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2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1841 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:30 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Anyone proposing herd immunity as a solution is off their rocker, doesn’t know shyt from Shinola, and shouldn’t be posting here. You obviously know nothing about the subject matter and is here to waste our fcking time.

If you propose herd immunity one more time, BallSac, I’m going to recommend that we - as a group - put you on IGNORE.


but I thought you wuv that Trump ball licker?

MAGAs think anyone who worries about covid is a wuss. It is not only downright stupid, it is fundamentally lacking in conscience for the consequences of those they are spreading the virus to. They just don't care about who dies or gets lifelong health complications from it while also wanting to kill Obamacare in the middle of a pandemic with no health care replacement

They don't care about you at all. They are not your friend
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1842 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:35 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Anyone proposing herd immunity as a solution is off their rocker, doesn’t know shyt from Shinola, and shouldn’t be posting here. You obviously know nothing about the subject matter and is here to waste our fcking time.

If you propose herd immunity one more time, BallSac, I’m going to recommend that we - as a group - put you on IGNORE.


but I thought you wuv that Trump ball licker?

MAGAs think anyone who worries about covid is a wuss. It is not only downright stupid, it is fundamentally lacking in conscience for the consequences of those they are spreading the virus to. They just don't care about who dies or gets lifelong health complications from it while also wanting to kill Obamacare in the middle of a pandemic with no health care replacement

They don't care about you at all. They are not your friend


It’s just plain ignorance. Cookies4Life is physician of internal medicine and BallSac, who clearly is not, thinks he knows more than about the virus than him. He’s fcking delusional.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1843 » by Cookies4Life » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:36 pm

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I'm an Internal Medicine Physician. I have a feeling you have no background in the healthcare profession whatsoever. You clearly don't understand the virus and the complications that can arise in every age demographic and those with past medical histories and comorbidities. Someone with asthma can be hit hard by it, it's not just autoimmune disease processes like Diabetes Mellitus, exacerbation of COPD, recent surgery, recent cancer diagnosis (or subsequent treatment with chemotherapy and or/radiation that depletes one's immune system) or just the elderly population. This virus doesn't discriminate on age groups or severity of one's comorbidities. But based off your posts I know you don't have a modicum of understanding to any of this.

I've seen children being put on mechanical ventilation so there goes trump's absurd claim about kids not getting it because of their strong immune system. What that idiot doesn't know- as I'm sure you don't either- is that kids have a developing immune system that isn't fully developed until much later. Same as with your internal organs- you think the size of a 5 year old kids heart is the same as a 25 year old persons?

Sure, get back to a normal life and just play Russian Roulette with your health. Myopic and uneducated viewpoints such as the one you're spewing is the reason nearly a quarter million people are dead. Now he's trying to fast track medications that are already trying to be expedited way too quickly through 3 clinical trials before FDA approval which normally takes 7-10 years for any other pharmaceutical agent to be regulated and approved prior to mass distribution. Obviously this pandemic is such an exceptional situation thus I understand the reason for wanting to be steadfast, but people are forgetting the statistics aren't proven yet on these medications efficaciousness, and side effect profiles. They need to go through a series of test to prove their efficiency followed by a double blinded randomized trial of a large sample size to corroborate they work effectively and that the benefits outweigh the side effects.

I'm going to stop now since I know I'm wasting my time posting towards your nonsensical drivel. Good luck with resuming your "normal" life.


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And that's not even subtracting out comorbidities which if you have I said you should stay hone. Fact is younger people have very little reason to worry.

Let's see what happens when we subtract out comorbidities shall we?

CDC: 94% of Covid-19 deaths had underlying medical conditions

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-94percent-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions/ar-BB18wrA7

According to the CDC 9683 died in the United States with only having COVID-19 listed on their death certificate.


Oh wow well will you look at that. That 200,000 is now 9,683 if you don't have any underlying health issues. This just isn't that big of a deal unless you are elderly and/or have underlying health issues. Usually for the elderly they do.

