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Post#141 » by getrichordie » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:03 am

EMG518 wrote:Disappointed with Achiuwas measurements. I didn't expect him to be under 6'8" bare foot. He looked taller on tape. I guess that makes more sense though with how athletic the guy is.


where did you see his measurements?
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Post#142 » by EMG518 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:28 am

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EMG518 wrote:Disappointed with Achiuwas measurements. I didn't expect him to be under 6'8" bare foot. He looked taller on tape. I guess that makes more sense though with how athletic the guy is.


where did you see his measurements?


Someone posted it in the Knicks forum, it's on the NBAs website. All the measurements, small pool though of players tested.
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Post#143 » by EMG518 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:35 am

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EMG518 wrote:Disappointed with Achiuwas measurements. I didn't expect him to be under 6'8" bare foot. He looked taller on tape. I guess that makes more sense though with how athletic the guy is.


I don’t know what you’d expect. I was expecting to be around 6’8. He’s an undersized 5 who has the best motor in this draft. I think he can be as good of a defender as Okoro and both have a very similar skills with different kinds of athleticism and bodies at different positions. Plus Bam Adebayo was 6’8 without shoes. Still I’m very curious where guys like Achiuwa and Okoro go. These guys aren’t good free throw shooters, they’re pretty raw overall, but both are high-end fast-break players who can really defend. Typically these guys fall in the draft farther than projections, like Nassir Little and Keldon Johnson last year. It’ll be interesting to see if both fall or neither do.


I thought he would be like 6'9" without shoes, 6'10" with. If Achiuwa falls he will be a steal. I have him high. He can be a top defender in the league, can rebound, and will be hard to stop in the flow of the offense rolling to the basket and on the offensive boards. All he needs to work on is expanding his game, it already translates.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Combine Thread 

Post#144 » by EMG518 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:42 am

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Disappointed with Achiuwas measurements. I didn't expect him to be under 6'8" bare foot. He looked taller on tape. I guess that makes more sense though with how athletic the guy is.


He never looked as big or athletic as some like to advertise when I watched him. I think he is a late R1 talent. Pure hustle guy.


He can defend in any position you ask him too, he can rebound, he is extremely athletic, he is going to cause problems for other players. He should be in the lottery.
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Post#145 » by BostonCouchGM » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:00 pm

EMG518 wrote:Disappointed with Achiuwas measurements. I didn't expect him to be under 6'8" bare foot. He looked taller on tape. I guess that makes more sense though with how athletic the guy is.


yeah, I was shocked. Also shocked after being told for months Robert Woodard was 6'7" in socks, he's actually 6'5.5". It completely blows my contention that he's in GOAT territory as a physical specimen. He's still in elite company due to the 7'2" wingspan and he's clearly worked his butt off because he's at 4.5% body fat. Another shocker was Tyrell Terry having 6'1.75" wingspan at just 6'1". He's smaller than even Trae Young. These measurements shouldn't really surprise us. They, their agents and coaches lie to drive up their draft stock. When official sneakers off measurements of current players came out awhile ago most of these players were 2+ inches shorter than NBA announcers and fans say they are while discussing them. KD is 6'9" not 6'11" or even 7' like so many claimed. Klay is 6'5", AD is 6'9.5".
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Post#146 » by BostonCouchGM » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:02 pm

getrichordie wrote:
EMG518 wrote:Disappointed with Achiuwas measurements. I didn't expect him to be under 6'8" bare foot. He looked taller on tape. I guess that makes more sense though with how athletic the guy is.


where did you see his measurements?


https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?dir=1&sort=HEIGHT_W_SHOES
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Post#147 » by doordoor123 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:02 am

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EMG518 wrote:Disappointed with Achiuwas measurements. I didn't expect him to be under 6'8" bare foot. He looked taller on tape. I guess that makes more sense though with how athletic the guy is.


yeah, I was shocked. Also shocked after being told for months Robert Woodard was 6'7" in socks, he's actually 6'5.5". It completely blows my contention that he's in GOAT territory as a physical specimen. He's still in elite company due to the 7'2" wingspan and he's clearly worked his butt off because he's at 4.5% body fat. Another shocker was Tyrell Terry having 6'1.75" wingspan at just 6'1". He's smaller than even Trae Young. These measurements shouldn't really surprise us. They, their agents and coaches lie to drive up their draft stock. When official sneakers off measurements of current players came out awhile ago most of these players were 2+ inches shorter than NBA announcers and fans say they are while discussing them. KD is 6'9" not 6'11" or even 7' like so many claimed. Klay is 6'5", AD is 6'9.5".


Yeah, that's why Terry was pushing his athleticism dunking in workouts. This is pretty big news for him. It should hurt his stock.
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Post#148 » by EMG518 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:19 am

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EMG518 wrote:Disappointed with Achiuwas measurements. I didn't expect him to be under 6'8" bare foot. He looked taller on tape. I guess that makes more sense though with how athletic the guy is.


yeah, I was shocked. Also shocked after being told for months Robert Woodard was 6'7" in socks, he's actually 6'5.5". It completely blows my contention that he's in GOAT territory as a physical specimen. He's still in elite company due to the 7'2" wingspan and he's clearly worked his butt off because he's at 4.5% body fat. Another shocker was Tyrell Terry having 6'1.75" wingspan at just 6'1". He's smaller than even Trae Young. These measurements shouldn't really surprise us. They, their agents and coaches lie to drive up their draft stock. When official sneakers off measurements of current players came out awhile ago most of these players were 2+ inches shorter than NBA announcers and fans say they are while discussing them. KD is 6'9" not 6'11" or even 7' like so many claimed. Klay is 6'5", AD is 6'9.5".


