The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 8)

Post #121 » by **zimpy27** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 2:40 am

Dupp wrote:One take away from the game was miami was able to recover on nearly ever lebron switch while the lakers didnt recover at all on butler switching

Yep, Lakers need to work that out quickly.

Blackmill · Post #122 » by **Blackmill** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 2:42 am

Dupp wrote:One take away from the game was miami was able to recover on nearly ever lebron switch while the lakers didnt recover at all on butler switching

I don't even know why LeBron was looking for the switch. He had no trouble powering through Butler the last two games.

Heej · Post #123 » by **Heej** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 2:43 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Dupp wrote:One take away from the game was miami was able to recover on nearly ever lebron switch while the lakers didnt recover at all on butler switching

Yep, Lakers need to work that out quickly.

Tbh all they need to do is just set double drag screens. To get the matchup they want. There's too many guys lifted to do the show and recover when they're double screening. I'd like to see some Spain PNR too where a third person backscreen Jimmy when he drops down to contain the LeBron drive

D.Brasco · Post #124 » by **D.Brasco** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 2:44 am

I was predicting the Lakers in 5 I knew them and knowing their track record they would give up a game, with Jimmy going off for 40 this was that game.

Game 4 will be pivotal and the Lakers need to treat it like a closeout game. Closeout minded LeBron especially is mostly unstoppable.

Greyhound · Post #125 » by **Greyhound** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 2:48 am

tone wone wrote:8 turnovers and bad defense. Honestly, this has not been good series defensively for him. He's been out of position a lot and the next time he contains Butler off the dribble will be the first time.

Honestly, Miami hasn't had that hard a time scoring. Jimmy was in complete control manipulating LA to get whatever matchup he wanted. Meanwhile, not being able to rely on AD's shotmaking in isolation left the Lakers sort of scrambled and aimless.

LeBron had a bad game and a horrible 4th quarter, but he did not play poor defensively in that game.

The Heat kept switching him off of Butler for a reason. I only remember Butler scoring against him once (or perhaps twice) in that game.

Ursusamericanus · Post #126 » by **Ursusamericanus** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 2:51 am

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yoyoboy · Post #127 » by **yoyoboy** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 2:51 am

tone wone wrote:8 turnovers and bad defense. Honestly, this has not been good series defensively for him. He's been out of position a lot and the next time he contains Butler off the dribble will be the first time.

Honestly, Miami hasn't had that hard a time scoring. Jimmy was in complete control manipulating LA to get whatever matchup he wanted. Meanwhile, not being able to rely on AD's shotmaking in isolation left the Lakers sort of scrambled and aimless.

Butler is a tough matchup for him imo. LeBron’s glaring weakness defensively at this stage in his career is his heavy feet on the perimeter. Against guards LeBron is long enough to recover even when they’re a lot quicker. He can use his strength to body up bigs. And his combination of the strength advantage and discipline makes him good against almost every wing. But Butler is big enough to not get overwhelmed by LeBron’s size and strength and he has the quickness advantage and those together make him a difficult cover.

AD needs to make his retroactive DPOY case and look down Jimmy next game.

Odinn21 · Post #128 » by **Odinn21** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 2:51 am

Him walking off the court even before the buzzer is the reason why I'm not fond of James' intangibles TBH.

Greyhound · Post #129 » by **Greyhound** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 2:55 am

Blackmill wrote:
Dupp wrote:One take away from the game was miami was able to recover on nearly ever lebron switch while the lakers didnt recover at all on butler switching

I don't even know why LeBron was looking for the switch. He had no trouble powering through Butler the last two games.

By going at Butler directly, perhaps he could have taken a little of the starch out of him on offense.

Very disappointing game from LeBron.

He needs to do whatever is necessary to insure this victory, not craft some signature game (for MVP purposes) or whatever the hell he is out there doing.

If he needs to go out of his way to establish Davis, that is what he needs to do. If Davis gets Finals MVP, then so be it. That crap is irrelevant right now.

yoyoboy · Post #130 » by **yoyoboy** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 2:58 am

Odinn21 wrote:Him walking off the court even before the buzzer is the reason why I'm not fond of James' intangibles TBH.

He’s been great all season in that area. Today was just an awful look though. It’s especially bad optics when you’re this close to winning a title. The glaring at teammates, barking at the refs, bs garbage threes in the 4th, and walking off the court early and dramatically whipping of his arm band with the camera on him.

Like come on dude YOU were terrible in that 4th quarter. You’re the leader. Take some responsibility for the loss, tell your team you’ll get them next game, and that you’ll all come out with a much better effort.

