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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1801 » by robillionaire » Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:38 am

One way or another someone will be very embarrassed in a couple weeks. I’m not even pretending like I know what is going to happen. Polls point to a Biden win but they were wrong last time so I’m not trusting any of it until it’s done and nobody else should either.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1802 » by Cookies4Life » Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:44 am

BallSacBounce wrote:Some debate highlights.

For your pleasure.

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Also most people are fed up with the Corona restrictions and are well and ready to get back to living. The public has had enough. Let the sickly and elderly stay inside but it's time for the rest of us to get back to normal.

You can vote for Biden who is on board with restricting more or vote for Trump and get back to a normal life and live with a certain amount of danger like we always do when some new bug comes prancing around.

Biden is done. With all of his now public corruption even if he won he would never be sworn in as president. Too much of a national security risk.


I'm an Internal Medicine Physician. I have a feeling you have no background in the healthcare profession whatsoever. You clearly don't understand the virus and the complications that can arise in every age demographic and those with past medical histories and comorbidities. Someone with asthma can be hit hard by it, it's not just autoimmune disease processes like Diabetes Mellitus, exacerbation of COPD, recent surgery, recent cancer diagnosis (or subsequent treatment with chemotherapy and or/radiation that depletes one's immune system) or just the elderly population. This virus doesn't discriminate on age groups or severity of one's comorbidities. But based off your posts I know you don't have a modicum of understanding to any of this.

I've seen children being put on mechanical ventilation so there goes trump's absurd claim about kids not getting it because of their strong immune system. What that idiot doesn't know- as I'm sure you don't either- is that kids have a developing immune system that isn't fully developed until much later. Same as with your internal organs- you think the size of a 5 year old kids heart is the same as a 25 year old persons?

Sure, get back to a normal life and just play Russian Roulette with your health. Myopic and uneducated viewpoints such as the one you're spewing is the reason nearly a quarter million people are dead. Now he's trying to fast track medications that are already trying to be expedited way too quickly through 3 clinical trials before FDA approval which normally takes 7-10 years for any other pharmaceutical agent to be regulated and approved prior to mass distribution. Obviously this pandemic is such an exceptional situation thus I understand the reason for wanting to be steadfast, but people are forgetting the statistics aren't proven yet on these medications efficaciousness, and side effect profiles. They need to go through a series of test to prove their efficiency followed by a double blinded randomized trial of a large sample size to corroborate they work effectively and that the benefits outweigh the side effects.

I'm going to stop now since I know I'm wasting my time posting towards your nonsensical drivel. Good luck with resuming your "normal" life.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1803 » by Pointgod » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:25 am

robillionaire wrote:One way or another someone will be very embarrassed in a couple weeks. I’m not even pretending like I know what is going to happen. Polls point to a Biden win but they were wrong last time so I’m not trusting any of it until it’s done and nobody else should either.


It either ends predictably based on the stability of the polls the past couple of months or it ends close, probably in the courts. The media doesn’t want to call a boring predictable race, they want excitement, unpredictability, etc. That’s why you’re seeing all the hot takes about Dems in disarray. Not that Democrats should be over confident, but if they show up to vote, vote early and help get other people to vote for Biden the poll margins will probably be accurate. The polls weren’t wrong in 2016, only the narrative around them has been incorrect. And a lot of the mistakes in 2016 have since been corrected.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1804 » by Pointgod » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:29 am

Take from this what you will.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1805 » by Pointgod » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:42 am

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1806 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:48 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Are We There Yet?


"Now turning our Florida Correspondent, Clyde Style. Clyde, do you have sense of how the voting is going on down there?"


It's getting hot in Florida Wingo and I'm not talking about the sunshine. The steady stream of voters marching in to cast their ballots would seem to favor the Democratic vote according to our esteemed political analyst in Key West, J. Remi Buffet whose latest prognostication was Nibblin' on sponge cake, Watchin' the sun bake, All of those tourists covered with oil, Strummin' my six string on my front porch swing, Smell those shrimp, They're beginnin' to boil.


