2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

douggood · Post #1261 » by **douggood** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:29 pm

Psubs wrote:
mademan wrote:IF Harrell walks cause he and the Clippers situation is unfixable, i would take him for the MLE. Not much more tho. He's a good player who would add a lot of bench scoring and energy to a lineup that was lowkey pretty bad last year

Agreed. He's like a bigger version of RHJ.

so unplayable in the playoffs.

mademan · Post #1262 » by **mademan** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:31 pm

douggood wrote:
Psubs wrote:
mademan wrote:IF Harrell walks cause he and the Clippers situation is unfixable, i would take him for the MLE. Not much more tho. He's a good player who would add a lot of bench scoring and energy to a lineup that was lowkey pretty bad last year

Agreed. He's like a bigger version of RHJ.

so unplayable in the playoffs.

He's not unplayable. He just has bad matchups. He's not a star, but he'd absolutely give good minutes against a team like the C's who cant punish him in the post. He'd be only unplayable against Embiid in the East

douggood · Post #1263 » by **douggood** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:34 pm

mademan wrote:
douggood wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Agreed. He's like a bigger version of RHJ.

so unplayable in the playoffs.

He's not unplayable. He just has bad matchups. He's not a star, but he'd absolutely give good minutes against a team like the C's who cant punish him in the post. He'd be only unplayable against Embiid in the East

what about heat? the bucks? nets?

its not all about just post defense, come playoff time teams exploit him with the p&r

mademan · Post #1264 » by **mademan** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:37 pm

douggood wrote:
mademan wrote:
douggood wrote:so unplayable in the playoffs.

He's not unplayable. He just has bad matchups. He's not a star, but he'd absolutely give good minutes against a team like the C's who cant punish him in the post. He'd be only unplayable against Embiid in the East

what about heat? the bucks? nets?

its not all about just post defense, come playoff time teams exploit him with the p&r

He's a very decent defender in the PnR with quick feet. He struggles against legit size in the post

nabbs · Post #1265 » by **nabbs** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:46 pm

Norm for Gorguie Dieng's expiring and the Memphis second is something I would definitely consider

Psubs · Post #1266 » by **Psubs** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:31 pm

nabbs wrote:Norm for Gorguie Dieng's expiring and the Memphis second is something I would definitely consider

Norm, McCaw, Stanley and cash!

Maybe draft Nwora if he's a legit 6'7 without shoes, 225 lbs with a 6'10.5 wingspan. He can be a stretch 4.

Hughes at #29? PG at #59?

PG Lowry - FVV - #59
SG FVV - TD - Thomas
SF OG - Hughes/Watson
PF Siakam - Nwora/Boucher
C Ibaka - Dieng - Dewan

mademan · Post #1267 » by **mademan** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:26 pm

nabbs wrote:Norm for Gorguie Dieng's expiring and the Memphis second is something I would definitely consider

....why?

pr0gr4m · Post #1268 » by **pr0gr4m** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:11 pm

Psubs wrote:
nabbs wrote:Norm for Gorguie Dieng's expiring and the Memphis second is something I would definitely consider

Norm, McCaw, Stanley and cash!

Maybe draft Nwora if he's a legit 6'7 without shoes, 225 lbs with a 6'10.5 wingspan. He can be a stretch 4.

Hughes at #29? PG at #59?

PG Lowry - FVV - #59
SG FVV - TD - Thomas
SF OG - Hughes/Watson
PF Siakam - Nwora/Boucher
C Ibaka - Dieng - Dewan

I like Hughes but his stock his taking a hit because of Syracuse's rep. I would trade 29 down for 2 seconds if it's possible and take Hughes and Reed instead of wasting a whole first on him. I don't think Nwora is anything special. I want athletic, agreesive, wiry strong players to match up against tough physical offenses. I don't think this is the draft where you want to trade up.

The best thing to do would be to tank hard. We played through our window, we should take advantage of the shorten season and re-sign FVV/Ibaka/Powell and dump them mid season for 2022 picks since it's a loaded draft. Thug out next season with a crappy backcourt and nonexistent center position.

A lotto pick next off-season could be a key asset in trading for a secondary superstar next to Siakam. Then also luring in Giannis to form a big three. That is what it will to build a team to beat the Lakers 4x in a series, the LAC 4x in a series.

Imagine getting Doncic level prospect and Giannis in the same off-season along with retaining Siakam and keeping Lowry on a last year pre-retirement championship.

Giannis/Zeke(29)
Siakam/
OG/Cunningham(2021: 1)
Oladipo/Davis
Lowry/Mane(59)

That would completely wreck any ECF team. I am confident with Masai's drafting/scouting ability he could find a star with a high pick even if we don't land the first. We would even have a higher chance of getting a good pick with a tank now that the odds are evened out. We could BS a Siakam/Lowry rest how the Nets did in one season we could complete reload and add a top 5 pick, max contract, and Giannis.

Psubs · Post #1269 » by **Psubs** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:33 pm

Trade Powell and #59 for Delon and #31?

Delon makes $9 million which saves a bit and his contract goes down to $8.5 million the following summer, instead of Powell going up if re-signed. Sign Poeltl!!!

