2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II

[jpatrick]

Are Haliburton, Okoro and Toppin prospects the Wolves are looking to trade down or up to?

Now this is the question, isn’t it?

[Sulla]

The fact that you think they are similar is sad.

They're not of the same archetype?

Wouldn't signing Noel do more to help us win in the immediate future than Wiseman?

For starters, he's 3" shorter, 25 lbs lighter, 7 years older AND he came in the league having to completely rework his jumpshot.

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The fact that you think they are similar shows you aren't paying attention. Don't bother replying, your opinion doesn't have any value in this discussion.

You seem to think that Wiseman will have more immediate value than other rookies, and that's one good reason to draft him #1. However, there are centers out there who can be had for cheap that will outperform Wiseman in the near future. Therefore, Wiseman having more immediate value isn't a good reason to draft him.

[urinesane]

They're not of the same archetype?

Wouldn't signing Noel do more to help us win in the immediate future than Wiseman?

For starters, he's 3" shorter, 25 lbs lighter, 7 years older AND he came in the league having to completely rework his jumpshot.

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The fact that you think they are similar shows you aren't paying attention. Don't bother replying, your opinion doesn't have any value in this discussion.

You seem to think that Wiseman will have more immediate value than other rookies, and that's one good reason to draft him #1. However, there are centers out there who can be had for cheap that will outperform Wiseman in the near future. Therefore, Wiseman having more immediate value isn't a good reason to draft him.

It's his immediate value combine with his MASSIVE long term potential value. It's not solely based on what he can contribute right away. It does however fit the Wolves current Win Now narrative more than the other potential top picks since he would help them more as a rookie than the others.

I think he's the best long term prospect, that fact that he can help right away is just a bonus.

[moonpie]

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[urinesane]

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Chasin' that #1 pick paper.

Actions>>>>>>words

[minimus]

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Please Rosas, get this guy!

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[Neeva]

What about edwards and balls official measurements??

[Dewey]

Are Haliburton, Okoro and Toppin prospects the Wolves are looking to trade down or up to?

Now this is the question, isn’t it?

that or they need a second lottery pick to make a bigger move and trying to do it on their own?

#17/Culver <<>> Lotto Pick

#1/Lotto Pick/Filler <<>> Simmons

#33 <<>> xyz (BPA/Forward)

Simmons/DLo/xyz/xyz/KAT

[Neeva]

Need to give up the Simmons dream. Philly aint trading him and hes too expensive anyway.

[SmokeyPaw]

Some combine measurements. https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?dir=1&sort=HEIGHT_W_SHOES

[Dewey]

Need to give up the Simmons dream. Philly aint trading him and hes too expensive anyway.

well I can tell ya with 100% certainty we are not sniffing around trying to gather picks to use for ourselves... maybe Bookers max would be cheaper????

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[Battletrigger]

The fact that you think they are similar is sad.

They're not of the same archetype?

Wouldn't signing Noel do more to help us win in the immediate future than Wiseman?

For starters, he's 3" shorter, 25 lbs lighter, 7 years older AND he came in the league having to completely rework his jumpshot.

Watch on YouTube

The fact that you think they are similar shows you aren't paying attention. Don't bother replying, your opinion doesn't have any value in this discussion.

This sentences reflects how poor the people these days are.

It's always funny to read people talking like they have the only and important truth, but if you see the stats you will see that Wiseman only played 3 games with a 0.0% 3p and that in two of the three games he shot under 70% in FT.

[TheDominator273]

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That wingspan on Winston is very intriguing. I definitely see him having a long career as a backup PG

[minimus]

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That wingspan on Winston is very intriguing. I definitely see him having a long career as a backup PG

I like Woodard wingspan number

[urinesane]

They're not of the same archetype?

Wouldn't signing Noel do more to help us win in the immediate future than Wiseman?

For starters, he's 3" shorter, 25 lbs lighter, 7 years older AND he came in the league having to completely rework his jumpshot.

Watch on YouTube

The fact that you think they are similar shows you aren't paying attention. Don't bother replying, your opinion doesn't have any value in this discussion.

This sentences reflects how poor the people these days are.

It's always funny to read people talking like they have the only and important truth, but if you see the stats you will see that Wiseman only played 3 games with a 0.0% 3p and that in two of the three games he shot under 70% in FT.

Compare Noel's stats with Wiseman (even if a small sample). Wiseman is more of a scoring threat than Noel has ever been and it's not even close. It's an incredibly lazy comp and doesn't add to the discussion in any meaningful way.

Also your horrible grammar in the sentence talking about how poor people are is irony at it's finest.

[Battletrigger]

For starters, he's 3" shorter, 25 lbs lighter, 7 years older AND he came in the league having to completely rework his jumpshot.

