Lakers Targets - Free Agent Class 2020

[Kilroy]

Only way I do the CP3 thing is if we can extend him for like 12M/yr and trade him with Green... Not gutting the roster for cp3, even if they are all scrubs... It removes too much flexibility.

[TylersLakers]

Only way I do the CP3 thing is if we can extend him for like 12M/yr and trade him with Green... Not gutting the roster for cp3, even if they are all scrubs... It removes too much flexibility.

It's not really gutting the roster in my opinion. We'd be losing Green (oh well), Kuzma (sorry Kuz), Cook (w/e), Bradley (never had him in the bubble to begin with) and McGee (unplayable in playoffs) and a 1st round pick.

We'd have 2 exceptions to replace those players with: Full MLE and bi-annual exception.

We've already won a ring, I'd be willing to gamble on Chris Paul, who would fit like a glove.

[Beethoven]

^losing both kuzma and green is too much length in our defense lost. Our perimeter defense was more of a collective , by committee , defense that physically wasn't there although our mindset was. Losing that whatever length we have in kuzma and green would really diminish our perimeter no matter how bought-in the team is ..and we'll eventually have to wear down LeBron then to compensate.

[mcscotty]

Unlike a lot of Lakers fans, I have a deep respect for Chris Paul. I think he's still a top-3 PG in the league. With that said, he's not the guy for this team. Paul and Lebron would be a similar situation to Harden and Paul. CP3 needs the ball in his hands. He's just average off-ball. I'd much rather resign Rondo or pick up Teague in free agency.

[zuju]

We shall try to replace players for those who opt out and we do not have the cap space to offer them a satisfactory contract.

What do you think, shall we replace with similar style and impact or shall we replace with different style player?

Some viable choice
Dwight - Similar use/style: Marc Garsol / TT / Biyombo , Different Style: Christian Wood / Harry Giles / Ibaka / Whiteside / Zizic / Thon Maker

Morris - Similar use / style - Saric / Paul Millsap , Different Style - Favors, Camelo

KCP - Similar use / style: Torrey Craig / Lance Stephenson / Justin Holiday / Wesley Mathews /Bazemore / Countney Lee, Different Style: Josh Jackson / Evan Turner

Rondo - Similar use / style without D: Dragic, Different Style: Jeff Teague / Brandon Knight / Trey Burke

Trading: Mcgee and Cook to Houston for Danuel House or Covington or Tucker or a wing with decent defense. They got a cheap decent big men and we got a decent wing

Let go of Dion Waiters and JR, sign any 1 of Woods or Giles and 1 of Troy Craig / Lance Stephenson /Justin Holiday / Wesley Mathews /Bazemore / Josh Jackson / Evan Turner, even if all Dwight, KCP and Rondo are kept

[LAKESHOW]

I like Rondo over Paul because of age #1. And his game has improved under our coaching. He's also built a strong chemistry with our guys. And I've seen Bron defer to this dude and run the offense. And lastly, I've just watched him prove it about a week ago. His play already has the stamp of approval since I seen it with my own eyes.

[DanishLakerFan]

After we sign AD, let’s see how much money we have left. Until then, we won’t know how much we can spend on free agents.

I’d like to offer FVV four years for $80M and Meyers Leonard a three year deal for $45 but we’ll hit the cap before thinking about it. Then sign Rondo for the full MLE to say thanks for the championship.

Trading JMG, Kuzma, Green for Oladipo and McDermott would be a great move.

I’m expecting THT and Kostas to log meaningful minutes next season.

If KCP opts in, cool. If not, he’s not exactly the irreplaceable type.

Well, we pretty much know exactly what we have left after we sign AD: Nothing.
We have the full MLE which is about 10M.
We have the BAE which is about 3.8M.
We have the ability to re-sign KCP at whatever amount he wants because we own his bird rights.
We have the ability to do sign-and-trades with other teams.

So if you want to pay FVV 20M you're going to have to get Toronto to do a sign-and-trade and you need to send them about 16M in salaries. Meyers Leonard isn't getting 45M on the open market. We might get him far cheaper than that.

I would love to get FVV but he is likely staying in Toronto. Leonard is ok, but i would prefer just to re-sign Boogie.

[LAKESHOW]

According to some reports. The CAP is gonna shrink.

[Dmagic]

tim hardaway jr would be a great pick up imo and someone who could really develop under bron

[tamaraw08]

After we sign AD, let’s see how much money we have left. Until then, we won’t know how much we can spend on free agents.

I’d like to offer FVV four years for $80M and Meyers Leonard a three year deal for $45 but we’ll hit the cap before thinking about it. Then sign Rondo for the full MLE to say thanks for the championship.