I couldn't give a **** less about it.


I appreciate you utilizing statistics to make it seem like it's a benign disease but I can tell you first hand those that get hospitalized with it show varying degrees of severity.

The first time I saw a Computed Tomography of the chest with an idividual prior to him being put on mechanical ventilation, you'd think he was suffering from some chronic respiratory illness akin to Sarcoidosis or long term Tuberculosis. There were bilateral interstitial infiltrates which didn't look like it came from someone stricken from the disease just a few days earlier, it looks like a chronic respiratory disease.

Let me explain to you in layman's term what the major issue is- this is a novel virus which means it's brand new and we're learning more about it as the months go by. We just realized as healthcare professionals that Polymerase Chain Reaction testing (PCR) has the highest level of sensitivity and specificity to diagnose or rule out the virus.

We have no idea if it has any mutative properties, thus a vaccine might not confer lifelong immunity towards it like many other vaccines we give to children.

If the things mutates, especially severe mutations to its genetic trait, we're dealing with something that can be highly fatal. There's a reason why we give influenza vaccines annually to the population, it's because it makes slight mutations to it's DNA strands on an annual basis followed by a major mutation usually within 15-20 years. Those end up usually becoming endemic and epidemic towards regions.

I'm not making this out to be as fatal as the Ebola virus because clearly it's not. There's many people that don't even know they have it because they're asymptomatic. The problem is they walk around assuming they're not infected and stay in relatively close quarters to individuals that are considered high risk- the riskiest populations being the elderly over 65 years of age and those with chronic respiratory conditions (i.e. COPD such as chronic asthma/emphysema, restrictive fibrosis and lung cancers such as squamous cell and small cell carcinoma of the lung,) and depleted immune systems from chronic infections, cancers (including treatment with radiotherapy/chemotherapy) and recent surgery.

You have a very passive, cruiser cavalier attitude towards this virus and your thought process is aligned with our president- 2 individuals that have no idea what they're talking about. The fact that Trump speaks about individuals in a berating manner like Dr. Fauci- a well respected physician who is one of the leaders in the National Institute of Health just screams a level of arrogance and ignorance that this country doesn't need to follow during these dire times.

I can't corroborate the statistics you threw, as I mentioned before it's going to be relatively benign to asymptomatic in most people that get infected- but why take any risks at this juncture? Simple prophylactic provisions such as washing one's hands, remaining socially distant and wearing facemasks ensure a higher level of probability to avoid getting infected.

To call it just a "bug" that's an inconvenience is absolutely irresponsible on your part. Shame on you. I'm not trying to pile on in my criticism towards you but if more people think in the manner you do, the fatality rates will surely be skyrocketing soon.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1844 » by Pointgod » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:38 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:‘Warning flare’: New swing-state data shows massive Democratic early-vote lead

In a worrisome sign for Republicans, Democrats are also turning out more low-frequency and newly registered voters than the GOP.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/23/early-voting-numbers-swing-states-431363
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Democrats have opened up a yawning gap in early voting over Republicans in six of the most crucial battleground states — but that only begins to tell the story of their advantage heading into Election Day.

In a more worrisome sign for Republicans, Democrats are also turning out more low-frequency and newly registered voters than the GOP, according to internal data shared with POLITICO by Hawkfish, a new Democratic research firm, which was reviewed by Republicans and independent experts.

The turnout data does not mean Donald Trump will lose to Joe Biden. Both sides are bracing for a close race and a giant wave of Republicans to vote in person on Nov. 3. Yet the turnout disparity with new and less-reliable voters has forced Republican political operatives to take notice.

“It’s a warning flare,” said veteran Republican strategist Scott Reed.

“Some Republicans are stuck in a model that we always run up the score on Election Day to make up the difference,” Reed said. “I think running an election in a superpolarized electorate, you want to win early voting. Let’s go. Let’s stop talking and making excuses.”

