2020 Preseason Speculation - Lineup battles underway

[Revived]

I’m proud of this forum that most of us seem to be in agreement that swapping Rubio (and more) for a 36 yr old CP3 is a horrific idea.

When CP3 inevitably gets injured before March, this trade won’t look any more foolish than it already it does now.

Of course similar to the 2018 draft, there will be some idiots here who say “Oh well hindsight is 2020 who knew CP3 would get injured” as if his career history isn’t obviously telling.

If Vegas allowed bidding on injuries, I’d bet a ton on Chris Paul and retire early.

[alamin330]

Why are Suns fans so adamant about not trading 10? It's a weak draft. If all you lose is Oubre (Rubio old and never been a superstar) that's a deal worth making for an All Star.

For me, its value. I think for CP3 at his age and contract, Rubio, Oubre and Jerome is value for OKC . Now if you want to flop 10 for 25 or 28, save some cap space and still get a player on a rookie deal, I probably would be somewhat okay with that. As that 2+m of cap space combined with Jerome might be very beneficial in getting Gallinari here.

If you keep worrying about what other teams get you’ll never make a good trade. Every team wants to win. It’s about finding pieces that fit together and forming a winning team. Oubre, Rubio is better value than just CP3. But the context is what’s better value for a player who’s becoming disgruntled? I would say CP3.
Booker has never played with a guy who commands respect around the league. I feel like he’s the only one with that type of talent who has never had the benefit of playing with another highly respected player.
It’s time to realize we have a superstar.
Lakers traded Shaq to keep Kobe happy. So you gotta do why you gotta do. Would you keep Sasha vujacic or Jordan farmar or even Lamar Odom over a guy Kobe Bryant is asking for?

[Saberestar]

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[Saberestar]

Collecting all players around the league, who are on their last legs. Great plan after sucking for 10 years to build a young and promising team.

If they bring a bunch of old players on 1-2 year contracts, then Ayton better turn into a superstar as Booker is definitely out in two seasons.

We already have Booker, Cam, Bridges, Ayton and (hopefully) #10. Then we have Lecque, Jerome, etc...

Those are 5 core players that are 24 yo or younger. You need to balance your core players adding nice veteran players to win night in and night out in this league.

Just look the average age for the last two Champs, Raptors and Lakers.

5 ? My post was in reaction to Cam being shopped, no idea is it's true, maybe not. #10 ( ), Lecque( ), Jerome( ) core players ? I don't think Bridges has an upside of a star player, more like high end role player, so that leaves Ayton for me, who may turn into a star player, superstar - very unlikely. Usually the veteran players on the contending teams are the cheapest, not the most expensive players.

I wanted to say that we have enough young players as part as our core. And yeah, I count 5 important players on the rotation for us being 24yo at most. Those are Booker, Bridges, Ayton, Cam and whoever we draft at #10.

I added Lecque and Jerome as a young prospects that we already have on the roster, so we need to balance all that inexperience with good veteran players. I am not saying to add Jared Dudley, we need to add very good players who can play starting roles.

CP3, Gallinari, Tucker..,all those guys are high level yet and we can get them because they are in the market for different reasons. Big opportunity for us with our cap space and youngsters on cheap rookie contracts.

[Sunsdeuce]

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Have no idea who this guy is but apparently he has 1000s of followers and is legit (unlike some people we know)

That being said. Why we toying with grandpa Paul when we should be in on a quality prize.

[BobbieL]

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That being said. Why we toying with grandpa Paul when we should be in on a quality prize.

Philly should be all over this. I personally do not want Harden with Booker. Booker is our scorer. The ball would stop with Harden and never get to Booker. CP3 makes more sense than Harden and would be cheaper.

The Nets are intersted in Ibaka. So, Durant, Harden, Kyrie and Ibaka - good luck Nash if that happens

[matt131]

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Only mentions Cam after Andrew brings it up.

Talks about how C being in the trade isn't a big deal

Next day, refutes cam is in the trade after Gambo denies it

Perhaps they all have the same source. Who knows

[alamin330]

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Have no idea who this guy is but apparently he has 1000s of followers and is legit (unlike some people we know)

That being said. Why we toying with grandpa Paul when we should be in on a quality prize.

