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RexBoyWonder wrote:Seabass777 wrote:Cole Anthony seems like another Shabazz Napier to me
To be fair he's more alethic then Napier, but I'm sure how much he really implements it
Just like Tyrese Maxey, I don't see the point in these smallish guards that aren't great shooters, aren't great passers, they're just..small.
lastb1ckman wrote:At 20 Cole Anthony would be a great pick. When healthy, the kid is a smart, athletic, score first pg. He'd likely be one of our best scorers within a couple seasons.
His efficiency in college is definitely something to pay attention to, but people need to remember he was playing injured most of last season on a bad UNC team with no spacing. He's another one of those guys like Maxey that I think will be a better shooter in the NBA compared to college if on the right team.
On a team like the Heat, I could see him as a secondary playmaker that provides decent point of attack defense and 3 level scoring when Jimmy and Dragic are resting.
I do not much about Reed besides his ugly shot. Is he a project?radikalBaller wrote:Been watching some depaul games. Reed passing is underated, his mobility for a big is elite, excellent defender, makes defensive plays al game, guard 1 through 5, legit 6-9 7-2 wingspan, best big at defending the perimeter I have seen so far
On offense he is a lob threat, do the hand off pass very well, good on the pick and roll, jumpshot is decent, good rebounder, high motor, does not take any plays off, runs the floor like a gazelle, outrun guards regularly, he can handle and drive a little, has a nice floater, decent post move, good at putbacks...
I dont think we can pass on his defensive potential, and he can do more than other bigs on offense. I invite you to watch his games...
Passing: Legitimately elite passer for a big with quick decisions and processes the court very quickly. Though he can be lazy on some pass attempts, he does not force that many passes he should not be making (pretty safe/smart passer) with good passing IQ. His passing is elite due to his ability to pass on the roll/on the short-roll, out of the post, on drive and kicks/drop-offs, and make very quick decisions – well varied passing ability. He should be someone you can run off DHOs and PnRs pretty easily and not have to worry about him making poor decisions. Using him as an offensive hub around the elbows / extended elbows will be in his skillset. Does a nice job dribbling to his teammate and hitting the backdoor cut perfectly, including one-handed ones. Also uses his body well in DHOs and on re-screening to help get his man free, opening up a pass. Can miss some passes on drives into the paint, but does not happen that often. Good overall touch on his passes, though this is something that can always be improved.
https://www.thestepien.com/2020/03/17/xavier-tillman-scouting-report/
twix2500 wrote:A player that has poke at my interest that I waver back and forth with is Xavier Tillman. Not saying get him for the 20th pick, but I think he has a potential to be a big time role player. We talk about a lot of power players who are at the 6'8 6'9 range, such as Perry, Reed and Achiuwa. A lot look at those guys and they point out the 3 pt shooting or the potential for 3 pt shooting. Xavier Tillman is not a three point shooter and I do not think he will ever be. However, when you look at him defensively, I think he fits the NBA more so than Perry, Reed and Achiuwa. He has the potential to be a bigger Draymond Green, someone who may be able to give Lebron, Giannis and Embiid trouble. He is a very smart (one edge over Achiuwa), lengthy, athletic and strong. Even when you look at him offensively, he is very smart all around outside of shooting. He knows how to move and manipulate offense off the ball. He appears to be a well coached player. I think he will be a player that will contribute if put in the right role his rookie season. He is a guy I always noticed when I watch Michigan and say man he is giving that opponent problems and I google his height and get disappointed. Which is the same thing I did with Draymond. Look at his versatility defensively and even offensively. He capable of defending all 5 positions, and moves so well and can pass.
6'8 245 with a 7'1 wingspan
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This is what Stepien says about his passingPassing: Legitimately elite passer for a big with quick decisions and processes the court very quickly. Though he can be lazy on some pass attempts, he does not force that many passes he should not be making (pretty safe/smart passer) with good passing IQ. His passing is elite due to his ability to pass on the roll/on the short-roll, out of the post, on drive and kicks/drop-offs, and make very quick decisions – well varied passing ability. He should be someone you can run off DHOs and PnRs pretty easily and not have to worry about him making poor decisions. Using him as an offensive hub around the elbows / extended elbows will be in his skillset. Does a nice job dribbling to his teammate and hitting the backdoor cut perfectly, including one-handed ones. Also uses his body well in DHOs and on re-screening to help get his man free, opening up a pass. Can miss some passes on drives into the paint, but does not happen that often. Good overall touch on his passes, though this is something that can always be improved.
