Fake Trade Thread 2

[gobullschi]

Bulls fan here. If Edwards goes 1 and Wiseman goes 2, what would it cost for Chicago to jump up one spot?

Likely more than you think. There's going to be a lot of offers for us if Ball is there. I'd probably start with either a future lotto protected 1st or Wendell Carter Jr.

I believe it. Not sure where you guys stand on moving all the way down to 8 though.

[James Gatz]

I think the board would be happy moving down to 8 if we got a future Knicks 1st but I doubt that offer is on the table. I'd personally be thrilled if it meant we got one of Hayes or Okongwu. Based on history of Kup and MJ I think we'll likely stay at 3 and take the last remaining guy in the "top 3."

If we could WCJ + 4 for 3 + Miles I'd definitely do it but I doubt the Bulls would. I don't think your young guys have either not enough/too much value to include. If we didn't like whoever was at 3 then a heavily protected 1st would likely be the price. If would have to become unprotected instead of 2nds at it's expiration though.

[gobullschi]

I think the board would be happy moving down to 8 if we got a future Knicks 1st but I doubt that offer is on the table. I'd personally be thrilled if it meant we got one of Hayes or Okongwu. Based on history of Kup and MJ I think we'll likely stay at 3 and take the last remaining guy in the "top 3."

If we could WCJ + 4 for 3 + Miles I'd definitely do it but I doubt the Bulls would. I don't think your young guys have either not enough/too much value to include. If we didn't like whoever was at 3 then a heavily protected 1st would likely be the price. If would have to become unprotected instead of 2nds at it's expiration though.

I think the Bulls would accept a WCJ + #4 for Bridges + #3. What type of protection on the 2021 1st were you thinking?

[BigSlam]

Bulls fan here. If Edwards goes 1 and Wiseman goes 2, what would it cost for Chicago to jump up one spot?

What’s White like defending the SG position?

If he can play SG next to Graham, waking away from draft night with White and OO might not be horrible?

So:
#4 and White
For
#3

(If White can play SG).


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Chicago seems to really like White. I doubt they use him to move up one spot.

If you’ve got Ball and LaVine on your roster, where does White fit?


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[gobullschi]

What’s White like defending the SG position?

If he can play SG next to Graham, waking away from draft night with White and OO might not be horrible?

So:
#4 and White
For
#3

(If White can play SG).


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Chicago seems to really like White. I doubt they use him to move up one spot.

If you’ve got Ball and LaVine on your roster, where does White fit?


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Lou Williams - sixth man role. Billy Donovan used a lot of 3 guard rotations too.

[James Gatz]

I think the board would be happy moving down to 8 if we got a future Knicks 1st but I doubt that offer is on the table. I'd personally be thrilled if it meant we got one of Hayes or Okongwu. Based on history of Kup and MJ I think we'll likely stay at 3 and take the last remaining guy in the "top 3."

If we could WCJ + 4 for 3 + Miles I'd definitely do it but I doubt the Bulls would. I don't think your young guys have either not enough/too much value to include. If we didn't like whoever was at 3 then a heavily protected 1st would likely be the price. If would have to become unprotected instead of 2nds at it's expiration though.

I think the Bulls would accept a WCJ + #4 for Bridges + #3. What type of protection on the 2021 1st were you thinking?

Lottery Protected 21/22, Top 10 Protected 23, Top 8 Protected 25, Unprotected after that?

Getting into the weeds a bit but I think something like that would be possible.

Also if Ball was available at 3 I would take him and not make that deal personally. For me, he's the highest upside guy and the only person we could build the franchise around. I'm in the minority on this board with that opinion though.

[JMAC3]

Just thinking about if this team takes Lamelo

Obviously longterm I’m not sure if Graham and him can coexist. Wouldn’t expect them to make a trade before the season before seeing what they have in Ball or how they play together.

However if it doesn’t work wonder if there is a deal that can be built around a Graham for Oladipo deal.

He apparently wants out, Graham would be a good fit next to Brogdon as the pacers don’t really have a high volume 3 point shooter right now that plays big minutes.

For us Oladipo defense would hopefully make our backcourt at least average on that side of ball with Lamelo.

Oladipo would be our main scorer, which would take pressure off Lamelo while he figures things out.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Honestly, if the team drafted LaMelo and traded Graham, I would probably quit the Hornets for a while.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Not really trying to get rid of Terry, but how would people here feel about Rozier to Atlanta for #6? They could absorb him with cap space and the team could end up with 3 & 6 this year.

