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2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go

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Obi Toppin
12
12%
Tyrese Maxey
4
4%
Isaac Okoro
9
9%
Killian Hayes
33
33%
Aaron Nesmith
4
4%
RJ Hampton
2
2%
Kira Lewis
25
25%
Patrick Williams
2
2%
Devin Vassell
3
3%
Other
5
5%
 
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1681 » by HEZI » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:25 am

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Berman should just retire :lol:


'Dude costs 40 million a year how is he on the discount rack?


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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1682 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:26 am

Richard4444 wrote:A WB can be competitive if you surround him with good 3&D guys.

Do we have any good 3&D guys?

We need an entirely new roster to work.


If Westbrook was 20 years old you wouldnt seeing him push for New York, we aint stupid

Like how KD Kyrie tried so desperately to come to NY for their retirement party, thankfully Dolan was having none of it
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1683 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:27 am

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true no guarantee, but that's something you can gauge before making a deal by surveying teams in the 15-20 range about whether or not they're open to moving down

18 is not bad at all IMO. essentially guaranteed 1 of: Hampton, Maxey, Green, Bey, Smith, Terry


What are your thoughts on Mason Jones from Arizona? Looks like he can ball.


Arkansas

he looks solid, definitely seems underrated (DX has him #73). he can flat out score; was a 3 level scorer in college. the downside w/ him is that he's not really a + athlete


Yeah...Razorback...I was high when...well... I'm still high but yeah...that dude. Does he play any D?
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1684 » by knickstape4ever » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:27 am

you'd think the fact that nobody wants Russ would make the Knicks feel differently about him....

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Post#1685 » by F N 11 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:28 am

HEZI wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
HEZI wrote:
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Berman should just retire :lol:


'Dude costs 40 million a year how is he on the discount rack?


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Lmao!! Let’s go we playing hard ball. Stay the course.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1686 » by knickstape4ever » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:29 am

HEZI wrote:
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HEZI wrote:
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Berman should just retire :lol:


'Dude costs 40 million a year how is he on the discount rack?


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yep, wouldn't take Russ even if they didn't have to send anything in return for him

tbh, I'd even be hesitant if the Rockets were willing to attach picks
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1687 » by Chanel Bomber » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:33 am

El Poochio wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:A WB can be competitive if you surround him with good 3&D guys.

Do we have any good 3&D guys?

We need an entirely new roster to work.


If Westbrook was 20 years old you wouldnt seeing him push for New York, we aint stupid

Like how KD Kyrie tried so desperately to come to NY for their retirement party, thankfully Dolan was having none of it

They didn't come to the Knicks because they didn't want to come to the Knicks, not because the Knicks didn't want them.

The story about Dolan not green-lighting KD's contract because of the achilles was just to save face.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1688 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:33 am

I would take Russ for a similar deal OKC pulled, if they completely mortgaged their future to us, too bad their future already mortgaged to OKC
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1689 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:36 am

Chanel Bomber wrote:
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Richard4444 wrote:A WB can be competitive if you surround him with good 3&D guys.

Do we have any good 3&D guys?

We need an entirely new roster to work.


If Westbrook was 20 years old you wouldnt seeing him push for New York, we aint stupid

Like how KD Kyrie tried so desperately to come to NY for their retirement party, thankfully Dolan was having none of it

They didn't come to the Knicks because they didn't want to come to the Knicks, not because the Knicks didn't want them.

The story about Dolan not green-lighting KD's contract because of the achilles was just to save face.


They were so desperate to come to Knicks they were ready to build new facilities from ground up, and KD still butthurt Dolan vetoed his skinny azz, just like Westbrook now and Melo before
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Post#1690 » by F N 11 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:40 am

We should probably prepare to lose one of our favorite young players on the roster.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1691 » by DaGawd » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:42 am

F N 11 wrote:We should probably prepare to lose one of our favorite young players on the roster.

Our favorites all suck.. no big loss
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Post#1692 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:42 am

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y'all are melting down over nothing :lol: They're not gonna just accept a salary dump of Russ cuz Randle isn't going to help them win. We only make sense if Houston is doing a complete tear down and that's not happening.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1693 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:42 am

I guess taking on Westbrook's 50 million dollar contract is smokescreen for coming away the draft with Kira + RJ + Terry + Cole
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Post#1694 » by bleedblue3303 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:43 am

I posted this in trades and transactions. But I feel so strongly about this I am posting this here as well

I said it before but I think it needs repeating.
I really don't understand the logic. Westbrook couldn't handle the media in OKC. He was constantly at odds with them. He is not built for NYC media. That is a real thing and paired with his personality would be a recipe for disaster.

Do you really think this is going to go over well?. This isn't OKC, this will make national news and cause us nothing but Drama and further perpetuate the circus we are trying so desperately to change from and avoid.

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1695 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:45 am

Drafting Obi and Lolsell = also smokescreens
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1696 » by Br00kLyn » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:46 am

literally nobody from the knicks organization has said anything public about trading for Russ and more than half yall acting like the trade is complete and they signed him to an extension on top of his contract
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Post#1697 » by robillionaire » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:47 am

all of this is a smokescreen for the trade up to lamelo, the westbrook rumor is the softener so you can say at least they didn't trade for westbrook
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1698 » by DaGawd » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:50 am

robillionaire wrote:all of this is a smokescreen for the trade up to lamelo, the westbrook rumor is the softener so you can say at least they didn't trade for westbrook

That would equally piss me Off...
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Post#1699 » by knickstape4ever » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:51 am

Br00kLyn wrote:literally nobody from the knicks organization has said anything public about trading for Russ and more than half yall acting like the trade is complete and they signed him to an extension on top of his contract


well that not really how trades work. teams don't just tell the media "we're gonna trade for [Players X]"

there are rumors it could happen, and that scares the sh*t out of some fans, and rightfully so
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#1700 » by lcd88 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:54 am

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I mean its clear whoever is willing to get robbed Is getting the top 2 picks. Knicks has been always the ones being robbed. If the Knicks did that Leon Rose would be the worst hire ever. No different than any front office in the past. Please prove that we have a competent front office after so many years.

The Leon Rose regime will be a disaster, just like Phil Jackson and Steve Mills were, albeit for different reasons.

He's a former player agent with no experience as an NBA executive. Sure, he's surrounded himself with some qualified technocrats but he has the vision. Why did James Dolan hire him? What vision did he sell to Dolan during their meetings, as a former player agent? His connections, and ultimately his ability to bring stars to New York (particularly Booker-KAT-DLo I would imagine), not his understanding of the game of basketball.


if they get Russ, I will absolutely consider this FO a failure and would want them fired immediately

Russ accomplishes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING besides pleasing the casual knick fan

he turns this into a treadmill team: good enough to not land a top draft pick, but not good enough to be a playoff contender (or even playoff team tbh) + his salary makes it nearly impossible to get another star FA. who wants to play w/ a declining Russ?

we'd be subjected to the Russell Westbrook show for the next 3 years

being a Knicks fan is literally the worst. you can't abandon the team, it's in our blood yet its such an abusive, toxic relationship


I would imagine the interview went like this .
Dolan: What can you do to make the team better?
Rose: Get "Stars" and sell tickets.
Dolan: You're hired!!

Can't imagine the amount of bricks we will see flying on the court with Westbrook every night and its not even only him throwing bricks.

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