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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#41 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:41 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Philly will not trade Simmons for Harden if Harden doesn't want to be there. Makes no sense. They could lose him in 2 years for nothing.

The question is does Houston want to trade him?

They already probably have to trade Westbrook. And likely go into the season with a circus with neither of their best players wanting to be there.

Instead they can rebuild and get a good draft pick.

The alternative is to trade Russ, keep Harden, flame out in the 1st round and then get less for him next off season.


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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#42 » by Claud » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:43 am

Why does it feel like IT'S HAPPENING. :o :o :o

This is INSANITY.

As much as I love our guys, THIS is the type player I would trade in all of our chips for.

Guys like Beal and Holiday are good players but not worth it, Harden on the other hand would be absolutely worth it.

People saying Kyrie-Harden-KD would not work are trippin.

ELITE talent with high BBIQ and absolute assasins. We would be a nightmare to play against. Great players find a way to make it work. If we can get them to buy in we're looking at something SPECIAL.

We already have tons of haters so adding a few more won't change much. I see fans of other teams already hating :lol: :lol:

They WISH they were in our position.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#43 » by DarkXaero » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:22 am

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/rockets/article/James-Harden-turns-down-Rockets-103-million-15732253.php?utm_campaign=CMS%20Sharing%20Tools%20(Premium)&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

An article from Houston Chronicle that backs up what Woj has said, while adding slightly more info:

James Harden on Monday went from interested to determined to make the career and franchise-changing move of leaving the Rockets for the Brooklyn Nets and took an unprecedented step to prove it.

Harden turned down the Rockets' offer of a two-year, $103 million contract extension, two individuals with knowledge of the offer confirmed on Monday. ESPN was the first to report the offer that would have had Harden, 31, under contract, for five more seasons.

The extension would have put Harden in line to become the highest-paid player in NBA history.

Harden made it clear that rather than likely finishing his career with the Rockets he wanted to be dealt to the Nets to play with Kevin Durant, his former Oklahoma City teammate, and Kyrie Irving. But he also indicated that he has no interest in going elsewhere and believes the Rockets should make the best deal with the Nets that they can, even if they do not consider it satisfactory.

The Rockets have been determined to strengthen their roster enough for Harden to feel confident about his championship chances if he remains and are willing to move slowly on any considerations of dealing their seven-time All-NBA guard.

Though the Nets have attractive assets to deal, starting with high-scoring guards Caris LeVert and Spencer Dinwiddie, the inability to offer a player viewed as a potential successor to Harden as a future superstar has left the Rockets resistant to the sort of move Harden is seeking, a person with knowledge of the team’s thinking said.

The Rockets have not engaged other teams in talks about Harden, the person familiar with the situation said, given that he only is interested in moving to the Nets and they don’t want to move him at all.

Similarly, he said that nothing was close on Monday in a potential deal of guard Russell Westbrook, finding few options initially that would move Westbrook and bring a return that would convince Harden that the Rockets can contend for a championship out of the loaded Western Conference.

Harden, the NBA’s leading scorer the past three seasons after leading the NBA in assists, has three seasons, worth $133 million, remaining on his contract, the last season at a player option.

The Rockets acquired Westbrook last offseason at Harden’s urging, trading Chris Paul and two lightly protected first-round picks, along with the right to swap draft positions in two other drafts, to the Thunder. Westbrook grew uncomfortable with his role in the Rockets’ offense, though the Rockets plan to make changes under first-year coach Stephen Silas and new general manager Rafael Stone.

The deal for Westbrook, however, has made the Rockets even more hesitant to begin rebuilding, given their lack of control over so many picks and a belief they can still be a factor in the Western Conference if Harden and Westbrook return with the right additions.

The Rockets on Monday did not consider the relationship with Harden to be broken, with conversations considered cordial if unable to sway Harden to reconsider his position. Just as he has spoken extensively with Durant and Irving about joining them with the Nets, he had spoken with Paul and Westbrook in previous offseasons, helping to lead to those trades.

The Rockets won 65 games and reached Game 7 of the Western Conference Finals in their first season with Paul but have not advanced past the second round in the two seasons since, sacrificing first-round picks each season. The Rockets do not have a selection in Wednesday’s draft and have not had a first-round pick since selecting Sam Dekker in 2015.

