TheLogician wrote:Kira Lewis Jr. is still my pick. I'm glad Jones is in on him.
Top of your board?
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TheLogician wrote:Kira Lewis Jr. is still my pick. I'm glad Jones is in on him.
bwgood77 wrote:Top of your board?
bwgood77 wrote:Saberestar wrote:
Man, I hate that the Athletic got rid of her. She was our best beat reporter we've had in awhile, and I can only read so much of the BSoTS dribble. I think David Kevin (or whatever his real name is) is pretty decent...good head on shoulders.
But Gina is really tuned into the team and sports community.
The problem is I don't know that I want to pay her fees just for her content...I think I had a better deal at The Athletic for her stuff and other people's. She is the main reason I had an Athletic subsription, which I canceled, and told them why (but it still is running through November because I had prepaid or something) but now I don't want to lose some of the football beat writers, particularly the Chargers, so I may have to re-up there if they get a good deal.
I just hope they bring her back. The Suns fans there read her and loved her, and whoever else they would bring in to write articles aside from her or after her, stunk...Bob Young wrote some not so great ones earlier...can't remember who did later but you can tell they were far less vested.
Does anyone have a subsription to her new stuff?
TheLogician wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Top of your board?
Top target at #10. Ahead of Haliburton and Toppin for me.
I personally have Hali ahead of Lewis but it's like you mentioned I think he works with booker because he wouldn't have to be a pure point. But I understand why some would have Lewis ahead, the ability to break down a D and potential to be a pull up 3 guy are super important traits for lead ball handlers in today's NBA and Lewis has way more potential in those areas.TheLogician wrote:Haliburton doesn't really get to the line which I think is important for a lead ball handler. I think he would be a good fit as an off guard with Booker. He is a great defender and high % shooter even though his jump shot looked weird in college. I like Lewis' upside a little more since he can play on or off ball. He has to improve as an initiator but he is really young. It looks like he is beginning to fill out a little from those pre-draft videos.
WeekapaugGroove wrote:I personally have Hali ahead of Lewis but it's like you mentioned I think he works with booker because he wouldn't have to be a pure point. But I understand why some would have Lewis ahead, the ability to break down a D and potential to be a pull up 3 guy are super important traits for lead ball handlers in today's NBA and Lewis has way more potential in those areas.TheLogician wrote:Haliburton doesn't really get to the line which I think is important for a lead ball handler. I think he would be a good fit as an off guard with Booker. He is a great defender and high % shooter even though his jump shot looked weird in college. I like Lewis' upside a little more since he can play on or off ball. He has to improve as an initiator but he is really young. It looks like he is beginning to fill out a little from those pre-draft videos.
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TheLogician wrote:Haliburton doesn't really get to the line which I think is important for a lead ball handler. I think he would be a good fit as an off guard with Booker. He is a great defender and high % shooter even though his jump shot looked weird in college. I like Lewis' upside a little more since he can play on or off ball. He has to improve as an initiator but he is really young. It looks like he is beginning to fill out a little from those pre-draft videos.
bwgood77 wrote:TheLogician wrote:Haliburton doesn't really get to the line which I think is important for a lead ball handler. I think he would be a good fit as an off guard with Booker. He is a great defender and high % shooter even though his jump shot looked weird in college. I like Lewis' upside a little more since he can play on or off ball. He has to improve as an initiator but he is really young. It looks like he is beginning to fill out a little from those pre-draft videos.
One of the things always mentioned about Haliburton is his great ability to play on or off ball. He would make a great SG next to Rubio, with a much better 3pt ball than Lewis, and then also be the better PG when playing with Booker (who could also play off him as the SG when Booker handles).
I can get the bigger upside but it's only a year difference in age, and he trails Haliburtion everywhere. His speed will be important for that though. Can Lewis guard 2s at 6'3 with a 6'5 wingspan? Haliburton has him by a couple inches on both.
I'll be surprised if Haliburton is there, so this is all probably moot anyway.
TheLogician wrote:bwgood77 wrote:TheLogician wrote:Haliburton doesn't really get to the line which I think is important for a lead ball handler. I think he would be a good fit as an off guard with Booker. He is a great defender and high % shooter even though his jump shot looked weird in college. I like Lewis' upside a little more since he can play on or off ball. He has to improve as an initiator but he is really young. It looks like he is beginning to fill out a little from those pre-draft videos.