The GOP caught an encouraging glimpse in Florida on Tuesday, when more Republicans began casting in-person, early ballots than Democrats in Trump’s must-win state. But Democrats have dominated voting by mail and on Thursday held a historic lead in total pre-Election Day ballots cast of 463,000, or 10 percentage points, according to the state’s Division of Elections. Gov. Ron DeSantis this week urged Republicans to vote early in person, a message Trump plans to echo on Saturday, when he’s expected to call on his base to get to the polls.

At a glance, the top-line Democratic margins also look huge in Arizona (16 percentage points), Michigan (24 points), North Carolina (14 points), Pennsylvania (46 points), and Wisconsin (22), according to the analysis from Hawkfish, which is funded by billionaire Michael Bloomberg, a Trump foe.

Though the numbers look good for Democrats, they're not cause for complacency for Hawkfish’s CEO, Josh Mendelsohn, who echoes Republicans in saying that he expects high-propensity Trump voters to increasingly show up in force. Compared with Republicans, Democrats are exhausting far more of their high-propensity voters and the margins are expected to start tightening, as they have in Florida.

"Democrats are enthused, that's clear," Mendelsohn said, cautioning against a heavy reliance on forecasting models showing the likelihood of a Biden win.

“I find that folks want these models to be forecasts, and they want the forecasts to be like a hurricane forecast and just to be perfect,” Mendelsohn said. “And it's not, because it is like hurricanes, you've got a whole bunch of model tracks, of which some are more reliable than others in certain circumstances.”

With 11 days left until the election, time appears to be Trump’s enemy more than Biden’s.

“The concerning thing for Republicans is that once a Democrat vote is cast, or once a vote is cast in general, it can't be taken back,” said Chris Wilson, a top Republican data analyst who independently reviewed the Hawkfish numbers for POLITICO. “That to me is the bigger issue here: Our window to message and convert any of these voters away from voting Democrat is shorter than the number of days left in the campaign.”

Wilson compared the situation to an analysis for a battleground congressional district he has consulted for in which the Republican leads by a point, but Democrats have poured it on so heavily in early voting that his candidate needs to win Election Day by huge proportions.

“Great news. We lead [in the polls]. But if you look at the early vote, we have to win 2-to-1 on Election Day,” Wilson said. “And that's probably just about every contested race in America.”

While the campaigns and consultants are monitoring the ballots counted by party, the votes will not be tabulated until Election Day, and not every Democrat is voting for Biden nor every Republican for Trump. With some variations, battleground polling indicates each is pulling roughly the same number of votes from his base when averaged out, but Biden has a slight edge among independents, which could prove decisive.

With 47 million votes already cast nationwide in more than half the states, according to the U.S. Election Project, and as many 100 million more or so to go, the election is now being decided. But more than elsewhere, the presidency is expected to hinge on these six states. Here’s what they look like as of now, based on state data and Hawkfish’s analysis. It uses publicly available election data, and ascribes scores to voters that are based on demographic research to determine their likely level of support for a candidate:

Arizona

Total ballots cast of 4 million registered voters: 1.1 million for which Hawkfish has support scores. Biden: 58 percent. Trump: 42 percent.

Ballots cast by newly registered voters: 75,000. Biden: 57 percent. Trump: 43

2020 Ballots cast by sporadic voters (registered in 2016 and 2018 but didn’t vote): 41,000. Biden: 54 percent. Trump: 46 percent.

Democratic takeaway: Polls show Biden leading as well as Democratic Senate candidate Mark Kelly. Compared with 2016, Democratic returns are 74 percent higher while Republican returns are up 29 percent.

Josh Zaragoza (D), Javelina Strategies: "Both Biden and Kelly have been up in virtually every poll — significantly up in many of those polls. This only reinforces that this is the most favorable political environment for Democrats since 2008 and perhaps ever in Arizona — or at least in the 21st century."

