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machu46 · Post #241 » by **machu46** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:25 pm

That Scoop B hack is now pivoting to Boston FRANTICALLY trying to find a home for Hayward and Kemba so that they can acquire Harden.

tski1972 · Post #242 » by **tski1972** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:27 pm

I don’t trust any rumors unless it’s from Sports Whispers.

machu46 · Post #243 » by **machu46** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:33 pm

Kevin O'Connor saying Chicago has reached out to Boston about Kemba Walker.

Coach Carter · Post #244 » by **Coach Carter** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:34 pm

Harden in Boston would be kyrie 2.0. Boston got their harmony back and Stevens has the keys to the team again. A very good team that is. Not sure why you would mess with this.

Daver · Post #245 » by **Daver** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:41 pm

blazza18 wrote:
Bucksfan28 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:
Would you think that would be a good offer for Giannis?

Would Giannis be voicing similar wishes?

Edit: I also think Giannis is worth more just generally.

So a team should not seek out the highest possible value because the player voiced he'd prefer a certain team?

The Nets package is just awful. Would be one of the worst deals made for a star ever.

Agree absolutely especially if Philly offered Simmons or embroidery thats a no brainer

Bucksfan28 · Post #246 » by **Bucksfan28** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:42 pm

blazza18 wrote:
Bucksfan28 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:
Would you think that would be a good offer for Giannis?

Would Giannis be voicing similar wishes?

Edit: I also think Giannis is worth more just generally.

So a team should not seek out the highest possible value because the player voiced he'd prefer a certain team?

The Nets package is just awful. Would be one of the worst deals made for a star ever.

I imagine the pick haul would be substantial here. At some point there's a threshold where you have to realize it'll never be a perfect swap. Those Nets guys won't win you a ship but get yourself a ton of picks, compete for a year, and maybe move those guys for assets next offseason.

And yea, if the alternative is losing a guy for nothing in FA (which I realize James is two years away from), it kinda matters. I'm not even saying they -should- trade him though.

MikeIsGood · Post #247 » by **MikeIsGood** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:43 pm

machu46 wrote:
tski1972 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Hell yeah, let's get weird

Seriously, we are shoving like 4 months of NBA craziness into a week. This **** is amazing, but it's also about enough to give you whiplash.

Pachinko_ · Post #248 » by **Pachinko_** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:01 am

WRau1 wrote:I'm surprised ORL hasn't offered up something for Westbrook yet.

Owners told Hammy to be reasonable, it's ok to be average.
Rumour has it Hammy climaxed really hard under his desk.

Chuck Diesel · Post #249 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:06 am

machu46 wrote:Kevin O'Connor saying Chicago has reached out to Boston about Kemba Walker.

Think this was more in an effort to get the picks that would’ve facilitated a trade for Jrue. Not sure it’s still on the table.

drone3 · Post #250 » by **drone3** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:16 am

MikeIsGood wrote:
machu46 wrote:
tski1972 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Hell yeah, let's get weird

Seriously, we are shoving like 4 months of NBA craziness into a week. This **** is amazing, but it's also about enough to give you whiplash.

That is probz the craziest rumour yet.

RRyder823 · Post #251 » by **RRyder823** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:18 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:
machu46 wrote:Kevin O'Connor saying Chicago has reached out to Boston about Kemba Walker.

Think this was more in an effort to get the picks that would’ve facilitated a trade for Jrue. Not sure it’s still on the table.

Apparently Boston is trying to move Hayward or Kemba for young assets to ship to Houston

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Chuck Diesel · Post #252 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:19 am

Interesting. Same strategy they had for Jrue.

giannis and 1 · Post #253 » by **giannis and 1** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:25 am

Levert+Dinwiddie+Prince+Allen+3 firsts, 2 first swaps, and 2 2nds. If it's something like that, I don't see how that is terrible considering Harden wants a trade, is 2 years away from free agency, and is 31 years old.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #254 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:25 am

I'm going to laugh when boston ends up having to make 3 meh picks in a meh draft.

Middling draft picks are fun assets until you actually have to use them.

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giannis and 1 · Post #255 » by **giannis and 1** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:26 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I'm going to laugh when boston ends up having to make 3 meh picks in a meh draft.

Middling draft picks are fun assets until you actually have to use them.

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Outside of picking in the top 10, Boston isn't really that good at drafting.

drone3 · Post #256 » by **drone3** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:30 am

giannis and 1 wrote:Levert+Dinwiddie+Prince+Allen+3 firsts, 2 first swaps, and 2 2nds. If it's something like that, I don't see how that is terrible considering Harden wants a trade, is 2 years away from free agency, and is 31 years old.

Honestly for Harden that is terrible. They need a rebuilding young star like Mitchell or Murray.

buckboy · Post #257 » by **buckboy** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:31 am

blazza18 wrote:
Bucksfan28 wrote:Yea something like LeVert/Dinwiddie/Prince/Allen/several picks for Harden/McLemore would be good for Houston imo. Would have to hear what else is out there.

Would you think that would be a good offer for Giannis?

That's a dog **** offer for either Harden or Giannis, but I'm guessing you already know that.

Edit: And after reading further, you do indeed know that.

giannis and 1 · Post #258 » by **giannis and 1** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:34 am

drone3 wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:Levert+Dinwiddie+Prince+Allen+3 firsts, 2 first swaps, and 2 2nds. If it's something like that, I don't see how that is terrible considering Harden wants a trade, is 2 years away from free agency, and is 31 years old.
Honestly for Harden that is terrible. They need a rebuilding young star like Mitchell or Murray.

They could trade those guys later on for more picks. Rockets are a good drafting team.

buckboy · Post #259 » by **buckboy** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:35 am

giannis and 1 wrote:Levert+Dinwiddie+Prince+Allen+3 firsts, 2 first swaps, and 2 2nds. If it's something like that, I don't see how that is terrible considering Harden wants a trade, is 2 years away from free agency, and is 31 years old.

There's very likely not a top 50 player in that package.

That is a horrible deal for a top 5 player under contract for 2 years.

tedbrogen · Post #260 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:38 am

Coach Carter wrote:Harden in Boston would be kyrie 2.0. Boston got their harmony back and Stevens has the keys to the team again. A very good team that is. Not sure why you would mess with this.

Because their current roster is not a true contender unless Tatum or Brown take another massive leap. I know that's possible because Tatum is only nine years old, but that is their only current path without moving pieces and they are still dealing with too many cooks in the kitchen as far as Tatum, Kemba, and Hayward all insisting on being ball dominant and getting theirs.

But not sure why they would take the risk on blowing everything up for Harden because if it fails, he bails. I guess they are envisioning a lineup of Smart, Brown, Tatum, Harden, Williams? But moving Kemba and Hayward this off-season is going to cost them all their other assets and then I don't know what they have left to get Harden?