Watch on YouTube

The fact that you think they are similar shows you aren't paying attention. Don't bother replying, your opinion doesn't have any value in this discussion.

This sentences reflects how poor the people these days are.

It's always funny to read people talking like they have the only and important truth, but if you see the stats you will see that Wiseman only played 3 games with a 0.0% 3p and that in two of the three games he shot under 70% in FT.

Compare Noel's stats with Wiseman (even if a small sample). Wiseman is more of a scoring threat than Noel has ever been and it's not even close. It's an incredibly lazy comp and doesn't add to the discussion in any meaningful way.

Also your horrible grammar in the sentence talking about how poor people are is irony at it's finest.

You are right, my English grammar is very poor, how many languages do you speak? English is not my mother language, in fact, is my third or fourth one.

If you are going to ignore the fact that I refuted your 'Wiseman is a 3p shooter' only for my grammar, I hope that you talk better than me your third or fourth language.

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ESPN+ Draft Express Mock Draft

1. Minnesota Timberwolves


LaMelo Ball
Illawarra
G
Age: 19.2

Trade talks are ongoing for this pick, with several suitors emerging, but many around the NBA are operating under the assumption that Ball will be the selection here. A second meeting between Ball and the Timberwolves is expected to happen soon and could include basketball activity, which will certainly influence Minnesota's direction at No. 1. There are scenarios in which the Wolves could trade down to No. 3 and still end up with Ball, picking up additional pieces such as Miles Bridges and a future pick from the Charlotte Hornets.

Full Ball scouting report

2. Golden State Warriors


James Wiseman
Memphis
C
Age: 19.6

The Warriors actively have been discussing trades, including scenarios that would net them a starting-caliber frontcourt player along with a pick in the top 10. The Bulls, Pistons and Knicks are among the candidates to trade up to No. 2. But if the Warriors keep this pick, most executives around the league expect them to end up selecting Wiseman, who would fill an immediate need at the center position while still possessing considerable upside.

Full Wiseman scouting report

3. Charlotte Hornets


Anthony Edwards
Georgia
G
Age: 19.2

A somewhat disappointing showing during his recent televised pro day -- at least from a conditioning and shooting consistency standpoint -- might have hurt Edwards' chances of being the No. 1 pick, but there is still considerable intrigue around his talent and long-term potential. The Hornets could definitely use an explosive wing in Edwards' mold to shoulder shot-creation duties and give them some of the star power they lack.

Full Edwards scouting report

4. Chicago Bulls


Deni Avdija
Maccabi
G/F
Age: 19.8

The draft starts here in the view of some NBA executives, after that first tier of prospects is off the board. While active in trade discussions, the Bulls already have several interesting young pieces that the new front office probably will want to learn more about firsthand. Avdija's size, versatility, feel for the game and role-playing potential make him a good fit anywhere, while also offering another playmaking option as he develops.

Full Avdija scouting report

5. Cleveland Cavaliers


Obi Toppin
Dayton
F
Age: 22.6

There are several reasons for the Cavs to be attracted to Toppin, who played a couple of hours down the road at Dayton and would bring considerable enthusiasm with his explosive style of play. The best player in college basketball last season, Toppin is older than Collin Sexton, Darius Garland and Kevin Porter Jr., making him a fit with the team's timeline.


6. Atlanta Hawks


Isaac Okoro
Auburn
G/F
Age: 19.7

Okoro is the type of wing stopper who can go a long way in masking Trae Young's deficiencies on the defensive end, with his ability to guard point guards and power forwards alike. He has significant upside to grow into as well thanks to his budding passing and ballhandling ability while bringing the type of competitiveness and physicality the Hawks lacked at times last season. There's also buzz about the Hawks potentially trading down to the teens while adding another young yet more proven player to the roster.

Full Okoro scouting report

7. Detroit Pistons


Patrick Williams
Florida State
F
Age: 19.2

The big winner of the pre-draft process thus far, Williams rocketed into the top 10 as NBA teams gained a comfort level with his film and watched combo forwards in his mold make a significant impact in the playoffs. His defensive versatility is coveted in today's NBA, and the flashes he showed as a playmaker and shooter are areas that can theoretically be honed into consistent weapons with a strong player development infrastructure.

Full Williams scouting report

8. New York Knicks


Tyrese Haliburton
Iowa State
G
Age: 20.6

This is the low end of Haliburton's draft range. He is also getting looks from Minnesota, Golden State, Chicago and Detroit. Haliburton brings the type of defensive versatility, unselfishness and shooting range the Knicks were lacking at times last season, making him a strong fit in a backcourt with RJ Barrett, who is at his best with the ball in his hands.