Thanks for the update Clyde. We'll be checking back in with you as head into the homestretch. And now a word from our commercial sponsors.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1807 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:49 am

Pointgod wrote:Take from this what you will.

Read on Twitter


It's unbelievable.

Over 60% of Biden voters are voting early. Over 50% of Trump's voters are voting on Election Day according to a poll I saw on MSNBC tonight.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1808 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:52 am

Pointgod wrote:Take from this what you will.

Read on Twitter


I don't have a source on this, but I believe that Trump is going to have to focus on Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Ohio.

Clyde has Florida under control.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1809 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:00 am

BallSacBounce wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:In Florida Biden is up 52 to 45.

Trafalgar has Trump up by 2 and Rasmussens poll today Trump by 4.

Florida is a lock for Trump. The Latinos will push that win. I posted the 30, 000 vehicle car rally for Trump in Miami that was followed up by a 75, 000 car rally that lasted 6 hours.

I think you take Wisconsin.

Pennsylvania was up for grabs but after yesterday's debate I think you lost it.

Michigan is going to Trump and so is Ohio.

Last election North Carolina Hillary was ahead by 7% in early/mail in voting going into election day and Trump won by 3%. You're only ahead by 3% there right now.

Your path is getting narrower.


I will admit that Florida is tight/within the margin of error.

I'd rather be in my shoes, than yours. :wink:
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1810 » by BallSacBounce » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:00 am

Cookies4Life wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:In Florida Biden is up 52 to 45.

Trafalgar has Trump up by 2 and Rasmussens poll today Trump by 4.

Florida is a lock for Trump. The Latinos will push that win. I posted the 30, 000 vehicle car rally for Trump in Miami that was followed up by a 75, 000 car rally that lasted 6 hours.

I think you take Wisconsin.

Pennsylvania was up for grabs but after yesterday's debate I think you lost it.

Michigan is going to Trump and so is Ohio.

Last election North Carolina Hillary was ahead by 7% in early/mail in voting going into election day and Trump won by 3%. You're only ahead by 3% there right now.

Your path is getting narrower.


The Democratic base is suffering from anxiety from what happened in 2016 when they thought Hillary was a shoe-in. They didn't anticipate several things such as Trump winning all the rustbelt states and how many undecided voters would vote for Donnie.

This cycle is much different. He's neck and neck with Biden in historically red states such as Arizona. Even Texas is rather close and that dam state tried to secede from the US before the Civil War. They're the epitome of a deep red state and Trump isn't holding a double digit lead like he was able to secure in 2016.

The fracking issue is cumbersome, but I don't believe Trump will be winning Pennsylvania this time around. Philadelphia absolutely hates his guts and Bucks County area has a very concentrated population compared to the rest of the state.

Florida is no lock for Trump either; while it may happen there's no veritable guarantee. If he does win, it'll be by a small margin.

You fail to see that almost every national poll has Biden ahead by double digits. I guess you're just living in a state of denial, which is fine I suppose. I believe you'll be the one who's in for a disappointment come November 3rd. There's many less undecided voters this time around and I think we can all assume who most of them will be voting for.

I don't know how anyone can hitch their wagon to that narcissistic sociopath. A president is supposed to be somewhat relatable to the american people- what exactly about that trust fund baby screams being relatable? He ran in 2016 as a Washington outsider- that I do agree with he looks like an individual that escaped from Bellevue hospital.

The day of reckoning is coming soon to the GOP. That includes the senate as well. Just make sure you post on here afterward, I look forward to reading more of your posts.

You have the same problem you had in 2016, you believe your own bull polls.

Again you won't learn and we'll be having this same discussion in 2024 when it's Pence vs. Whoever.

Well keep the Senate too. No idea about the House not paying any attention at all.

The Day of Reckoning will be for the Democratic Party. Republicans had their civil war and the Globalists lost, at least for now. You'll get yours soon. Right after you lose this election.

