Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

[pepe1991]

Seeing several mocks in the last few days suggesting the Knicks will take Kira Lewis Jr. at 8 if Haliburton and Hayes are off the board.

He played grand tota lof 10 mi and 47 sec in bubble over 2 games ,i highly doubt anybody is really looking too deep into that

[Blue_and_Whte]

You're going to see me peddle Vassell a lot since I've decided he's our guy. 6'10 wing span, Good 3pt shooter, high defensive IQ/great defensive reflexes, I project a little better than just a 3&D guy. Seems like a WeHam guy to me.

[Tarheel]

You're going to see me peddle Vassell a lot since I've decided he's our guy. 6'10 wing span, Good 3pt shooter, high defensive IQ/great defensive reflexes, I project a little better than just a 3&D guy. Seems like a WeHam guy to me.

I'd really like us to draft Vassell. Projects well as a 3 and D SF at the next level.

However, there's no way he lasts to 15 and if we're trading up I'd rather we went after slightly bigger fish (ie lead/secondary creators, Hayes, Haliburton etc).

[Skin]

You're going to see me peddle Vassell a lot since I've decided he's our guy. 6'10 wing span, Good 3pt shooter, high defensive IQ/great defensive reflexes, I project a little better than just a 3&D guy. Seems like a WeHam guy to me.

I have him #2 after Edwards, but I'm crazy like that. I think I see shades of a young T-Mac. High ceiling, high floor. Similar body movement style. Now does he have the will to be great?

[Knightro]

You're going to see me peddle Vassell a lot since I've decided he's our guy. 6'10 wing span, Good 3pt shooter, high defensive IQ/great defensive reflexes, I project a little better than just a 3&D guy. Seems like a WeHam guy to me.

I have him #2 after Edwards, but I'm crazy like that. I think I see shades of a young T-Mac. High ceiling, high floor. Similar body movement style. Now does he have the will to be great?

Love your enthusiasm, but T-Mac is rolling over in his grave at this comparison

[Skybox]

You're going to see me peddle Vassell a lot since I've decided he's our guy. 6'10 wing span, Good 3pt shooter, high defensive IQ/great defensive reflexes, I project a little better than just a 3&D guy. Seems like a WeHam guy to me.

I have him #2 after Edwards, but I'm crazy like that. I think I see shades of a young T-Mac. High ceiling, high floor. Similar body movement style. Now does he have the will to be great?

Love your enthusiasm, but T-Mac is rolling over in his grave at this comparison

I see Mikal Bridges. High floor, low ceiling. Would love to nab him if we find another first round pick somewhere to take a big swing at bpa. Vassell seems very safe to me, just like the rest of our safe, solid, fundamentally sound, B-level roster...looking for a leader (like T-Mac) who wants the ball EVERY time down.

[Skin]

You're going to see me peddle Vassell a lot since I've decided he's our guy. 6'10 wing span, Good 3pt shooter, high defensive IQ/great defensive reflexes, I project a little better than just a 3&D guy. Seems like a WeHam guy to me.

I have him #2 after Edwards, but I'm crazy like that. I think I see shades of a young T-Mac. High ceiling, high floor. Similar body movement style. Now does he have the will to be great?

Love your enthusiasm, but T-Mac is rolling over in his grave at this comparison

Well he's a better shooter than T-Mac so there's a start!

[yoyojw17]

and with the #15 pick... the magic take

Watch on YouTube

lol.... jk... but a late 2nd round cash flyer wouldn't be that bad.... not sure about the talent he's played against... but... you never know.

[Blue_and_Whte]

You're going to see me peddle Vassell a lot since I've decided he's our guy. 6'10 wing span, Good 3pt shooter, high defensive IQ/great defensive reflexes, I project a little better than just a 3&D guy. Seems like a WeHam guy to me.

I'd really like us to draft Vassell. Projects well as a 3 and D SF at the next level.

However, there's no way he lasts to 15 and if we're trading up I'd rather we went after slightly bigger fish (ie lead/secondary creators, Hayes, Haliburton etc).

Yeah we'd definitely have to trade up which means it wont happen. I dont think anyone moves us up 6 spots, and whats the incentive for Washington to trade down?

