2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread III

[thinktank]

With Ball working out for three more teams after his second meeting and first workout with Wolves, it's safe to say the Wolves didn't promise to take him at No. 1. I'm really starting to believe the Wolves are taking Wiseman No. 1 - either to keep or to trade. The dream scenario of trading down to No. 3 and gaining assets and then trading down to No. 7 and gaining more assets seem to be on the table.

I don't think Minnesota drafts higher than No. 7.

Agreed.

Rosas doing a nice job of smokescreening.

We’re not taking Ball. I’m about 95% confident.

[Domejandro]

With Ball working out for three more teams after his second meeting and first workout with Wolves, it's safe to say the Wolves didn't promise to take him at No. 1. I'm really starting to believe the Wolves are taking Wiseman No. 1 - either to keep or to trade. The dream scenario of trading down to No. 3 and gaining assets and then trading down to No. 7 and gaining more assets seem to be on the table.

I don't think Minnesota drafts higher than No. 7.

Agreed.

Rosas doing a nice job of smokescreening.

We’re not taking Ball. I’m about 95% confident.

Disagree with that assertion. Minnesota would never throw away their hand by making a promise, given that they are still in discussions to trade the pick. You never make a promise to a player if there is a chance you will not select them with your pick, that hurts your credibility with agents.

Minnesota is not going to make a promise, but there legitimately is nothing tangible you can glean from that.

[KGdaBom]

With Ball working out for three more teams after his second meeting and first workout with Wolves, it's safe to say the Wolves didn't promise to take him at No. 1. I'm really starting to believe the Wolves are taking Wiseman No. 1 - either to keep or to trade. The dream scenario of trading down to No. 3 and gaining assets and then trading down to No. 7 and gaining more assets seem to be on the table.

I don't think Minnesota drafts higher than No. 7.

Agreed.

Rosas doing a nice job of smokescreening.

We’re not taking Ball. I’m about 95% confident.

Have you ever met this guy named Murphy?
He has a law.

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[urinesane]

Playing devils advocate, it's in our best interest to keep everyone guessing and leak that we like guys even if we don't.
If we zero in on Wiseman, the teams looking to trade up for Ball start dealing with the Warriors,
And vice versa if we zero in on Ball...

How about they show some interest in any of the other players? You know, the ones all the teams right behind us at picks 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 are just waiting the calendars until they are theirs. No, we have to just talk about the two projects of the top hyped 3 because...reasons.

Again, it's Supply and Demand. You don't hype the top 10 prospects if you're #1, then it makes it look like a way deeper draft. You hype all 3 of the guys that are considered possible #1 picks and make all of the value seem heavily weighted at the top of the draft (driving up the perceived value of your pick at the top).

[urinesane]

Hell, if we really want the Wolves to be successful, we should probably stop arguing amongst the top 3 and just hype all of them as much as we can.

Oh not you too.

Just saying, if we want max value in a trade down scenario (I want them to pick Wiseman regardless of anything else).

[karch34]

What amazes me is that in a draft where its accepted there's no clear cut #1, but a lot of potentially good depth with some upside if X is fixed that there's been pretty much unanimous consensus there's 3 top players.

Right?

I have yet to find a single person show how these big three are actually better at anything over the players all slotted for later.

Edwards is the one grown up body size guy that people claim can score at all three levels. That's if you accept his 3pt% as a positive thing or can somehow get him to increase it 5% and learn to play with a team.

Wiseman is the freak size/athlete guy without enough college proof but with chance to be an insane talent. No reassurance on skill level play yet.

Ball, passing, maybe. Not sure how passing exists without game IQ at this level, but whatevs.

Now compare to the many other players in this draft with passing, game iq, 3pt shooting ability, FT shooting ability, and high defensive play or at least defensive awareness. Nevermind them, we need to focus on the Hyped Big Three that nobody can decide between.

I'd like to see where the projections began prior to the season for most and see if there was any changes. I know with lack of full season and tournament the movement isn't the same but it just seems weird in a year where there's no clear cut that it seems to have stayed the 3 guys with either plus size, athleticism, or passing but question marks in almost every other area are on an accepted tier above similar pluses and minuses. I'm not saying they're wrong, but I think it was Rusillo that talked about group think by media that carries over to GMs to some degree. Analogy is you feel Nesmith best player but since he's mocked end of lottery at highest you can't justify taking him higher....Anthony Bennett of course being the devil's advocate against that.

[Jedzz]

Seen a few chirps out there on KAT ... is the guy in or out? I got a vide that the DLo addition has not helped as much as hoped. It has been pretty quiet.

Maybe he wants to start a new life back out on the west coast with Clippers or Lakers. They can trade us their worst players and worthless #29/30 picks of the future if either of them even have one to trade in the next 10 years.


Capella, Reddish, #6 and 2021 FRP only protected for #1 from Atlanta. Do they have their #1 next yr?

This is a big year for the Towns/Timberwolves relationship.
If Minnesota..
1. Has a losing year and isn't close to .500
2. New ownership fires Rosas and Saunders

I could see Towns wanting out. He's had so little continuity (3 head coaches, 3 GMs) that I don't think he wants to hang around for another "start over."