Republican takeaway: More than 200,000 conservatives who either refused to vote in the presidential race in 2016, voted for the Libertarian candidate or voted for write-in candidates have come home to Trump now that he has a record appointing conservative judges and cutting taxes.

Sean Noble (R), Encore Strategies: “That Democrats are turning in ballots at a higher rate than Republicans is not a surprise, because Republicans as a bloc are less confident in the mail system ... Republicans are also more concerned about fraud. ... So they will either show up on Election Day and vote in person or they will show up and drop off the ballot in person.”

Florida

Total ballots cast of 14.4 million registered voters: 4.2 million for whom Hawkfish has support scores. Biden: 56 percent. Trump: 44 percent.

Ballots cast by newly registered voters: 422,000. Biden: 55 percent. Trump: 45 percent.

Ballots cast by sporadic voters: 174,000. Biden: 53 percent. Trump: 47 percent.

Republican takeaway: The Republican Party of Florida has 470,000 more high-propensity voters than Democrats who have yet to vote. The Democratic Party also traditionally has more sporadic and newly registered voters as a share of their electorate, so the numbers aren’t out of whack.

Tim Baker (R), Data Targeting: “The absentee and early voting numbers for Democrats are seemingly a reflection of their most reliable voters shifting voting methods and ultimately a cannibalization of voting method and not necessarily a turnout indicator at this stage. We are encouraged by the increase in Republican voter registration and the enthusiasm we are seeing across the state."

Democratic takeaway: No party has ever jumped to a lead like Democrats have in pre-Election Day voting. Factoring in independents, who are largely composed of No Party Affiliation, Biden appears to be winning the swing voters of the swing state.

Kevin Cate (D), CATECOMM: “The Republican spin on turnout and the enthusiasm gap sounds a lot like the Democratic spin in cycles where Democrats lost the top of the ticket. If you cut through it, Democratic turnout is unprecedentedly quick, large, and new — and so is No Party Affiliation turnout.”

Michigan

Total ballots cast of 8.1 million registered voters: 1.8 million for whom Hawkfish has support scores. Biden: 62 percent. Trump: 38 percent.

Ballots cast by newly registered voters: 139,000. Biden: 63 percent. Trump: 37 percent.

Ballots cast by sporadic voters: 96,000. Biden: 53 percent. Trump 47 percent.

Democratic takeaway: While Michigan does not have hard party registration figures like most other states, internal Democratic modeling gives Biden an edge so far.

Steve Pontoni (D), political consultant: "The number that’s most interesting to me is that as of (Wednesday morning) over 250,000 people have voted who did not vote in 2016 and that’s 23 percent of people who have already voted. And the average age is in the high 50s, and when we model them, it’s a strong Biden constituency from what we can see.”

Republican takeaway: Though the Democratic lead before Election Day is big, Republicans are counting on strong white working-class support for Trump and relatively low Black voter enthusiasm for Biden in urban areas.

John Sellek (R), Harbor Strategic in Michigan: “Polling here shows Biden leading amongst those who voted early so far, yet we are consistently seeing Republican voters expressing slightly higher excitement about voting than Democrats. We are also seeing Republicans conducting voter registration in blue-collar areas that's never been possible before. ... However, if turnout is over 5 million, which would break Michigan's 2008 record, it becomes very difficult to find enough Republicans to keep up at the statewide level.”

North Carolina

Total ballots cast of 7.3 million registered voters: 2.1 million for whom Hawkfish has support scores. Biden: 57 percent. Trump: 43 percent.

Ballots cast by newly registered voters: 148,000. Biden: 60 percent. Trump: 40 percent.

Ballots cast by sporadic voters: 61,000. Biden: 51 percent. Trump: 49 percent.

Republican takeaway: Even when Democrats have won early voting in past elections, a surge of Election Day votes has powered Republicans to victory. And while they’re being trounced in mail ballots, the first few days of early in-person voting have been stunningly high for Republicans, already helping close the gap.