[Blue_and_Whte]

I have him #2 after Edwards, but I'm crazy like that. I think I see shades of a young T-Mac. High ceiling, high floor. Similar body movement style. Now does he have the will to be great?

Love your enthusiasm, but T-Mac is rolling over in his grave at this comparison

I see Mikal Bridges. High floor, low ceiling. Would love to nab him if we find another first round pick somewhere to take a big swing at bpa. Vassell seems very safe to me, just like the rest of our safe, solid, fundamentally sound, B-level roster...looking for a leader (like T-Mac) who wants the ball EVERY time down.

That's what i mean. That's why I don't get excited about where we are and this draft in general. I'm trying to, by reading and watching scouting reports. Even if we do trade up and grab Vassell we get what? A 3D player... Ok...

The only thing that would pump me up is if they blew the team up tbh. I mean keep JI, Fultz, Okeke. Mo, and maybe AG.

[pepe1991]

nba.draft net has Wiseman falling to 11#

I highly doubt somebody like Hornets will pass on him, that being said i see almost no upside in burning high lottery pick on player who at best will be better version of Deandre Jordan

[Bensational]

Love your enthusiasm, but T-Mac is rolling over in his grave at this comparison

I see Mikal Bridges. High floor, low ceiling. Would love to nab him if we find another first round pick somewhere to take a big swing at bpa. Vassell seems very safe to me, just like the rest of our safe, solid, fundamentally sound, B-level roster...looking for a leader (like T-Mac) who wants the ball EVERY time down.

That's what i mean. That's why I don't get excited about where we are and this draft in general. I'm trying to, by reading and watching scouting reports. Even if we do trade up and grab Vassell we get what? A 3D player... Ok...

The only thing that would pump me up is if they blew the team up tbh. I mean keep JI, Fultz, Okeke. Mo, and maybe AG.

This is actually one of the most interesting drafts to me because nobody is the stand out obvious pick. But the odds say there's going to be a couple of suprise all-stars in there, so it's exciting to think we're drafting in the range that previous steals have been found. But like those steals and the reasons they slipped on draft night, you gotta imagine there's room in their game to overcome those shortcomings.

Take a guy like Tyrell Terry. His pros are that he's a fantastic shooter off with deep range. His handles are functional but won't break a defense down, so he will be very screen needy. He doesn't have great athleticism either. But, he plays smart, knows how to find his spots, and can make a good pass. So a safe floor is probably Seth Curry/JJ kind.

Not super exciting, but he'd have a skill which would get him on the court for us and it would make an immediate difference. And being a blind optimist I'll take any new prospect and hope they can become the next diamond in the rough.

[pepe1991]

i get where Blue _and_white comming from

This draft has, across the board that " MIkal Bridgest can be star" type of vibe, where you are trying to convince yourself into something you don't belive.
I had same issue with myself about D'angelo Russell, for 2 years straight i tried to talk myself into notion that is not that bad. And now, 5 years later, f*** it, D'angelo Russell is definition of mediocrity without leash.

Let's go through some prospects and their reality:
Edwards, 30% usage rate 2,8 assists. Guy is either blind or selfish. Probably both.
Wiseman. 7 footer who at college level did not face player taller than 6'10. Imo once again, huge gap between what scouts belive he can be and what he is today. His videos of him taking people of dribble are copy past same type of crap Thon Maker was allegedly going to do. Spoiler alert : centers don't dribble. Never were, and probably never going to do. That's why you have ballhandlers.

Avdija. Can't really shoot, isn't that athletic. His "playmaking" is force-fed and telegraphed.

Okongwu- 6'9 no advanced skills center. Hello Tristan Thompson.

Lamelo Ball- strip Lonzo from athletical ability and defense and you drafted 6'7 Elfrid Payton with ego of Rodman.

Toppin. Unathletic Gordon.

Hayes- slower D'angleo Russell. Guy can't take players off dribble in Germany. Get a f*** away with that crap.

Vassell- i can already see espn breaking news " Devin Vassell is hiring XY to teach him how to shoot".