[HornetJail]

Not really trying to get rid of Terry, but how would people here feel about Rozier to Atlanta for #6? They could absorb him with cap space and the team could end up with 3 & 6 this year.

lol I'd be thrilled if we got a 2nd rounder and cap space. No way is Atlanta trading #6 to get him

[yosemiteben]

I'd dump Rozier for a second rounder to get a guy like Tre Jones in a heartbeat, but I've been beating that drum for a while.

[Braggins]

It wouldn't take much to get me to trade Rozier. Cap relief and some other minimal compensation would be fine with me. I want to be in contention for the top pick next season and I don't really like Roziers game all that much to begin with.

[Rich4114]

I would trade out of Rozier. Rozier is interesting because he’s a good player and was a great spot up 3pt shooter last season. The problem is for us, if he’s a main component we won’t win much. He’s so much more valuable if he’s a supporting cast depth guy on a good team vs one of the primary options on a lesser team. His value is probably the highest it’ll ever be right now too. I think if we drafted Ball we’d be even more apt to move Rozier.

[JMAC3]

I would trade out of Rozier. Rozier is interesting because he’s a good player and was a great spot up 3pt shooter last season. The problem is for us, if he’s a main component we won’t win much. He’s so much more valuable if he’s a supporting cast depth guy on a good team vs one of the primary options on a lesser team. His value is probably the highest it’ll ever be right now too. I think if we drafted Ball we’d be even more apt to move Rozier.

I actually think Terry makes a lot of sense on our team is really undervalued (different then underpaid). The problem last year was Hornets had 0 depth along without having a bonafide star.

Guards who can get in paint and hit high volumes of threes are invaluable in this league and every team would love Terry if he wasn’t getting paid so much. For us tho it doesn’t matter because the majority of our guys are on rookie scale contracts.

Example if we draft Edwards and bring Terry off the bench (we would be paying our SG position roughly 23 million to potentially be getting 30+ ppg. That’s solid value.

The only way I would consider dealing Terry was if Monk has a giant breakout and he needs minutes and we want to give him big contract.

[316Hornets]

I have no interest in trading Rozier for junk like a 2nd rounder. His age, attitude, and role are great for our rebuilding team. You need a loud guy that can take attention away from the young guys when we are losing a lot. Confidence is a fragile thing.

[JMAC3]

Not sure I do these deals but here are a couple realistic offers I found to get us additional firsts. Also I’m not saying we should do all these deals, that is unrealistic.

Hornets trade Bridges to Boston for Kanter and 14.

Hornets trade Rozier to Orlando for Aminu and 15.

Hornets trade Zeller to Minnesota for James Johnson and 17.

Did not really think we had anything to trade to get a second top 10 pick, without trading down.

[James Gatz]

I'd pull the trigger on any of these deals. I don't really see Magic or MN making those deals. I think both Zeller and Rozier are slightly negative contracts.

Cs will likely need to dump Kanter and if they can't package to move up for OO I could see them making a move like that.

[HornetJail]

Not sure I do these deals but here are a couple realistic offers I found to get us additional firsts. Also I’m not saying we should do all these deals, that is unrealistic.

Hornets trade Bridges to Boston for Kanter and 14. no

Hornets trade Rozier to Orlando for Aminu and 15. yes

Hornets trade Zeller to Minnesota for James Johnson and 17. yes

Did not really think we had anything to trade to get a second top 10 pick, without trading down.

[JMAC3]

Not sure I do these deals but here are a couple realistic offers I found to get us additional firsts. Also I’m not saying we should do all these deals, that is unrealistic.

Hornets trade Bridges to Boston for Kanter and 14. no

Hornets trade Rozier to Orlando for Aminu and 15. yes

Hornets trade Zeller to Minnesota for James Johnson and 17. yes

Did not really think we had anything to trade to get a second top 10 pick, without trading down.

I always say the fairest deals in fantasy football are the ones that make your skin itch a bit but you want to do them anyways. That’s how I feel about Miles deal, if Bey or Vassell are still there I probably make that deal. For Boston they get a guy who is ready to play now especially with no off-season/summer league.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

I suspect that Boston would seriously consider Kanter and 14 to Charlotte for just cap relief.