Trading JMG, Kuzma, Green for Oladipo and McDermott would be a great move.

I’m expecting THT and Kostas to log meaningful minutes next season.

If KCP opts in, cool. If not, he’s not exactly the irreplaceable type.

Well, we pretty much know exactly what we have left after we sign AD: Nothing.
We have the full MLE which is about 10M.
We have the BAE which is about 3.8M.
We have the ability to re-sign KCP at whatever amount he wants because we own his bird rights.
We have the ability to do sign-and-trades with other teams.

So if you want to pay FVV 20M you're going to have to get Toronto to do a sign-and-trade and you need to send them about 16M in salaries. Meyers Leonard isn't getting 45M on the open market. We might get him far cheaper than that.

I would love to get FVV but he is likely staying in Toronto. Leonard is ok, but i would prefer just to re-sign Boogie.

Good post. The question is, how they spend this MLD AND BAE to meet their needs. What are the needs? This team somewhat crumbles when Lebron sits on the bench. IMO, they need that scoring playmaker who initiates the offense off the bench. Rondo is testing the market but there are not many teams that has the $ to pay him, and most of them like younger players and he would like not return to teams he didn't much success like Dallas, Kings etc.
CP3, would solve that need but he is so expensive and he has a history of getting injured.
One player many fans are ignoring is Morris. That guy shot great and were able to switch to the perimeter unlike DH and JMG.
Personally, I'll rather have him than DH and JMG but if he walks, who is a good alternative?
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[TylersLakers]

Windhorst and those guys released a new “Hoop Collective” podcast this morning where they speculated on potential trades that could happen.

One of them was exactly what I said in regards to Oladipo. Kuz, Green and 1st. Windhorst responded “that’s too much that the Lakers would be giving up.” Bontemps fired back and said “if I could get Oladipo for that, I’d do it in a heartbeat if I was the Lakers.” And I totally agree.

The trade is simple. Kuz, Green, Bradley, 1st for Oladipo, McDermott

We would then have a full MLE and bi-annual exception to use. Windhorst speculated about Gallinari taking a 1 year, 10M deal. Bontemps said Carmelo on a vet minimum. I like Harkless. You could realistically get all three of those guys with MLE (Gallo), bi-annual (Harkless) and Melo (vet min).

Oladipo/KCP/LeBron/AD/McGee with Gallo, Caruso, Harkless, Melo off the bench is a very nice 9 man rotation.

[TheHartBreakKid]

Would love to take the same approach next year that we did this year. Try to keep our own guys first via bird rights, MLE etc for reasonable one year deals. If players are getting long term deals or very inflated deals from other teams, then find a cheaper option.

While finding cheaper options with the same quality for the Center position will be nearly impossible, I believe Dwight and Mcgee are actually the easiest players to replace as they are the least important; We can win entire playoff series' without them playing much as demonstrated. As a result, as much as it would hurt, I wouldn't spend any valuable money trying to retain either one. I would offer a total 5-6 million to one of them (assuming Mcgee opts out) and replace the other one with a cheaper around minimum options. I believe if any of TT, Gasol, Ibaka, Boucher, Cauley Stein, Noel, Plumlee would be be fine a replacement. Can you get them for close to the minimum? They are all definitely worth more, but you just need one to want to raise their value dramatically after a year or to ring chase.


As for the guards, it will be nearly impossible to retain KCP and Rondo at the same price. More money can be freed up if we can dump cook or Bradley doesn't accept his team option due to COVID concerns, probably enough to keep both Rondo and KCP for atleast another year. Regarding replacements for the two, it gets pretty tough. This is where I hope the FO puts their focus on; retaining KCP and Rondo for reasonable deals, or focusing on finding solid replacements.


We might struggle a bit in the regular season if we downgrade mcgee and/or however, but as long as we have two capable bodies there, AD can play the 4 and be happy and we should still be fine overall. However, we absolute NEED a three and D wing playing the KCP role, and another playmaker off the bench (Rondo).


Regarding our potential free agents and how I would prioritize resigning them (or how I would allocate budget in finding their replacement):

1. KCP
2. Rondo
3. one of Dwight/Mcgee (mcgee is fine here if he opts in)
4. Morris
5. The other big playing the Dwight/Mcgee role (if Mcgee opts out as well)


Of course, the variables here are:

What kind of packages are available for Kuz?
Will Bradley opt in?
Can we dump cook?

[tamaraw08]

Windhorst and those guys released a new “Hoop Collective” podcast this morning where they speculated on potential trades that could happen.

One of them was exactly what I said in regards to Oladipo. Kuz, Green and 1st. Windhorst responded “that’s too much that the Lakers would be giving up.” Bontemps fired back and said “if I could get Oladipo for that, I’d do it in a heartbeat if I was the Lakers.” And I totally agree.