Yeah, that's why Terry was pushing his athleticism dunking in workouts. This is pretty big news for him. It should hurt his stock.


If I were his agent I would have kept him away from the combine
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Post#149 » by DirtyDez » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:25 am

EMG518 wrote:Disappointed with Achiuwas measurements. I didn't expect him to be under 6'8" bare foot. He looked taller on tape. I guess that makes more sense though with how athletic the guy is.


His reach is over 9ft. Who cares how tall he is.
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Post#150 » by EMG518 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:43 am

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EMG518 wrote:Disappointed with Achiuwas measurements. I didn't expect him to be under 6'8" bare foot. He looked taller on tape. I guess that makes more sense though with how athletic the guy is.


His reach is over 9ft. Who cares how tall he is.


I care, he is undersized at the 5 now with those measurements. He barely cleared 9' and 7' for reach and wingspan and he is only 6'7.5" bare foot and 238lbs. Any shorter on any of those measurements and it would have been real detrimental to his draft stock. He might have some issues guarding the bigger centers in the league.
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Post#151 » by MemphisX » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:55 am

EMG518 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
EMG518 wrote:Disappointed with Achiuwas measurements. I didn't expect him to be under 6'8" bare foot. He looked taller on tape. I guess that makes more sense though with how athletic the guy is.


His reach is over 9ft. Who cares how tall he is.


I care, he is undersized at the 5 now with those measurements. He barely cleared 9' and 7' for reach and wingspan and he is only 6'7.5" bare foot and 238lbs. Any shorter on any of those measurements and it would have been real detrimental to his draft stock. He might have some issues guarding the bigger centers in the league.



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Post#152 » by No-Man » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:01 pm

Achiuwa's got plenty of size, he was always listed at 6'9 in shoes, so 6'7.5 bf is totally normal, I don't get what you were expecting lol
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Post#153 » by SeattleJazzFan » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:35 pm

EMG518 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
EMG518 wrote:Disappointed with Achiuwas measurements. I didn't expect him to be under 6'8" bare foot. He looked taller on tape. I guess that makes more sense though with how athletic the guy is.


His reach is over 9ft. Who cares how tall he is.


I care, he is undersized at the 5 now with those measurements. He barely cleared 9' and 7' for reach and wingspan and he is only 6'7.5" bare foot and 238lbs. Any shorter on any of those measurements and it would have been real detrimental to his draft stock. He might have some issues guarding the bigger centers in the league.


precious isn't a 5 in the nba. hell, he wasn't supposed to be a 5 at memphis.
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Post#154 » by eminence » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:22 pm

Was Tillman always that heavy?

And oh lord my man Cassius is slow.
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Post#155 » by doordoor123 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:48 pm

eminence wrote:Was Tillman always that heavy?

And oh lord my man Cassius is slow.


It’s going to hurt his defense mostly
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Post#156 » by doordoor123 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:49 pm

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EMG518 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
His reach is over 9ft. Who cares how tall he is.


I care, he is undersized at the 5 now with those measurements. He barely cleared 9' and 7' for reach and wingspan and he is only 6'7.5" bare foot and 238lbs. Any shorter on any of those measurements and it would have been real detrimental to his draft stock. He might have some issues guarding the bigger centers in the league.


precious isn't a 5 in the nba. hell, he wasn't supposed to be a 5 at memphis.


Well he played better at the 5 than he did at the 4.
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Post#157 » by Ruzious » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:56 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
EMG518 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
His reach is over 9ft. Who cares how tall he is.


I care, he is undersized at the 5 now with those measurements. He barely cleared 9' and 7' for reach and wingspan and he is only 6'7.5" bare foot and 238lbs. Any shorter on any of those measurements and it would have been real detrimental to his draft stock. He might have some issues guarding the bigger centers in the league.


precious isn't a 5 in the nba. hell, he wasn't supposed to be a 5 at memphis.

I think he's a 5 even though he wanted to be a 4 playing with Wiseman. He's long enough, he's strong enough, and his explosiveness adds to his ability to play C. And he might be the best rebounder in this draft.
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Post#158 » by big-shot-ROB » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:43 pm

Achiuwa can only play the 4 next to perimeter bigs such as KAT, Jokic.
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Post#159 » by doordoor123 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:57 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:Achiuwa can only play the 4 next to perimeter bigs such as KAT, Jokic.


Thats not true. He can defend the wing really well and can defend in the paint. He'll be really valuable in the playoffs against guys like LeBron. Offensively he might clog the lane a little because he's such a great offensive rebounder, but he can hit an open 3. He is better suited for a 5 because he can defend in the paint, is a strong rebounder and can sprint the floor with the ball. A lot of 5s wont be able to keep up with him. Its the reason he was so successful at the 5 in college. I do wonder how he plays against the more physical, strong and long players in the NBA, but there are a lot of guys that are still skinny and a lot of guys that arent too strong.
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Post#160 » by clyde21 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:18 pm

Achiuwa was never a 5 in the first place
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