What annoys me the most is Vassell. How do guys like him, Lonzo, Lamelo get to their 20s without single coach telling them YOU CAN'T SHOOT LIKE THAT.
What a **** is that jumper? Throwing stone ?

Joe Casey
@Joe_Casey1
Devin Vassell looks to have completely changed his jumpshot a month before the draft. This is form is not what made him a top ten pick

[jezzerinho]

Guys I'm most interested in for Orl:
Dotson (could be best pure PG in the draft)
Haliburton (smartest player in the draft)
S Bey (not the greatest athlete but v versatile)
Nesmith (coming around on him because his great off ball movement is something Orl is crying out for)
Terry (has an elite skill and his supposed weaknesses are overblown)

Trade down from 15 or tradeup from 45:
Woodard (dark horse to be much more than he is now. Great frame, work ethic, BBIQ)

Can't make my mind up on:
Maxey ( love everything but the shot)
Anthony ( have a sneaking feeling he'll make a fool of those who overrelied on his NC tape)

[Magicfanatic82]

Anthony ( have a sneaking feeling he'll make a fool of those who overrelied on his NC tape)

1 of 2 players @15 with legit potential to be best player in draft. The other being McDaniels. Both have risk but major talent.
Anthony is a gym rat, raised around the game, nba pedigree and has been playing with and around pros for years. How do you balance 1 bad year for both guys vs all the info?
Bey, Nesmith and the others maybe have higher floors but lower ceilings

[KillMonger]

Lmao...... Toppin.... Unathletic Gordon..... That legit made me laugh

[pepe1991]

Lmao...... Toppin.... Unathletic Gordon..... That legit made me laugh

Well he isn't unathletic, but not as athletic as Gordon but after that what execlly is his basketball strenght?
He is 6'9 and in nba other than center what a hell he can play?

Kenneth Faried type players have no role in modern basketball, at least on good teams.
His jump hooks are only workable in fashion he is using them at college level, and have zero implemetation sucess in nba. For start, once he is in NBA, standing at 6'9 will be very close to average nba size player. In other words, one Paul George, who has no issue playing SG, will be his size.

Him being 6'9 -225 means, at against centers he will always be 3-4 inches shorter, and at least on start- 30 -40 even 50 pounds lighter. In other words, his game does not translate in nba.

for 2 years at college, his outside shooting was limited on 43 threes made. On top of that he is 4 months away from turning 23.
Where execlly his advanced skills will come from ? He won't become high usage shooter now, that's a given. His body doesn't have that much time to develop, he is too old for it. He is poor passer, complete no treat as ball handler.

So homless version of Blake Griffin or Gordon, very similar player to Kenneth Faried? He is type of guy who last year would not be touched before 25-35 pick range.
If my player has only strenght- being good at catching lobs, i'm betting 7 footer will always do it better than 6'9 guy.

[SOUL]

We have no idea how any of these guys will translate. Can take sneak peeks from their college/overseas career and try to apply it but if it was that easy every draft would be cut and dry best players to worst players. I hope at our position (or if we move up) we can find someone that can score in multiple ways and get easy baskets. We have an issue with scoring when we absolutely need a bucket.

[The Real Dalic]

We have no idea how any of these guys will translate. Can take sneak peeks from their college/overseas career and try to apply it but if it was that easy every draft would be cut and dry best players to worst players. I hope at our position (or if we move up) we can find someone that can score in multiple ways and get easy baskets. We have an issue with scoring when we absolutely need a bucket.

Yes please. That's why I want anyone that can score at a high level. I would look at players like Kira Lewis Jr. at our pick. If we move up, Haliburton or someone like that would be great. Don't care who it is, as long as they can score. People can suggest whoever they want to me since I don't know much about this draft, but all I know is that we need to address scoring. We have the draft, trades, and FA to figure it out. Don't care if it makes us worse for this season either.

[basketballRob]

I think someone who can play the two that can handle the ball and make plays. That's why i like guys like Haliburton, Okoro, and Maxey.

Having Fournier as one of our primary ball handlers is a bad recipe. He couldn't put the ball on the floor or pass it against the Bucks.

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