The trade is simple. Kuz, Green, Bradley, 1st for Oladipo, McDermott

We would then have a full MLE and bi-annual exception to use. Windhorst speculated about Gallinari taking a 1 year, 10M deal. Bontemps said Carmelo on a vet minimum. I like Harkless. You could realistically get all three of those guys with MLE (Gallo), bi-annual (Harkless) and Melo (vet min).

Oladipo/KCP/LeBron/AD/McGee with Gallo, Caruso, Harkless, Melo off the bench is a very nice 9 man rotation.

OMG, hard no on Oladipo. He is the modern day Carmelo Anthony. He is not a great defender, not a great passer, under 5 assists, not a great rebounder, doesn't go the line enough. We fans most of the time remember his clutch shots at Indiana but it's not like very efficient there anyway. 5 of 7 years, he has failed to hit above 36% from 3 pt area, hit just under 32% last year. Career 53.6 TS% compare that to Bradley who shot 53.7 last season with much better defense.

[king_james_vers]

Windhorst and those guys released a new “Hoop Collective” podcast this morning where they speculated on potential trades that could happen.

One of them was exactly what I said in regards to Oladipo. Kuz, Green and 1st. Windhorst responded “that’s too much that the Lakers would be giving up.” Bontemps fired back and said “if I could get Oladipo for that, I’d do it in a heartbeat if I was the Lakers.” And I totally agree.

The trade is simple. Kuz, Green, Bradley, 1st for Oladipo, McDermott

We would then have a full MLE and bi-annual exception to use. Windhorst speculated about Gallinari taking a 1 year, 10M deal. Bontemps said Carmelo on a vet minimum. I like Harkless. You could realistically get all three of those guys with MLE (Gallo), bi-annual (Harkless) and Melo (vet min).

Oladipo/KCP/LeBron/AD/McGee with Gallo, Caruso, Harkless, Melo off the bench is a very nice 9 man rotation.

Wow, that would be awesome. A lot would have to go right for that to happen but that'd be amazing.

[LAKESHOW]

Oladipo is a Good player. But....BUT...and this is the cynic, doubtful Haterade drinker in me..WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME INDY HAS EVER DEALT WITH US IN GOOD FAITH? I mean, sorry bout the tone my good friends and who are all members of the LAKER NATION. I just have Zero trust in Indy ever tryin to give us anything good. Theyve reported us in the past, they attempted to co** block us in previous times. I just don't believe they'll do it without somethin up their sleeve...Okay, back to regular programming. Sorry for the drinking.

[LakersSoul]

Guys, we have to forget about big FA or trades. This team won the ring and now we have to support Bron and Brow.

Key FA as signings or S&T:
1. Joe Harris
2. Justin Holiday or
3. More Harkless

Then draft:
1. T. Bey
2. Paul Reed or
3. McDaniels

We need shooters and 3&D wings. We add these guys, we will repeat.

[TylersLakers]

Oladipo is a Good player. But....BUT...and this is the cynic, doubtful Haterade drinker in me..WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME INDY HAS EVER DEALT WITH US IN GOOD FAITH? I mean, sorry bout the tone my good friends and who are all members of the LAKER NATION. I just have Zero trust in Indy ever tryin to give us anything good. Theyve reported us in the past, they attempted to co** block us in previous times. I just don't believe they'll do it without somethin up their sleeve...Okay, back to regular programming. Sorry for the drinking.

This is a valid point.

The deals they were throwing out were hilarious. Tim Hardaway and a second round pick. LOL.

[tugs]

Good point on the Indy deals. Something to consider.

As much as I believe Oladipo can bounce back, we're better off getting complementary players that can defend and shoot. I'm really high on Caruso as the spark off the bench that can do it all.

Clarkson would be great with his current play but no way with how he's accepted in Utah and the history with Bron.

[snaquille oatmeal]

Too lazy to go back and read to see if this was asked already so here it is: when does free agency start?
When can teams start bidding on players?

[stan francisco]

Clippers going after Rondo is nothing but a tactic to drive up the price for us. Rondo is a player that needs a good atmosphere to thrive. If you expect him to be the leader of your team, you are in trouble. Remember, he is hardly the most likable guy in his prior stops. I can't imagine how much tension he can cause in a clippers locker room with playoff P and kawhi. If they are willing to offer him huge money, let him go, he is just as likely to be a locker room cancer than anything else.

Brilliant point. Rondo is definitely capable of ruining a locker room if he doesn’t buy in.

I’m not worried, though. AD is gonna help us keep him here.