheroad wrote:Go after Christian Wood. Won't cost alot and I think he's only getting better.


We have Boucher. Not worth giving up any assets for Wood.
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Post#975 » by Psubs » Sun Oct 4, 2020 2:35 am

wayoftheroad wrote:Go after Christian Wood. Won't cost alot and I think he's only getting better.


Definitely over the MLE. He is an improvement over Boucher and can do a decent job on Giannis.
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Post#976 » by wayoftheroad » Sun Oct 4, 2020 3:14 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
wayoftheroad wrote:Go after Christian Wood. Won't cost alot and I think he's only getting better.


We have Boucher. Not worth giving up any assets for Wood.


Free agent I think
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Post#977 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Oct 4, 2020 3:54 am

wayoftheroad wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
wayoftheroad wrote:Go after Christian Wood. Won't cost alot and I think he's only getting better.


We have Boucher. Not worth giving up any assets for Wood.


Free agent I think


Yeah that's true. Who would cost more Boucher or Wood? I think the latter. I think Pistons are pretty high on Wood and he'd cost at least a couple second rounders at this point.
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Post#978 » by Syd-TK3 » Sun Oct 4, 2020 3:57 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:The Magic could be ideal trade partners this off-season. They have a plethora of front court talent that we could look to acquire.
Isaac has sustained two massive injuries in the last year alone and is set to miss the entire 2020 season before becoming a free agent in the summer. Orlando will probably not look to extend him and might try to get some value out of him before he hits the open market.
Bamba is another intriguing prospect who is struggling to get any playing time with the team. Orlando plays Birch as the back-up for Vucevic more than Bamba.


Powell + 2nd for Bamba + Isaac

magic can be good trade partners if we want Bamba or their 15th pick
But there's absolutely no way they are trading Isaac regardless of the injury he's their future
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Post#979 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Oct 4, 2020 5:35 am

Syd-TK3 wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:The Magic could be ideal trade partners this off-season. They have a plethora of front court talent that we could look to acquire.
Isaac has sustained two massive injuries in the last year alone and is set to miss the entire 2020 season before becoming a free agent in the summer. Orlando will probably not look to extend him and might try to get some value out of him before he hits the open market.
Bamba is another intriguing prospect who is struggling to get any playing time with the team. Orlando plays Birch as the back-up for Vucevic more than Bamba.


Powell + 2nd for Bamba + Isaac

magic can be good trade partners if we want Bamba or their 15th pick
But there's absolutely no way they are trading Isaac regardless of the injury he's their future


Hmm. I think they'd be interested in Powell because Fournier is a bonafide playoff choker. Therefore, Powell to Orlando makes a lot of sense.

Some deals that can work:

a) Powell + McCaw + #29 for Bamba + Fultz
b) Powell for Fultz + #15
c) Powell for Fournier + #15
d) Powell + #29 for Bamba + Ennis/Birch + #15

Pick your poison.
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Post#980 » by alan_156 » Sun Oct 4, 2020 3:04 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
wayoftheroad wrote:Go after Christian Wood. Won't cost alot and I think he's only getting better.


We have Boucher. Not worth giving up any assets for Wood.


Wood is much more polished, has much more potential, and his body more developed than Boucher. Boucher won't be anything more than an energy guy that can hit a 3pt shot every 4 games.

Give me some Wood.

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