Chalm Downs wrote:his nickname is boywonder ffs
RexBoyWonder wrote:Spoiler:
I didn't really looked too deeply into him, but I do recall a draft insider, I think on some of the pods, mentioned that Tillman shot the 3 ball incredibly well in workouts, I mean elite shooter type percentages. Which I thought was surprising and interesting.
radikalBaller wrote:Been watching some depaul games. Reed passing is underated, his mobility for a big is elite, excellent defender, makes defensive plays al game, guard 1 through 5, legit 6-9 7-2 wingspan, best big at defending the perimeter I have seen so far
On offense he is a lob threat, do the hand off pass very well, good on the pick and roll, jumpshot is decent, good rebounder, high motor, does not take any plays off, runs the floor like a gazelle, outrun guards regularly, he can handle and drive a little, has a nice floater, decent post move, good at putbacks...
I dont think we can pass on his defensive potential, and he can do more than other bigs on offense. I invite you to watch his games...
twix2500 wrote:RexBoyWonder wrote:Spoiler:
I didn't really looked too deeply into him, but I do recall a draft insider, I think on some of the pods, mentioned that Tillman shot the 3 ball incredibly well in workouts, I mean elite shooter type percentages. Which I thought was surprising and interesting.
Maybe its an area that can be developed to something decent. Not sure, havent really study his mechanics. But I think enough of his game may be developed enough that he can be put on the court his rookie season similar how Winlsow and Bam was trusted because their pluses regardless the huge holes in their games and that they know how to stay within themselves.
twix2500 wrote:I do not much about Reed besides his ugly shot. Is he a project?radikalBaller wrote:Been watching some depaul games. Reed passing is underated, his mobility for a big is elite, excellent defender, makes defensive plays al game, guard 1 through 5, legit 6-9 7-2 wingspan, best big at defending the perimeter I have seen so far
On offense he is a lob threat, do the hand off pass very well, good on the pick and roll, jumpshot is decent, good rebounder, high motor, does not take any plays off, runs the floor like a gazelle, outrun guards regularly, he can handle and drive a little, has a nice floater, decent post move, good at putbacks...
I dont think we can pass on his defensive potential, and he can do more than other bigs on offense. I invite you to watch his games...
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Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:radikalBaller wrote:Been watching some depaul games. Reed passing is underated, his mobility for a big is elite, excellent defender, makes defensive plays al game, guard 1 through 5, legit 6-9 7-2 wingspan, best big at defending the perimeter I have seen so far
On offense he is a lob threat, do the hand off pass very well, good on the pick and roll, jumpshot is decent, good rebounder, high motor, does not take any plays off, runs the floor like a gazelle, outrun guards regularly, he can handle and drive a little, has a nice floater, decent post move, good at putbacks...
I dont think we can pass on his defensive potential, and he can do more than other bigs on offense. I invite you to watch his games...
We can do better than a defensive specialist at 20.
radikalBaller wrote:Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:radikalBaller wrote:Been watching some depaul games. Reed passing is underated, his mobility for a big is elite, excellent defender, makes defensive plays al game, guard 1 through 5, legit 6-9 7-2 wingspan, best big at defending the perimeter I have seen so far
On offense he is a lob threat, do the hand off pass very well, good on the pick and roll, jumpshot is decent, good rebounder, high motor, does not take any plays off, runs the floor like a gazelle, outrun guards regularly, he can handle and drive a little, has a nice floater, decent post move, good at putbacks...
I dont think we can pass on his defensive potential, and he can do more than other bigs on offense. I invite you to watch his games...
We can do better than a defensive specialist at 20.
Looks like a weak draft, we would be lucky to land a good specialist with a long nba carreer