Gotta be the last rodeo or close to it for Nancy and the old guard. Gotta believe a successful challenge comes from her left next time.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1811 » by Pointgod » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:01 am

This is one reason to love AOC. She’s passionate about her beliefs but she gets the bigger picture.

https://www.newsweek.com/tactical-vote-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-urges-progressives-vote-biden-support-vulnerable-1541837

"I am casting this vote out of solidarity with our most marginalized and vulnerable communities," Ocasio-Cortez told actress and activist Jane Fonda in a Fire Drill Friday interview, an ongoing series about politics and climate change sponsored by the environmental group Greenpeace.

"I don't think anyone can really look at me in the eye and genuinely tell me that immigrants who are having forced hysterectomies, who are being put in cages and camps, who are being separated from their children in some of the largest human rights violations at [a] scale that we have seen in a very long time—I don't think anyone can look me in the eye and say that they won't be better off in a Biden administration, that they won't be more protected under a Biden administration," she said, according to The Hill.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1812 » by BallSacBounce » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:07 am

Cookies4Life wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:Some debate highlights.

For your pleasure.

Read on Twitter



Also most people are fed up with the Corona restrictions and are well and ready to get back to living. The public has had enough. Let the sickly and elderly stay inside but it's time for the rest of us to get back to normal.

You can vote for Biden who is on board with restricting more or vote for Trump and get back to a normal life and live with a certain amount of danger like we always do when some new bug comes prancing around.

Biden is done. With all of his now public corruption even if he won he would never be sworn in as president. Too much of a national security risk.


I'm an Internal Medicine Physician. I have a feeling you have no background in the healthcare profession whatsoever. You clearly don't understand the virus and the complications that can arise in every age demographic and those with past medical histories and comorbidities. Someone with asthma can be hit hard by it, it's not just autoimmune disease processes like Diabetes Mellitus, exacerbation of COPD, recent surgery, recent cancer diagnosis (or subsequent treatment with chemotherapy and or/radiation that depletes one's immune system) or just the elderly population. This virus doesn't discriminate on age groups or severity of one's comorbidities. But based off your posts I know you don't have a modicum of understanding to any of this.

I've seen children being put on mechanical ventilation so there goes trump's absurd claim about kids not getting it because of their strong immune system. What that idiot doesn't know- as I'm sure you don't either- is that kids have a developing immune system that isn't fully developed until much later. Same as with your internal organs- you think the size of a 5 year old kids heart is the same as a 25 year old persons?

Sure, get back to a normal life and just play Russian Roulette with your health. Myopic and uneducated viewpoints such as the one you're spewing is the reason nearly a quarter million people are dead. Now he's trying to fast track medications that are already trying to be expedited way too quickly through 3 clinical trials before FDA approval which normally takes 7-10 years for any other pharmaceutical agent to be regulated and approved prior to mass distribution. Obviously this pandemic is such an exceptional situation thus I understand the reason for wanting to be steadfast, but people are forgetting the statistics aren't proven yet on these medications efficaciousness, and side effect profiles. They need to go through a series of test to prove their efficiency followed by a double blinded randomized trial of a large sample size to corroborate they work effectively and that the benefits outweigh the side effects.

I'm going to stop now since I know I'm wasting my time posting towards your nonsensical drivel. Good luck with resuming your "normal" life.



I'm inside in crowded public places every day and could not give less of a **** about this virus.any.more than I would a very bad flu season. We've had 100,000 plus dead from the flu before.

I don't have any health issues. The people that do or the elderly sure go ahead and stay inside no one is trying to stop them.

Fact is this has a very low fatality rate for younger folks and is skewed more so than the flu towards the elderly. If you knew anything at all about this virus you would at least know that. The rest of us can go out and play.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1813 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:10 am

BallSacBounce wrote:
Cookies4Life wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:Trafalgar has Trump up by 2 and Rasmussens poll today Trump by 4.

Florida is a lock for Trump. The Latinos will push that win. I posted the 30, 000 vehicle car rally for Trump in Miami that was followed up by a 75, 000 car rally that lasted 6 hours.

I think you take Wisconsin.

Pennsylvania was up for grabs but after yesterday's debate I think you lost it.

Michigan is going to Trump and so is Ohio.

Last election North Carolina Hillary was ahead by 7% in early/mail in voting going into election day and Trump won by 3%. You're only ahead by 3% there right now.