PG Lowry - Delon - FVV
SG FVV - TD/Thomas
SF OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - Boucher
C Ibaka - Poeltl

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #1270 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:49 pm

mademan wrote:IF Harrell walks cause he and the Clippers situation is unfixable, i would take him for the MLE. Not much more tho. He's a good player who would add a lot of bench scoring and energy to a lineup that was lowkey pretty bad last year

if there was a year to get a lowball for Harrell, sure this is the year. but there is no way Harrell is getting lowballed at $10M per year

he's probably going to get a contract of around $15 per year. dude average 18-7-2, with 1 block per game at 26 years old. People are and should be paying for his output in the next 3-4 years anyways. his defense is okay but most big men have trouble defending the PnR as always. would get killed against much bigger players and is better defending bigs who like to play on the perimeter. his interior defense has much to be desired.

If FVV can play better in the PnR, Harrell is going to beast offensively.

he'll play the RHJ role. but RHJ is a much more willing passer. but don't think Raptors will take him.

mademan · Post #1271 » by **mademan** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:33 pm

Why are you guys all trying to just give away Powell? I don’t mind trading him, but the last couple posts are straight up dumps

C-R-E-A-M- · Post #1272 » by **C-R-E-A-M-** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:37 pm

ATL tryna trade their #6 pick for a player to make the playoffs. Can Norm and a pick get the #6 pick? I would draft Onyeka, he looks like Bam

Psubs · Post #1273 » by **Psubs** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:50 pm

C-R-E-A-M- wrote:ATL tryna trade their #6 pick for a player to make the playoffs. Can Norm and a pick get the #6 pick? I would draft Onyeka, he looks like Bam

Norm, cash and #29 for #6 and Bruno Fernando

PG Lowry - TD - #59
SG FVV - Watson/Thomas
SF OG - McCaw/Watson - Stanley
PF Siakam - OG - Dewan
C Ibaka - Okongwu/Fernando

douggood · Post #1274 » by **douggood** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:08 pm

this board cannot decide the value of norm

i have seen proposals for 2nd, 6th pick, all the way to 31st pick and every thing in between.

Rapsfan07 · Post #1275 » by **Rapsfan07** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:14 pm

mademan wrote:Why are you guys all trying to just give away Powell? I don’t mind trading him, but the last couple posts are straight up dumps

Yeah I'm not quite sure what's going on here. He's a good player on a very reasonably priced contract.

I wouldn't be shopping him. Teams would have to blow me away with an offer for him. Otherwise, he's staying a Raptor.

Psubs · Post #1276 » by **Psubs** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:12 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
mademan wrote:Why are you guys all trying to just give away Powell? I don’t mind trading him, but the last couple posts are straight up dumps

Yeah I'm not quite sure what's going on here. He's a good player on a very reasonably priced contract.

I wouldn't be shopping him. Teams would have to blow me away with an offer for him. Otherwise, he's staying a Raptor.

He's going to opt out so do you want to pay him near $20 million for 50/40/85 but not much offense creation nor rebounding?

mademan · Post #1277 » by **mademan** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:14 pm

Psubs wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
mademan wrote:Why are you guys all trying to just give away Powell? I don’t mind trading him, but the last couple posts are straight up dumps

Yeah I'm not quite sure what's going on here. He's a good player on a very reasonably priced contract.

I wouldn't be shopping him. Teams would have to blow me away with an offer for him. Otherwise, he's staying a Raptor.

He's going to opt out so do you want to pay him near $20 million for 50/40/85 but not much offense creation nor rebounding?

If the trade is Dieng (who is also a FA) and a 2nd rounder, then ya, ill keep Powell and figure it out later. Dumping him for another soon to be FA who is a worse player by every metric is ridiculous and makes no sense

Asif16 · Post #1278 » by **Asif16** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:37 pm

Why is Norm just being thrown into these deals like he's Stanley Johnson

DreamTeam09 · Post #1279 » by **DreamTeam09** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:44 pm

Psubs wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
mademan wrote:Why are you guys all trying to just give away Powell? I don’t mind trading him, but the last couple posts are straight up dumps

Yeah I'm not quite sure what's going on here. He's a good player on a very reasonably priced contract.

I wouldn't be shopping him. Teams would have to blow me away with an offer for him. Otherwise, he's staying a Raptor.

He's going to opt out so do you want to pay him near $20 million for 50/40/85 but not much offense creation nor rebounding?

Norm Powell is not a 20m per year player under any circumstances. Not gonna happen at all anywhere.

LoveMyRaps · Post #1280 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:38 pm

A starting SG is the Hawks #1 priority.
Powell fits the bill.
I know they didn't forget about this...

Watch on YouTube

Could we get #6 for Norm + #29 + First Round Pick [2022] ? Maaaaybe.

I'd also be open to Norm for First Round Pick [2022-OKC] + Second Round Pick [2020-MIA] and/or Second Round Pick [2021-MIA]

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Young
Powell
Hunter
Collins
Capela
/with solid depth

That's a playoff team in the East IMO. Maybe not this year but next year for sure.