Greyhound · Post #131 » by **Greyhound** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 3:00 am

Odinn21 wrote:Him walking off the court even before the buzzer is the reason why I'm not fond of James' intangibles TBH.

Yeah, that’s the thing...

If it was not that, it would be something else.
Like most, you would find something else to not be fond of.

Of that I am certain.

nzahir · Post #132 » by **nzahir** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 3:06 am

Dupp wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:Hated Bron’s body language tonight. Come on dude what are you doing?

Was embarrassingly bad all game

How was AD’s body language? I didn’t pay much attention besides him complaining on the fouls

My thoughts tonight:

AD had a D- game. No aggression. 5 TO. 5 rebounds. Poor D. Just soft and pathetic

Lebron was decent, but bad on d and too many **** turnovers!!

DG has been so bad shooting this year. Very annoying

Kcp was 1/5, bad

Rondo had a regular season Rondo game

Kuzma and Kieff were good, which worries me because they were great from 3 and we still lost

No clue why Dwight isn’t playing more, I guess because Kieff was hot, but JR really had to play?

Butler with an A+ game

This is why you **** take care of business. Bam should be good to go next game and Miami has some dogs that don’t give up

We better come out high intensity next game and lock in on D. I expect way more from Bron and AD on D. Where the **** are those 2 on D?

kayess · Post #133 » by **kayess** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 3:06 am

Odinn21 wrote:Him walking off the court even before the buzzer is the reason why I'm not fond of James' intangibles TBH.

Lol that's the thing you pick out? Not his horrendous body language and effort all gamne?

Greyhound · Post #134 » by **Greyhound** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 3:07 am

yoyoboy wrote:
Odinn21 wrote:Him walking off the court even before the buzzer is the reason why I'm not fond of James' intangibles TBH.

He’s been great all season in that area. Today was just an awful look though. It’s especially bad optics when you’re this close to winning a title. The glaring at teammates, barking at the refs, bs garbage threes in the 4th, and walking off the court early and dramatically whipping of his arm band with the camera on him.

Like come on dude YOU were terrible in that 4th quarter. You’re the leader. Take some responsibility for the loss, tell your team you’ll get them next game, and that you’ll all come out with a much better effort.

The body language was bad, but to be fair, the other four starters were absolute garbage that game.

LeBron needs to handle that better.

Nothing he did indicates that he is not taking responsibility for that loss btw. He very well could have been mad at himself headed to the locker room.

nzahir · Post #135 » by **nzahir** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 3:07 am

KTM_2813 wrote:Is it just me or are the Lakers making very low effort switches? It feels like Butler can get whatever matchup he wants whenever he wants it.

Yes and it’s **** pathetic

I hate how guys don’t fight over screens anymore

dcstanley · Post #136 » by **dcstanley** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 3:09 am

A less than 100% Bam playing might be good for the Lakers. Olynk has been causing a lot of problems.

GSP · Post #137 » by **GSP** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 3:20 am

Bron is pissed. You could tell he wanted the sweep

yoyoboy · Post #138 » by **yoyoboy** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 3:24 am

dcstanley wrote:A less than 100% Bam playing might be good for the Lakers. Olynk has been causing a lot of problems.

Yeah I’m ready for him to come back too. Olynyk taking Davis and Dwight away from the basket has been annoying and Jimmy has been feasting.

He’ll upgrade them defensively though.

Heej · Post #139 » by **Heej** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 3:26 am

GSP wrote:Bron is pissed. You could tell he wanted the sweep

Yup he knows that would've looked nicer on the resume. But Jimmy proving one of my bball rules. A great player will win you 1 game in a series more often than not. Jimmy is certainly a great player in my book, especially after this. But he's not on the tier of player that you can pencil him in for 30 a night.

nzahir · Post #140 » by **nzahir** » Mon Oct 5, 2020 3:54 am

Heej wrote:
GSP wrote:Bron is pissed. You could tell he wanted the sweep

Yup he knows that would've looked nicer on the resume. But Jimmy proving one of my bball rules. A great player will win you 1 game in a series more often than not. Jimmy is certainly a great player in my book, especially after this. But he's not on the tier of player that you can pencil him in for 30 a night.

Jimmy's jumper isn't consistent enough and sometimes too passive. He is a good all star, but not a superstar

Not consistent enough

I better not see AD and Lebron come out sluggish and lazy next game

If I was the coach, I would be yelling at these dudes and calling them out on everything

Multiple times when AD and Lebron got rekt on D by guys like Kelly and Crowder, joke