That's why Wiseman is the best pick. With new owners coming in, even a successful season could lead to a new coach and POBO and I think Towns will want to walk if Rosas and Saunders are gone.

Could be right. But he'll have to try and hold out and push out because he's locked up for many more years than that now. Frankly, if the team is a straight up pile again this coming season it means both He and Dlo failed to perform enough during the season and I'll be ready to see him gone at that point anyway. Rosas could make or break this team with this draft alone. He has to get the choices right and this team needs to be a nightly competitor for it to have a chance to hold things together through an owner change. No more of these 5-10 game losing streaks. Otherwise I agree it's getting blown up anyway.

[Jedzz]

What amazes me is that in a draft where its accepted there's no clear cut #1, but a lot of potentially good depth with some upside if X is fixed that there's been pretty much unanimous consensus there's 3 top players.

Right?

I have yet to find a single person show how these big three are actually better at anything over the players all slotted for later.

Edwards is the one grown up body size guy that people claim can score at all three levels. That's if you accept his 3pt% as a positive thing or can somehow get him to increase it 5% and learn to play with a team.

Wiseman is the freak size/athlete guy without enough college proof but with chance to be an insane talent. No reassurance on skill level play yet.

Ball, passing, maybe. Not sure how passing exists without game IQ at this level, but whatevs.

Now compare to the many other players in this draft with passing, game iq, 3pt shooting ability, FT shooting ability, and high defensive play or at least defensive awareness. Nevermind them, we need to focus on the Hyped Big Three that nobody can decide between.

I'd like to see where the projections began prior to the season for most and see if there was any changes. I know with lack of full season and tournament the movement isn't the same but it just seems weird in a year where there's no clear cut that it seems to have stayed the 3 guys with either plus size, athleticism, or passing but question marks in almost every other area are on an accepted tier above similar pluses and minuses. I'm not saying they're wrong, but I think it was Rusillo that talked about group think by media that carries over to GMs to some degree. Analogy is you feel Nesmith best player but since he's mocked end of lottery at highest you can't justify taking him higher....Anthony Bennett of course being the devil's advocate against that.

100%

[Jedzz]

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[Macwolf527]

I see the Wolves fishing for an athletic forward for the SF spot. Think a taller Okogie with 33-36% from the 3 area. That why I see Bridges from Charlotte or Okoro from Auburn in the draft as possibilities.

Getting to 6 in the draft has Okoro written on it to me. My thoughts are they want to create defensive flexibility from 2 to 4. Someone 6’6” at 225+ pounds gives you the the ability to defend big guards or mobile forwards. That creates a bit of flexibility trading down from the 1st pick to 3rd or 4th.

[No-Man]

The only sourced mock out there is ESPN's the rest are either copying Givony, guessing or bullshitting their way through, bringing any other one as proof of anything is just a loss of time

[Norseman79]

I see the Wolves fishing for an athletic forward for the SF spot. Think a taller Okogie with 33-36% from the 3 area. That why I see Bridges from Charlotte or Okoro from Auburn in the draft as possibilities.

Getting to 6 in the draft has Okoro written on it to me. My thoughts are they want to create defensive flexibility from 2 to 4. Someone 6’6” at 225+ pounds gives you the the ability to defend big guards or mobile forwards. That creates a bit of flexibility trading down from the 1st pick to 3rd or 4th.

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[Dewey]

I see the Wolves fishing for an athletic forward for the SF spot. Think a taller Okogie with 33-36% from the 3 area. That why I see Bridges from Charlotte or Okoro from Auburn in the draft as possibilities.

Getting to 6 in the draft has Okoro written on it to me. My thoughts are they want to create defensive flexibility from 2 to 4. Someone 6’6” at 225+ pounds gives you the the ability to defend big guards or mobile forwards. That creates a bit of flexibility trading down from the 1st pick to 3rd or 4th.

I think Deni Avdija & Patrick Williams forecast better simply because they’d pair up better with Kat at either Forward position ... none of the 3 are gonna light it up scoring yet all are pretty gritty defenders. Deni is more skilled, but Okoro and Williams are superior athletes.

[shrink]

FWIW

I listened to the Dunc’d On Mock Off-season. Danny LaRouix took LaMelo #1

I also listened to Duncan and Hollinger. Both thought LaMelo was the clear choice at #1.

[Jedzz]

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[thinktank]

FWIW

I listened to the Dunc’d On Mock Off-season. Danny LaRouix took LaMelo #1

I also listened to Duncan and Hollinger. Both thought LaMelo was the clear choice at #1.

If that’s how GMs feel, then Rosas should come out squeaky clean.

I think we trade down and accrue more value in the long run

[Battletrigger]

Pick Lamelo only because it's what most of the experts say only carries you to pick Wes Johnson over Paul George. You are paid for a scouting job, not for reading ESPN.

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[Dewey]

Pick Lamelo only because it's what most of the experts say only carries you to pick Wes Johnson over Paul George. You are paid for a scouting job, not for reading ESPN.

We got a bingo!!!! Couldn’t agree more. These “experts” are as annoying as $hit