Fake Trade Thread 2

Trey24 · Post #1941 » by **Trey24** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:08 am

I would rather keep Rozier as his catch and shoot is deadly next to a guy that can penetrate like Westbrook

Post #1942 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:09 am

No thanks to the stat padder.

amcoolio · Post #1943 » by **amcoolio** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:21 am

Trey24 wrote:I would rather keep Rozier as his catch and shoot is deadly next to a guy that can penetrate like Westbrook

If we take on Westbrook we shouldn’t have any other long term money except for our own recently drafted players and Devonte who needs an extension soon.

I do think we should trade for best available star on a big contract because they will be off the books by the time PJ/#3 pick/possibly Miles and Martin are up for extensions.

Plus Westbrook will be a massive expiring in 2022 and who knows what teams will be trying to get out of contracts for better players at the trade deadline that year.

Post #1944 » by **Diop** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:32 am

im sure Houston will probably look for more than our trash. how much are you willing to give up for him?

I can see Cleveland offering Love.

Post #1945 » by **Diop** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:33 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:I'm the only one here that wouldn't mind trading for Westbrook. That dude plays all out all the time. Its a joy watching him.

he does, but man he looked crappy at the end of last season.
I'm worried his ambition will outrun his ability as he gets older, less athletic.

Post #1946 » by **Diop** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:46 am

If we do smash the tank by trading for Westbrook, I would offer Philly Batum for Horford as well.

Horford is a smart centre who I think could play with Westbrook. Assuming all our veterans are used for trades:

Graham,
Westbrook, Monk
Miles, Thing 1 & 2
Pj, McDaniels
Horford, OO or Wiseman

Back on that playoff treadmill.

bravor · Post #1947 » by **bravor** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:32 am

Sacrificing the tank just before two (or more) potential picks that could turn this franchise into a legit contender in a few years would be beyond dumb imo.
I'd rather see a young talent turning into a star instead of a mid 30 old star turning into a grand pa in no time.

The pieces (Rozier/Batum/Miles/Zeller) Hornets have should be used to land young assets or future picks. There are enough veteran in FA this year to fill the needs (Napier, Lopez, Noel etc etc etc) for cheap.
If there are future picks (1st, and none valuable outgoing from the Hornets) in a Horford or a Wiggins trade, count me in though.

Post #1948 » by **Diop** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:39 am

bravor wrote:Sacrificing the tank just before two (or more) potential picks that could turn this franchise into a legit contender in a few years would be beyond dumb imo.
I'd rather see a young talent turning into a star instead of a mid 30 old star turning into a grand pa in no time.

The pieces (Rozier/Batum/Miles/Zeller) Hornets have should be used to land young assets or future picks. There are enough veteran in FA this year to fill the needs (Napier, Lopez, Noel etc etc etc) for cheap.
If there are future picks (1st, and none valuable outgoing from the Hornets) in a Horford or a Wiggins trade, count me in though.

Agreed 100%

MasterIchiro · Post #1949 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:28 pm

With attendance, thus revenues, set to crash, teams will be looking to win with leaner rosters. Russ has a 47 million player option he will exercise as a 35 year old PG with high mileage, dominating the ball with high usage regular season plus playoffs who relies on athleticism and has never learned to space the floor. Happy 32 to Russ. Today is his birthday. He can squeeze a few good years out of the media spotlight in NY. They need a quick fix and have a venue + marketing muscle to sell him.

Big N-O for me. I'd rather stay lean and pursue COVID bargains like Harrell while teams looking to cut costs overpay in draft assets to unload pricey contracts like Al Horford or even Buddy Hield. With shrinking ticket sales we may see some insane overpays from teams looking to salary dump.

Trey24 · Post #1950 » by **Trey24** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:49 pm

amcoolio wrote:
Trey24 wrote:I would rather keep Rozier as his catch and shoot is deadly next to a guy that can penetrate like Westbrook

If we take on Westbrook we shouldn’t have any other long term money except for our own recently drafted players and Devonte who needs an extension soon.

I do think we should trade for best available star on a big contract because they will be off the books by the time PJ/#3 pick/possibly Miles and Martin are up for extensions.

Plus Westbrook will be a massive expiring in 2022 and who knows what teams will be trying to get out of contracts for better players at the trade deadline that year.

Contract - wise you are 100% right and I totally agree.

HornetJail · Post #1951 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:23 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:I'm the only one here that wouldn't mind trading for Westbrook. That dude plays all out all the time. Its a joy watching him.

As long as it's just Batum+Terry or something like that. If we're throwing in any kind of young asset, I'm moving on and continuing the rebuild. Not including #3, Devonte', PJ, Miles, Monk, probably not McDaniels either.

James Gatz · Post #1952 » by **James Gatz** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:59 pm

So for people who want Westbrook what is the ceiling of that team? 7 seed? I just don't get it. I want our team to be more than a first round sweep. Even younger Westbrook on his own couldn't get you much farther than that.

We'd still no doubt be worse than:

Bucks
Raps
Cs
Heat
Sixers
Nets

Similar to:
Pacers
Hawks

Liver_Pooty · Post #1953 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:01 pm

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:I'm the only one here that wouldn't mind trading for Westbrook. That dude plays all out all the time. Its a joy watching him.

As long as it's just Batum+Terry or something like that. If we're throwing in any kind of young asset, I'm moving on and continuing the rebuild. Not including #3, Devonte', PJ, Miles, Monk, probably not McDaniels either.

Agreed

LofJ · Post #1954 » by **LofJ** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:09 pm

This team and by extension Jordan really lucked out starting a rebuild the same year that covid blew up the economy. We would be crazy to throw that away. This is the perfect year to continue a rebuild, stick with it for one more season. We'll come out the other side with a clear cap and be flush with young players still on their rookie deals.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #1955 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:12 pm

Read on Twitter

driveandkick · Post #1956 » by **driveandkick** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:15 pm

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:

Read on Twitter

This would be very smart

Post #1957 » by **JDR720** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:54 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/260209/Hornets-Interested-In-Trading-For-Russell-Westbrook

Thoughts? It'd for sure take the 3rd pick. personally I wouldn't do it.

JMAC3 · Post #1958 » by **JMAC3** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:55 pm

Think it’s unlikely we trade for Russ even with reports I think it’s more of a 2+2 situation that Hornets said we could accept salary dump.

Funny how casual fans think we are required to give up 3rd pick for him lol.

My guess is once Suns get CP3 Knicks might pivot to a Russ move and let himself play his last good basketball there.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1959 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:56 pm

I think instead of focusing on what we would give up in a Westbrook trade we need to focus on what Houston would give up to get out of that contract. They essentially gave up all their first rounders for the next 400 years in the Paul trade.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1960 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:01 pm

JDR720 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/260209/Hornets-Interested-In-Trading-For-Russell-Westbrook

Thoughts? It'd for sure take the 3rd pick. personally I wouldn't do it.

Won't take anything near the 3rd pick. Rozier, Zeller and 32 might get it done, but I'd ask something from Houston to take that contract on as its a net negative