Patrick Sebastian (R), Majority Strategies and nephew of former Gov. Pat McCrory: "Right now, it's really about even, as far as both parties having their Election Day voters vote early this year. So I think that's a good thing. I think it is going to all hinge on, though, low-propensity voters.”

Democratic takeaway: Early voting has always favored Democrats in the Tar Heel State, where they’re expected to build out a lead. Democrats are returning mail votes at a significantly greater clip than Republicans, and there are drastically more people voting early than years’ past.

Morgan Jackson (D), Nexus Strategies: “Democrats currently have a pretty broad advantage, not only in registration, but looking at who the unaffiliated voters are that are voting. They're much more urban, and suburban unaffiliated, that are college educated. And that has been a very good demographic for Democrats, not only in North Carolina, but all across the country.”

Pennsylvania

Total ballots cast of 9 million registered voters: 1.2 million for whom Hawkfish has support scores. Biden: 73 percent. Trump: 27 percent.

Ballots cast by newly registered voters: 57,000. Biden: 72 percent. Trump: 28 percent.

Ballots cast by sporadic voters: 88,000. Biden: 64 percent. Trump: 36 percent.

Democratic takeaway: Pennsylvania has slowly drifted from the president in polling and his handling of coronavirus came at the worst time for him.

Neil Oxman (D), The Campaign Group: "When Trump started acting more normally in the summer, he regained ground. But then you had this complete meltdown starting with the debate and him getting Covid and at that point ... people started voting.”

Republican takeaway: The rural areas of Pennsylvania where Trump dominated in 2016 are still highly enthusiastic.

Charlie Gerow (R), Quantum Communications: “There is an army of red-hat wearing folks that are marking their calendar for Nov. 3. They’re champing at the bit. You saw that with his rally in Erie this week. He has these gigantic crowds, enormous, in places where you wouldn’t expect to see a dozen people.”

Wisconsin

Total ballots cast of 3.6 million registered voters: 844,000 for whom Hawkfish has support scores. Biden: 61 percent. Trump: 39 percent.

Ballots cast by newly registered voters: 66,000. Biden: 61 percent. Trump: 39 percent.

Ballots cast by sporadic voters: 10,000. Biden: 53 percent. Trump: 47 percent.

Republican takeaway: The numbers on early voting and polling don’t tell the whole story of Wisconsin. Rural whites are often undersampled in surveys and data on early votes aren’t always reported because smalltown clerks don’t have the resources to quickly process and report the information to the state.

Keith Gilkes (R), the Champion Group in Wisconsin: “In the past year or more, we've held more registration events and had more new registrations in rural parts of the state that Donald Trump won compared to what Hillary Clinton won. So, we have an influx of new voters and new registrants as well. If there’s a slight uptick in white non-college educated in the rural areas of the state, it’s hard to account for that in polls. People take this state for granted all the time, and it comes back to bite them in the ass, which Hillary Clinton learned.”

Democratic takeaway: Coronavirus cases are on the rise in Wisconsin, along with voter anger at Trump’s handling of it.

Sachin Chheda (D), Nation Consulting in Wisconsin: “Nobody's talking about Kenosha. They're talking about Covid. They're talking about these coronavirus numbers. And if you are a Republican counting on an in-person vote on Nov. 3, with the coronavirus numbers spiking, the chances of people showing up to vote are lower, especially if your base is older or more likely to get sick. They have to make up a huge deficit on Election Day in the middle of the biggest pandemic the country has seen in 100 years.”


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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1845 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:51 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
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HarthorneWingo wrote:Anyone proposing herd immunity as a solution is off their rocker, doesn’t know shyt from Shinola, and shouldn’t be posting here. You obviously know nothing about the subject matter and is here to waste our fcking time.

If you propose herd immunity one more time, BallSac, I’m going to recommend that we - as a group - put you on IGNORE.


but I thought you wuv that Trump ball licker?