Your path is getting narrower.


The Democratic base is suffering from anxiety from what happened in 2016 when they thought Hillary was a shoe-in. They didn't anticipate several things such as Trump winning all the rustbelt states and how many undecided voters would vote for Donnie.

This cycle is much different. He's neck and neck with Biden in historically red states such as Arizona. Even Texas is rather close and that dam state tried to secede from the US before the Civil War. They're the epitome of a deep red state and Trump isn't holding a double digit lead like he was able to secure in 2016.

The fracking issue is cumbersome, but I don't believe Trump will be winning Pennsylvania this time around. Philadelphia absolutely hates his guts and Bucks County area has a very concentrated population compared to the rest of the state.

Florida is no lock for Trump either; while it may happen there's no veritable guarantee. If he does win, it'll be by a small margin.

You fail to see that almost every national poll has Biden ahead by double digits. I guess you're just living in a state of denial, which is fine I suppose. I believe you'll be the one who's in for a disappointment come November 3rd. There's many less undecided voters this time around and I think we can all assume who most of them will be voting for.

I don't know how anyone can hitch their wagon to that narcissistic sociopath. A president is supposed to be somewhat relatable to the american people- what exactly about that trust fund baby screams being relatable? He ran in 2016 as a Washington outsider- that I do agree with he looks like an individual that escaped from Bellevue hospital.

The day of reckoning is coming soon to the GOP. That includes the senate as well. Just make sure you post on here afterward, I look forward to reading more of your posts.


You have the same problem you had in 2016, you believe your own bull polls.

Again you won't learn and we'll be having this same discussion in 2024 when it's Pence vs. Whoever.

Well keep the Senate too. No idea about the House not paying any attention at all.

The Day of Reckoning will be for the Democratic Party. Republicans had their civil war and the Globalists lost, at least for now. You'll get yours soon. Right after you lose this election.

Gotta be the last rodeo or close to it for Nancy and the old guard. Gotta believe a successful challenge comes from her left next time.


So, when your boy losses, you'll have a choice ...

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1814 » by Pointgod » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:33 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Pointgod wrote:Take from this what you will.

Read on Twitter


I don't have a source on this, but I believe that Trump is going to have to focus on Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Ohio.

Clyde has Florida under control.


Trump has all but given up in Michigan and Wisconsin. He’s going to double down Pennsylvania because that’s the one swing state he can’t afford to lose. The strategy is to protect Pennsylvania, Arizona, North Carolina, Florida especially and pray that Ohio, Georgia, Iowa or God forbid Texas doesn’t go the wrong way for him.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1815 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:55 am

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1816 » by robillionaire » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:03 am

Pointgod wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Pointgod wrote:Take from this what you will.

Read on Twitter


I don't have a source on this, but I believe that Trump is going to have to focus on Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Ohio.

Clyde has Florida under control.


Trump has all but given up in Michigan and Wisconsin. He’s going to double down Pennsylvania because that’s the one swing state he can’t afford to lose. The strategy is to protect Pennsylvania, Arizona, North Carolina, Florida especially and pray that Ohio, Georgia, Iowa or God forbid Texas doesn’t go the wrong way for him.


It's not a terrible strategy, but I don't think there's any other option
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1817 » by robillionaire » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:06 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Pointgod wrote:Take from this what you will.

Read on Twitter


It's unbelievable.

Over 60% of Biden voters are voting early. Over 50% of Trump's voters are voting on Election Day according to a poll I saw on MSNBC tonight.


I'm voting early in person on Sunday in NYC. My wife has never voted for a president before and she is voting in this election as well. Up until a few days ago I was truly on the fence between voting Biden or 3rd party, but I was ultimately convinced to vote for Biden as bad as I hate to do it, it has to be done. Spite will be my primary motivation. :lol:
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1818 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:10 am

Lou Hobbs telling South Carolinians to vote for Jaime Harrison instead of Lindsey Graham.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1819 » by BallSacBounce » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:12 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:In Florida Biden is up 52 to 45.

