2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch

[Oscirus]

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oh no

Does Cenk realize that Trump is President, not Pence? The whole purpose was to tie every failure to Trump, not Pence.

If theres anybody that harris and biden should listen to its the guy who couldnt finish top 3 in a california democratic primary for congress

[Pointgod]

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[thebuzzardman]

RT isn't an arm of the Russian govt and gets no editorial input from it. It's very independent and has become the home of most of the anti-imperial voices of Americans who MSM including the conservative outlets won't platform because they like the money from the corporate overlords.

The MSM either run cover for or have full throated support for the bloodthirsty war mongering, international meddling, political corruption, environmental catastrophe, corporate criminality and anything else their sponsors want because they getting rich and don't care about people other than the eyeballs they get from them.

They are story tellers spinning establishment narratives on events that happen not actually truth tellers providing the facts and reality of what's going on. Unfortunately the alt-media is also filled with just as many grifters hoping to cash in from bubble feeding.

It's very hard to find real organic information without it covered in processed bias spin.

Yet in your conception of life and media existence, you can accept that the "MSM is completely biased" yet can see no way in which RT might be playing a different, but equally biased game?

Sorry, but this comes across like a russian mail order bride who discovered some unpleasant fact about how certain things can work in the USA, but then completely ignores what the dynamic might be in her own land.

The bias is anti-imperial...I said it right in the post, did you miss that or just ignoring it?

Whatever. Yeah, Russia. The great anti imperial power.

[Clyde_Style]

Harris did well. Good job.

I can see Mamala handling Putin

[Clyde_Style]

Kamala soothed any Republican defectors who had only heard she was a pinko radical and Pence gained zero ground for Trump and this made me very sleepy so good night

[Pointgod]

Kamala soothed any Republican defectors who had only heard she was a pinko radical and Pence gained zero ground for Trump and this made me very sleepy so good night

Pence was low energy. I’m sure Trump is talking **** about him as we speak. I can’t see anyone deciding to break for Trump after seeing Pence. Kamala didn’t hurt Biden which is the most important point. Just look how Palin absolutely tanked McCain’s presidency.

[HarthorneWingo]

That fly ...

[robillionaire]

I feel it was a lost opportunity, should have been a layup debate and she should have crushed him, but didn’t capitalize. In fact he steamrolled her and got the last word on each topic and he got away with a lot by ignoring the rules of the debate. The moderator was terrible and did not hold him accountable for ignoring every question. So he got his talking points out there and didn’t get the evisceration he deserves. Trump soft served them when he buried a stimulus package yesterday and they didn’t bring that up either. I still want to say slight edge to Kamala because she has a lead and didn’t mess anything up too bad, but mostly because the fly and the metaphors that will come from it.

Also the questions were bad in general

[GONYK]

Harris did well. Good job.

The only review I needed to see

[j4remi]

Felt like Pence kinda threw her off early on by just not answering questions and going way over his time with barely related talking points. Once she got used to it though, she did well with what was a tricky situation between weak questions and Pence focusing so much on his messaging that he ignored some questions whole cloth. I do think she coulda gone harder at points and countered some of Pence's nonsense by calling it out; but she took the high road and honestly, with the way media fishes for narratives playing it safe wasn't a bad idea.

[Knick4Real]

Kamala Harris had ONE job tonight. It was not to "win" or to deliver one-liner zingers for social media. Her ONE job was to do no wrong. And she did it!

Biden-Harris is up 11-12 points in almost every reputable national poll -- which means they're doing something right. Kamala didn't need to rock the boat. She only needed to hold her own and appear ready and qualified to step into the presidency if need be. And she did it!

Pence needed to land a quadruple somersault and save the Trump-Pence ticket from a possible rout on November 3rd. And he DIDN'T!

[Phish Tank]

Because the Yanks **** the bed, I watched the entirety of the debate.

Harris did what she needed to do, no more no less.

[GONYK]

Pence tactically did fine, in the sense that he competently delivered arguments that the American people have already rejected.

Kamala did fine in the sense that she created more moments that are easier to share on Twitter and didn't make any real mistakes.

Both of them did what they came to do, but it wasn't to debate each other.

[Cookies4Life]

All things considered I thought both did well. I feel bad for Pence, he seemed like he was on damage control for his wacky ticket partner and he definitely didn't do enough to help him or Trump get out of the hole Donnie excavated for them really throughout the entirety of his presidency.

Kamala seemed a little nervous at first, I was concerned maybe the stage was a bit too big for her but her nerves calmed down as the debate went along and did really well. I thought she answered almost all the moderator questions more directly than Mike outside of the potential "packing the court" if Amy Barrett receives confirmation as supreme court justice.

I didn't like Pence bringing up his faith in regards to being pro-choice. Politics are supposed to be secular and clearly those that oppose Roe V Wade do so because of their religious convictions which should have nothing to do with that ruling.

I didn't like the fact they spent too much time on the fracking issue with kamala having to mention several times that Biden wasn't going to cut the fracking job sector. All in all it was a much healthier debate than last week even with Pence trying to steamroll her at times and going past his allotted time.

I'm positive this race is over at this juncture. Looks like BIden is going to run away with this election.

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[Cookies4Life]

Kamala soothed any Republican defectors who had only heard she was a pinko radical and Pence gained zero ground for Trump and this made me very sleepy so good night

Pence was low energy. I’m sure Trump is talking **** about him as we speak. I can’t see anyone deciding to break for Trump after seeing Pence. Kamala didn’t hurt Biden which is the most important point. Just look how Palin absolutely tanked McCain’s presidency.

I thought his energy level was ok. It was much more presidential-like than the histrionic actions of his running mate last week.

I don't agree with many of his political views but he's exponentially more "presidential" than Donnie and will probably garner heavy support by the GOP to run in 2024.

[Cookies4Life]

I feel it was a lost opportunity, should have been a layup debate and she should have crushed him, but didn’t capitalize. In fact he steamrolled her and got the last word on each topic and he got away with a lot by ignoring the rules of the debate. The moderator was terrible and did not hold him accountable for ignoring every question. So he got his talking points out there and didn’t get the evisceration he deserves. Trump soft served them when he buried a stimulus package yesterday and they didn’t bring that up either. I still want to say slight edge to Kamala because she has a lead and didn’t mess anything up too bad, but mostly because the fly and the metaphors that will come from it.

Also the questions were bad in general

I thought the moderator did pretty well. Pence went over his time limit several times but he didn't interrupt Kamala anywhere near as much as I was expecting. Susan also stopped the debate at one point to explain to Pence that his campaign agreed upon the rules before the debate which essentially shut him up for that period.

It was a much healthier debate compared to last week. Unfortunately we're going to be reverted back to the circus show starting next week. Pence didn't hurt his running mate with his performance but I think we can all agree that Trump is probably going to continue damaging his ticket when he returns for the 2nd debate. He's really coming off unhinged.

[DrCoach]

#BlackFliesMatter

[K_ick_God]

Trump’s latest video is sad man. His family needs to help him.

It came off like an aged Hollywood has-been who hasn't yet realized they're only 5 minutes away from irrelevancy.

A weird infomercial / snake oil sale / recently dumped boyfriend who wants to get one more date.

[Oscirus]

that town hall if it even happens is gonna be ****