MAGAs think anyone who worries about covid is a wuss. It is not only downright stupid, it is fundamentally lacking in conscience for the consequences of those they are spreading the virus to. They just don't care about who dies or gets lifelong health complications from it while also wanting to kill Obamacare in the middle of a pandemic with no health care replacement

They don't care about you at all. They are not your friend


It’s just plain ignorance. Cookies4Life is physician of internal medicine and BallSac, who clearly is not, thinks he knows more than about the virus than him. He’s fcking delusional.


It is more than just ignorance though. It is politicized willful ignorance based on what they want in defiance of science. That's dangerous in the hands of the wrong people like a president or his followers who choose to spread a virus out of hubris. And that means they don't give a crap about your health. Message board fist bumps don't make them relatable if their bottom-line is so murderous.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1846 » by robillionaire » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:55 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
but I thought you wuv that Trump ball licker?

MAGAs think anyone who worries about covid is a wuss. It is not only downright stupid, it is fundamentally lacking in conscience for the consequences of those they are spreading the virus to. They just don't care about who dies or gets lifelong health complications from it while also wanting to kill Obamacare in the middle of a pandemic with no health care replacement

They don't care about you at all. They are not your friend


It’s just plain ignorance. Cookies4Life is physician of internal medicine and BallSac, who clearly is not, thinks he knows more than about the virus than him. He’s fcking delusional.


It is more than just ignorance though. It is politicized willful ignorance based on what they want in defiance of science. That's dangerous in the hands of the wrong people like a president or his followers who choose to spread a virus out of hubris. And that means they don't give a crap about your health. Message board fist bumps don't make them relatable if their bottom-line is so murderous.


what it is, is Dunning-Kruger effect, this country is currently suffering from a terminal case of it
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1847 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:57 pm

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1849 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:58 pm



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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1850 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:09 pm

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It’s just plain ignorance. Cookies4Life is physician of internal medicine and BallSac, who clearly is not, thinks he knows more than about the virus than him. He’s fcking delusional.


It is more than just ignorance though. It is politicized willful ignorance based on what they want in defiance of science. That's dangerous in the hands of the wrong people like a president or his followers who choose to spread a virus out of hubris. And that means they don't give a crap about your health. Message board fist bumps don't make them relatable if their bottom-line is so murderous.


what it is, is Dunning-Kruger effect, this country is currently suffering from a terminal case of it


One of the core traits I've observed is googling together random data in an attempt to look smart. It is, of course, also one of the key trolling tactics to grab officious looking data and throw it against the wall and then demand a rebuttal while it slides down the wall.

MAGA culture suffers from a massive inferiority complex. It usually manifests in a few distinct ways, either trying to be a know-it-all when you clearly aren't, unilateral theatrical outrage over manufactured offenses, angry denunciations of any facts that don't support der fuhrer, going down conspiratorial rabbit holes or just gloating over having power.

All of the above is super-charged by Dunning-Kruger. It does appear that between 30-40% of Americans have reached the clinical stages of it where they either overestimate their own intelligence or simply cannot comprehend superior reasoning if it clashes with their cult's world view.

So you could say the American body politic has significant co-morbidities that could be fatal to democracy if it trends higher to the point that close to half of the population is too stupid to know it is stupid.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1851 » by Cookies4Life » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:15 pm

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I'm an Internal Medicine Physician. I have a feeling you have no background in the healthcare profession whatsoever. You clearly don't understand the virus and the complications that can arise in every age demographic and those with past medical histories and comorbidities. Someone with asthma can be hit hard by it, it's not just autoimmune disease processes like Diabetes Mellitus, exacerbation of COPD, recent surgery, recent cancer diagnosis (or subsequent treatment with chemotherapy and or/radiation that depletes one's immune system) or just the elderly population. This virus doesn't discriminate on age groups or severity of one's comorbidities. But based off your posts I know you don't have a modicum of understanding to any of this.