Trafalgar has Trump up by 2 and Rasmussens poll today Trump by 4.

Florida is a lock for Trump. The Latinos will push that win. I posted the 30, 000 vehicle car rally for Trump in Miami that was followed up by a 75, 000 car rally that lasted 6 hours.

I think you take Wisconsin.

Pennsylvania was up for grabs but after yesterday's debate I think you lost it.

Michigan is going to Trump and so is Ohio.

Last election North Carolina Hillary was ahead by 7% in early/mail in voting going into election day and Trump won by 3%. You're only ahead by 3% there right now.

Your path is getting narrower.


I will admit that Florida is tight/within the margin of error.

I'd rather be in my shoes, than yours. :wink:

I'd rather be in mine.

If the polls "tighten" up again and Trump wins will you believe the polls again in 2024?

I don't think they tighten up this time. They're going for broke their credibility will be shot either way. Then again they didn't tighten up last time they just started sampling and weighting legitimately. I saw it coming the whole **** way cuz I like numbers and I like figuring **** out that involves numbers and reading between the lines.

As we get down to the nitty gritty keep in mind that the Republicans lead in new registrations in the battleground states by a large margin.

Also, Gallup's last poll had 28% identifying as Republicans and 27% identifying as Democrats. First time we lead since 2004. Are these polls you pay attention to sampling and weighting accordingly? Nah, they're not.

And Republicans are significantly more enthusiastic about voting that one has been noted here.

There are other ways to put out a poll that looks legit but is soft, soft, soft. They do it to influence opinion not note it, everyone wants to be on a winner and to surpress the vote for the perceived loser.

And Gallup had a poll with 56% saying they were better off now than they were 4 years ago. And that's during a pandemic! It was 61% before that.

Yeah, they are not getting rid of the guy that did that for them because of his personality. There are livelihoods and retirement funds at stake. That is only the highest number they have ever recorded for an incumbent seeking re-election.

Clinton had 50%, GW 47%, Obama 45%, Bush Sr. had 38% and lost, Reagan had 44%.

He's going to win again.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1820 » by BallSacBounce » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:
Cookies4Life wrote:
The Democratic base is suffering from anxiety from what happened in 2016 when they thought Hillary was a shoe-in. They didn't anticipate several things such as Trump winning all the rustbelt states and how many undecided voters would vote for Donnie.

This cycle is much different. He's neck and neck with Biden in historically red states such as Arizona. Even Texas is rather close and that dam state tried to secede from the US before the Civil War. They're the epitome of a deep red state and Trump isn't holding a double digit lead like he was able to secure in 2016.

The fracking issue is cumbersome, but I don't believe Trump will be winning Pennsylvania this time around. Philadelphia absolutely hates his guts and Bucks County area has a very concentrated population compared to the rest of the state.

Florida is no lock for Trump either; while it may happen there's no veritable guarantee. If he does win, it'll be by a small margin.

You fail to see that almost every national poll has Biden ahead by double digits. I guess you're just living in a state of denial, which is fine I suppose. I believe you'll be the one who's in for a disappointment come November 3rd. There's many less undecided voters this time around and I think we can all assume who most of them will be voting for.

I don't know how anyone can hitch their wagon to that narcissistic sociopath. A president is supposed to be somewhat relatable to the american people- what exactly about that trust fund baby screams being relatable? He ran in 2016 as a Washington outsider- that I do agree with he looks like an individual that escaped from Bellevue hospital.

The day of reckoning is coming soon to the GOP. That includes the senate as well. Just make sure you post on here afterward, I look forward to reading more of your posts.


You have the same problem you had in 2016, you believe your own bull polls.

Again you won't learn and we'll be having this same discussion in 2024 when it's Pence vs. Whoever.

Well keep the Senate too. No idea about the House not paying any attention at all.

The Day of Reckoning will be for the Democratic Party. Republicans had their civil war and the Globalists lost, at least for now. You'll get yours soon. Right after you lose this election.

Gotta be the last rodeo or close to it for Nancy and the old guard. Gotta believe a successful challenge comes from her left next time.


So, when your boy losses, you'll have a choice ...


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