Philly should be all over this. I personally do not want Harden with Booker. Booker is our scorer. The ball would stop with Harden and never get to Booker. CP3 makes more sense than Harden and would be cheaper.

The Nets are intersted in Ibaka. So, Durant, Harden, Kyrie and Ibaka - good luck Nash if that happens

I think Nash only problem would be Kyrie. Kyrie is a weird human being with a very uneducated view on life. I also think Kyrie is bipolar. So he’s a locker room cancer festering and I also think he’s extremely overrated. He’s a Lou Will disguised as an allstar because of his name

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Have no idea who this guy is but apparently he has 1000s of followers and is legit (unlike some people we know)

That being said. Why we toying with grandpa Paul when we should be in on a quality prize.

I'd offer Ayton plus filler (Ayton is the suns only path on this other than Booker)

Now I do admit him and Booker is kind of a weird fit where you'd have a little my turn your turn action but Harden is such a talent I'd be willing to take the chance it could work.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

Here's an interesting discussion. Say Brooklyn lands Harden I honestly don't think it's out of the question they would then trade Kyrie. Would you do Rubio, Oubre, Cam type deal for him? Brooklyns team would actually make more sense with that.

Personally I can't stand Kyrie and think he's a crazy person but dude does have talent.

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Have no idea who this guy is but apparently he has 1000s of followers and is legit (unlike some people we know)

That being said. Why we toying with grandpa Paul when we should be in on a quality prize.

I'd offer Ayton plus filler (Ayton is the suns only path on this other than Booker)

Now I do admit him and Booker is kind of a weird fit where you'd have a little my turn your turn action but Harden is such a talent I'd be willing to take the chance it could work.

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See I’m opposite. Ayton is untouchable. On top of that Harden/Rockets had their best success when they had a quality big. Harden and Ayton, OH MY , that’s dangerous.

[alamin330]

Here's an interesting discussion. Say Brooklyn lands Harden I honestly don't think it's out of the question they would then trade Kyrie. Would you do Rubio, Oubre, Cam type deal for him? Brooklyns team would actually make more sense with that.

Personally I can't stand Kyrie and think he's a crazy person but dude does have talent.

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I wouldn’t touch Kyrie with a 10 ft pole. Talk about someone who made his name riding Lebron then has the nerve to think he’s some kind of superstar. After his showing in Boston I’m convinced Kyrie is not a good teammate nor is he a guy who will lead you to the playoffs.

[alamin330]

I also wouldn’t trade for Harden. He’s really good but he’s a chemistry killer and super lazy. No accountability. Plus he doesn’t fit with Booker unless he changes his game. He’s also a choke artist.

[cberry78]

Here's an interesting discussion. Say Brooklyn lands Harden I honestly don't think it's out of the question they would then trade Kyrie. Would you do Rubio, Oubre, Cam type deal for him? Brooklyns team would actually make more sense with that.

Personally I can't stand Kyrie and think he's a crazy person but dude does have talent.

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Way too crazy for my tastes. The dude tried to argue the world was flat! And then that it wasn't! I mean, yeah, this is Arizona, but come on, we're not that bad.

Hard pass.

[El Hespiritu]

UNLEASH THE CHAOS!!

[WeekapaugGroove]

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Have no idea who this guy is but apparently he has 1000s of followers and is legit (unlike some people we know)

That being said. Why we toying with grandpa Paul when we should be in on a quality prize.

I'd offer Ayton plus filler (Ayton is the suns only path on this other than Booker)

Now I do admit him and Booker is kind of a weird fit where you'd have a little my turn your turn action but Harden is such a talent I'd be willing to take the chance it could work.

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See I’m opposite. Ayton is untouchable. On top of that Harden/Rockets had their best success when they had a quality big. Harden and Ayton, OH MY , that’s dangerous.

So would you trade Booker for him? I probably wouldn't unless behind the scenes I knew booker wanted out and that was going to be a thing in the next couple years.



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[KLEON]

I genuinely can't understand why you people want CP3. Rubio made this team better especially in the bubble while also improving his shooting. I just want to see this team together and hopefully keep the same momentum from the bubble

[darmani]

Flex is such an attention whore lol