I've seen children being put on mechanical ventilation so there goes trump's absurd claim about kids not getting it because of their strong immune system. What that idiot doesn't know- as I'm sure you don't either- is that kids have a developing immune system that isn't fully developed until much later. Same as with your internal organs- you think the size of a 5 year old kids heart is the same as a 25 year old persons?

Sure, get back to a normal life and just play Russian Roulette with your health. Myopic and uneducated viewpoints such as the one you're spewing is the reason nearly a quarter million people are dead. Now he's trying to fast track medications that are already trying to be expedited way too quickly through 3 clinical trials before FDA approval which normally takes 7-10 years for any other pharmaceutical agent to be regulated and approved prior to mass distribution. Obviously this pandemic is such an exceptional situation thus I understand the reason for wanting to be steadfast, but people are forgetting the statistics aren't proven yet on these medications efficaciousness, and side effect profiles. They need to go through a series of test to prove their efficiency followed by a double blinded randomized trial of a large sample size to corroborate they work effectively and that the benefits outweigh the side effects.

I'm going to stop now since I know I'm wasting my time posting towards your nonsensical drivel. Good luck with resuming your "normal" life.


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And that's not even subtracting out comorbidities which if you have I said you should stay hone. Fact is younger people have very little reason to worry.

Let's see what happens when we subtract out comorbidities shall we?

CDC: 94% of Covid-19 deaths had underlying medical conditions

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-94percent-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions/ar-BB18wrA7

According to the CDC 9683 died in the United States with only having COVID-19 listed on their death certificate.


Oh wow well will you look at that. That 200,000 is now 9,683 if you don't have any underlying health issues. This just isn't that big of a deal unless you are elderly and/or have underlying health issues. Usually for the elderly they do.

I couldn't give a **** less about it.


The CDC is highly reputable, but those statistics seem inaccurate to me.

What I will do sir is tomorrow when I have some free time I'll scour the NEJM and JAMA- the 2 most reputable literary sources that physicians utilize- and let you know if those statistics are accurate.

On a side note, and I really mean this, I'll be more than happy to have you come in as a guest at where I work in Long Island. I'm currently working in a locum tenens position at North Shore LIJ (Northwell.) I'll have you come in as a visitor and you'll be my medical student shadowing me for the day. You can make your own inferences on how this is just an inconvenient bug by just rounding with me for the day.

I'm about to watch UFC right now, I've been waiting on the Khabib fight for a few months. Try to avoid calling me a knucklehead if you can, that's unnecessary and you're just doubling down on your ignorance. I mean it also about shadowing me fore a day- I'm currently staying down in the poconos in my vacation home but I go up to Long Island twice a week. Feel free to PM me anytime.

**Edit- I do want to mention one more thing- by your own statistics, you even see how those numbers skyrocket with individuals with combordities. You would have no idea if you're asymptomatic as those devoid of any past medical history won't even know they're stricken with the virus. The moment you're in close quarters with someone that DOES have a past medical history that puts them in a higher risk bracket, you're essentially putting their life at risk.

That's my major issue with your posts. Calling it just an inconvenient bug and wanting to open up small businesses and schools would put a lot of people with current medical issues at risk. It's best for everyone to follow the protocols put in place by the CDC*** Be a little empathetic with your fellow countrymen.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1853 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:23 pm

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BallSacBounce wrote:Oh wow well will you look at that. That 200,000 is now 9,683 if you don't have any underlying health issues. This just isn't that big of a deal unless you are elderly and/or have underlying health issues. Usually for the elderly they do.

I couldn't give a **** less about it.


The CDC is highly reputable, but those statistics seem inaccurate to me.

What I will do sir is tomorrow when I have some free time I'll scour the NEJM and JAMA- the 2 most reputable literary sources that physicians utilize- and let you know if those statistics are accurate.