Full Haliburton scouting report

9. Washington Wizards


Onyeka Okongwu
USC
F/C
Age: 19.9

Okongwu is considered by some people around the league to be the best big man in this draft. His defensive versatility as a switch-all, rim-protecting center with a strong feel for the game makes him an excellent fit in the modern game, and he has significant upside to grow into offensively as well thanks to his reliable hands and soft touch.

Full Okongwu scouting report

10. Phoenix Suns


Devin Vassell
Florida State
G/F
Age: 20.2

The Suns are looking heavily at point guards and wings, particularly those who complement Devin Booker. Vassell is the type of strong 3-and-D role player every NBA team is looking for. A late bloomer physically who showed significant versatility both on and off the ball at Florida State, Vassell has some offensive upside to grow into thanks to his above-average passing and ability to shoot off the dribble.

Full Vassell scouting report

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Part 2

11. San Antonio Spurs


Aaron Nesmith
Vanderbilt
G/F
Age: 21.0

The Spurs are exploring both wings and bigs, as they have several positions of need in an aging frontcourt. Nesmith is one of the best shooters in the draft and has some multipositional versatility thanks to his excellent size, length and frame.

Full Nesmith scouting report

12. Sacramento Kings


Killian Hayes
Ulm
G
Age: 19.2

Hayes has one of the wider draft ranges of any of the players in this tier of prospects, as he's getting looks from as high as Chicago (No. 4) and Detroit (No. 7). The glut of guards might ultimately push him down the board to Sacramento, which could use a solidly sized combo guard who can play alongside De'Aaron Fox while also taking over the backup point guard minutes.

Full Hayes scouting report

13. New Orleans Pelicans


Saddiq Bey
Villanova
F
Age: 21.5

New Orleans has an outstanding core of talent to build around and probably will look for pieces that complement its existing group. Adding shooting, strong on-court decision-making and defensive versatility probably will be a priority, and Bey ticks all of those boxes very well at 6-foot-8.

Full Bey scouting report

14. Boston Celtics (via MEM)


Kira Lewis Jr.
Alabama
G
Age: 19.6

Protecting the health of Kemba Walker, who has quite a few miles on his odometer, probably will be a priority as the Celtics try to position themselves for another deep playoff run. A young, speedy guard in Kira Lewis, who can both shoot and distribute, makes a lot of sense.

Full Lewis scouting report

15. Orlando Magic


RJ Hampton
New Zealand
G
Age: 19.7

Finding a guard who complements Markelle Fultz is probably a priority with D.J. Augustin and potentially Evan Fournier entering free agency. Enter Hampton, who has excellent size and speed with considerable room to grow on both ends of the floor and no glaring flaws that can't be overcome in time.

Full Hampton scouting report

16. Portland Trail Blazers


Tyrese Maxey
Kentucky
G
Age: 20.0

The Blazers' starting backcourt logged a ton of minutes this past season, something the team probably will look to address either in free agency or on draft night. A versatile combo guard like Maxey could make a lot of sense with his ability to defend multiple positions and play pick-and-roll.

Full Maxey scouting report

17. Minnesota Timberwolves (via BKN)


Precious Achiuwa
Memphis
F/C
Age: 21.1

This is probably the lower end of Achiuwa's range. Minnesota could certainly stand to add some depth at the power forward and center positions, as Achiuwa's versatility defensively and rim-running ability makes him an interesting fit alongside Karl-Anthony Towns.

Full Achiuwa scouting report

18. Dallas Mavericks


Aleksej Pokusevski
Olympiacos
F
Age: 18.8

GM Donnie Nelson has had considerable success with international prospects and could very well be intrigued by the upside of Pokusevski, the youngest player in the draft and arguably the most distinctive. A 7-footer who can dribble, pass and shoot, Pokusevski is several years away physically but has impressive versatility on both ends of the floor.

Full Pokusevski scouting report

19. Brooklyn Nets (via PHI)


Cole Anthony
North Carolina
G
Age: 20.4

The Nets are flush with ball handlers but have been active exploring backcourt options regardless, which makes sense considering it's the strength of this class. Anthony, a New York native who started the season projected in the top five, is an interesting buy-low candidate with proven scoring credentials and competitiveness.

Full Anthony scouting report

20. Miami Heat


Jalen Smith
Maryland
F
Age: 20.6

Like many big men in this draft, Smith has a fairly wide range, starting in the lottery and extending all the way to the mid-20s. His length, shooting range and rim-protection prowess should make him a fairly seamless fit on most NBA rosters as a modern stretch big man option, and his fit alongside a player like Bam Adebayo is particularly interesting.

Full Smith scouting report