One of the things always mentioned about Haliburton is his great ability to play on or off ball. He would make a great SG next to Rubio, with a much better 3pt ball than Lewis, and then also be the better PG when playing with Booker (who could also play off him as the SG when Booker handles).
I can get the bigger upside but it's only a year difference in age, and he trails Haliburtion everywhere. His speed will be important for that though. Can Lewis guard 2s at 6'3 with a 6'5 wingspan? Haliburton has him by a couple inches on both.
I'll be surprised if Haliburton is there, so this is all probably moot anyway.
Haliburton wasn't a guy to go get you a bucket, much more of a facilitator. I watched him struggle to score against quality opponents. I see him continuing this in the pros, not developing into a volume shooter or scorer. I definitely like his size, passing, and IQ. Those are his primary strengths.
bwgood77 wrote:TheLogician wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
One of the things always mentioned about Haliburton is his great ability to play on or off ball. He would make a great SG next to Rubio, with a much better 3pt ball than Lewis, and then also be the better PG when playing with Booker (who could also play off him as the SG when Booker handles).
I can get the bigger upside but it's only a year difference in age, and he trails Haliburtion everywhere. His speed will be important for that though. Can Lewis guard 2s at 6'3 with a 6'5 wingspan? Haliburton has him by a couple inches on both.
I'll be surprised if Haliburton is there, so this is all probably moot anyway.
Haliburton wasn't a guy to go get you a bucket, much more of a facilitator. I watched him struggle to score against quality opponents. I see him continuing this in the pros, not developing into a volume shooter or scorer. I definitely like his size, passing, and IQ. Those are his primary strengths.
I was talking about shooting. I am not concerned with guys going to get you a bucket. I don't like individual iso pull up scorers, or especially don't want more than one of them. Teams that win now may have one guy like that, but they moreso play team ball, moving the ball and taking the good shot. Too much one on one ball or trying to do things yourself gets you nowhere, particularly once you get to the playoffs.
I'm not saying Lewis does that, but that I'm not looking for a guy to go get me a bucket by himself....but a guy who knows how to play within the team concept.
TheLogician wrote:bwgood77 wrote:TheLogician wrote:
Haliburton wasn't a guy to go get you a bucket, much more of a facilitator. I watched him struggle to score against quality opponents. I see him continuing this in the pros, not developing into a volume shooter or scorer. I definitely like his size, passing, and IQ. Those are his primary strengths.
I was talking about shooting. I am not concerned with guys going to get you a bucket. I don't like individual iso pull up scorers, or especially don't want more than one of them. Teams that win now may have one guy like that, but they moreso play team ball, moving the ball and taking the good shot. Too much one on one ball or trying to do things yourself gets you nowhere, particularly once you get to the playoffs.
I'm not saying Lewis does that, but that I'm not looking for a guy to go get me a bucket by himself....but a guy who knows how to play within the team concept.
Don't we already have that in Rubio? I want a PG who is a go-to scorer. Ideally, anyway.
darealjuice wrote:This might be controversial, but I have a feeling Cole Anthony will be a guy that's going to be a mid-first round pick and break out right away. His efficiency wasn't impressive, but it's tough for a penetrating guard to score at the rim when you're playing in the ACC with 3 starters that shoot a collective 2.2 3-pointers per game at 27%, and the only other respectable shooter being a senior that really never broke the rotation until this year. You can see the knock down 3-point shooting, the ability to break down defenders and get shots for himself and his team, the athleticism, and that he gets to the line well. A way to see toughness in a guard is how they hit the boards, and he had 4 games with 10+ rebounds despite playing with 2 post players at nearly all times. Donovan Mitchell had similar efficiency problems at Louisville, and I think they're in the same vein of guys that have better skillsets for the spacing and style of play in the NBA.
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I guess this shouldn't be too surprising! I really hope that they get there guy in this draft!
Blonde wrote:Out of guys who I'm fairly confident will be available at 10, Lewis is by far my top choice of this class.
bwgood77 wrote:Blonde wrote:Out of guys who I'm fairly confident will be available at 10, Lewis is by far my top choice of this class.
I wonder if they'd take Lewis over Hayes. I am guessing with this post, it's assuming Hayes is gone at 10.