On a side note, and I really mean this, I'll be more than happy to have you come in as a guest at where I work in Long Island. I'm currently working in a locum tenens position at North Shore LIJ (Northwell.) I'll have you come in as a visitor and you'll be my medical student shadowing me for the day. You can make your own inferences on how this is just an inconvenient bug by just rounding with me for the day.

I'm about to watch UFC right now, I've been waiting on the Khabib fight for a few months. Try to avoid calling me a knucklehead if you can, that's unnecessary and you're just doubling down on your ignorance. I mean it also about shadowing me fore a day- I'm currently staying down in the poconos in my vacation home but I go up to Long Island twice a week. Feel free to PM me anytime.

**Edit- I do want to mention one more thing- by your own statistics, you even see how those numbers skyrocket with individuals with combordities. You would have no idea if you're asymptomatic as those devoid of any past medical history won't even know they're stricken with the virus. The moment you're in close quarters with someone that DOES have a past medical history that puts them in a higher risk bracket, you're essentially putting their life at risk.

That's my major issue with your posts. Calling it just an inconvenient bug and wanting to open up small businesses and schools would put a lot of people with current medical issues at risk. It's best for everyone to follow the protocols put in place by the CDC*** Be a little empathetic with your fellow countrymen.


Props for your response, but the guy clearly just said they don't give a chit about the elderly or those with pre-existing conditions who have died. Your compassion is wasted on them
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1854 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:31 pm

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1855 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:36 pm

Newsday is reporting long voting lines here on Long Island. I'm going to drive by my early voting precinct to check it out.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1856 » by robillionaire » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:39 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Newsday is reporting long voting lines here on Long Island. I'm going to drive by my early voting precinct to check it out.



super long lines in the city and up in the bronx
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1857 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:43 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:Newsday is reporting long voting lines here on Long Island. I'm going to drive by my early voting precinct to check it out.



super long lines in the city and up in the bronx


I think I' goink to wait until Monday or Tuesday daytime to vote. Maybe the lines won't be as long.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1858 » by bigfnjoe96 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:52 pm

Cookies4life, thanks for reminding us that Coronavirus is a "Novel" virus hence why it's called "Covid-19". The 19 means it was identified in 2019 as a virus. Novel meaning "New".

This virus is a very serious virus, and we need to continue to be vigilant around safety. Wearing mask, washing hands and sanitizing, being mindful of crowds, and social distance as much as possible.

The coast is not clear!!!

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1859 » by GONYK » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:13 pm

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These early voting numbers aren't conclusive of anything, but they sure are encouraging.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1860 » by BKlutch » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:43 pm

I just voted in Jamaica, NY. There were about a thousand people in line, which was not bad considering earlier in the day, it was far worse. It took me about two hours to vote.

The atmosphere was festive and happy. 100% wore masks! Yes, I did not see 1 person without a mask (sorry, Donald). Those who were two week to walk were carried or assisted by poll workers. Inside the facility, it was the most orderly operation I've seen. Hand sanitizer for every person entering. 6' distancing was enforced by friendly, cooperative people who seemed happy to be dong their jobs.

I spoke with over 50 people. The atmosphere was so joyful -- everyone I spoke with seemed to say this one is personal. The turnout is the most amazing thing I've ever witnessed when voting, and I've been voting over 30 years. There was such a feeling among those on the line that we are all in this together. If there were any Trump voters, it wasn't apparent.

I wore my MKGA hat and lots of people commented on making the Knicks the next thing we have to fix.

Walking home from voting, I had a kind of natural high feeling that I haven't felt in years.

After voting, I spoke with several police who were there and asked if there had been any trouble. One laughed and said this was the best assignment he's ever had and nobody did anything at all since the poll opened this morning. Another policeman heard us talking and came running up and said he completely agreed. This just doesn't happen often in Jamaica.

I read that the lines heading to the Barclay's site were 5 blocks long - more than go to Nets games.

Do you remember Trump saying NYC is a ghost town? Well, now I know where all the people are. They're voting early!
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