The fourth seed in last season’s playoffs, the Rockets’ top six rotation players are under contract, making them feel as if the right moves can bolster their chances to compete. Instead, their most important, highest-paid players have made it clear they want to be elsewhere, with Harden willing to go to expensive extremes to prove it.
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Post#44 » by therealbig3 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:43 am

Kind of funny how this went from Harden simply being interested in the Nets to now that's all he wants lol.
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Post#45 » by ecuhus1981 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:58 am

therealbig3 wrote:Kind of funny how this went from Harden simply being interested in the Nets to now that's all he wants lol.

Yeah, things escalated quickly.

I think James recognizes that Houston was not going to take his trade request seriously, unless he turned up the heat. Now, the Rockets may feel cornered to deal him, but the pure value we can offer (Levert/Prince/ Dinwiddie/Allen, plus #19/21BRK1st/23BRK1st/25BRK1st and pick swaps) is at least respectable. They're never going to get a future superstar like Trae, Jayson or Luka, and I believe we're the next best thing on the market in return.
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Post#46 » by Prokorov » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:01 am

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Post#47 » by Prokorov » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:12 am

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Post#48 » by Papi_swav » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:25 am

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Post#49 » by GTR11 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:27 am

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Post#50 » by Papi_swav » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:31 am

Dang it Covington just got traded, I really wanted him attached with Harden. But this just proves Rockets is blowing it up and Harden is coming home baby !
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#51 » by Paradise » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:32 am

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Post#52 » by Papi_swav » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:34 am

Jrue just got traded to the Bucks too for Bledsoe and Hill and picks. wow we could of definitely beat that offer, but we're getting the better player so. Im just glad Jrue isn't going to Boston.

Edit: 3 first round picks going to NO . Wow 3 picks for one player. Bucks needed to make a splash play anyway and are in win now mode.
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Post#53 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:42 am

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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#54 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:48 am

The price for Jrue was absurd. I'm glad we didn't pay it.
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Post#55 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:51 am

If Houston wants some insane price for Harden like 5 1st rounders I would rather just not do it.

I'm very comfortable with the team we have right now. We can look at add through MLE and draft. Just need a few defensive pieces.
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Post#56 » by Prokorov » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:57 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:If Houston wants some insane price for Harden like 5 1st rounders I would rather just not do it.

I'm very comfortable with the team we have right now. We can look at add through MLE and draft. Just need a few defensive pieces.


there is nothing absurd about 5 first rounders for Harden. we would be idiots not to make that deal. thats cheap given non are even guaranteed to be lotto.

we need to add to our team. we need a defender and/or to move one of dinwiddie or levert.
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Post#57 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:01 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:If Houston wants some insane price for Harden like 5 1st rounders I would rather just not do it.

I'm very comfortable with the team we have right now. We can look at add through MLE and draft. Just need a few defensive pieces.


there is nothing absurd about 5 first rounders for Harden. we would be idiots not to make that deal. thats cheap given non are even guaranteed to be lotto.

we need to add to our team. we need a defender and/or to move one of dinwiddie or levert.


Nope. I'm not giving up our entire future for Harden.

I'm confident in Marks be able to get defensive pieces through MLE, vet min, draft and smaller trades. Brown is a good start.

No need to trade Dinwiddie/Levert.
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Post#58 » by ecuhus1981 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:08 am

Paradise wrote:Houston is blowing it up!

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Post#59 » by ecuhus1981 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:11 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:The price for Jrue was absurd. I'm glad we didn't pay it.

To be clear, Milwaukee's situation makes it absurd. Giannis is in a walk year, and if he leaves they are hot garbage. Jrue won't stay for that, and those picks and pick swaps will all be mid-lottery or better.

Now, if we had paid Dinwiddie, Temple, Musa and 3 1sts, I wouldn't be pleased, but it wouldn't have been absurd. We're not a year away from losing everyone. Still, I'm OK with missing on him, we have bigger fish to fry.
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Post#60 » by StepBackCrack » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:24 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:If Houston wants some insane price for Harden like 5 1st rounders I would rather just not do it.

I'm very comfortable with the team we have right now. We can look at add through MLE and draft. Just need a few defensive pieces.


there is nothing absurd about 5 first rounders for Harden. we would be idiots not to make that deal. thats cheap given non are even guaranteed to be lotto.

we need to add to our team. we need a defender and/or to move one of dinwiddie or levert.


Totally agree with this. This is James freaking Harden we are talking about here!! A generational talent man! To me he gets quite underrated by the media and haters but he never was paired with a legit superstar in his career as a superstar player himself. Harden even with a 70% KD would wreck teams imo. Not to mention there is Kyrie!! These dudes are friends above all and all have high IQ. Plus they must bring him due to injury concerns if something happens to KD or Kyrie.

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