Trade Ideas (Part III)

[Stillwater]

well after being traded to the Hawks one of my fav defensive specialists is out there after the Hawks waived him.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/11/hawks-to-waive-khyri-thomas.html
def somebody the Cavs should pick up to help next to DG defensively in the back court he was severely misused in DET and is capable of running the 2nd unit at the 1 or playing off sexton or garland.

[jbk1234]

well after being traded to the Hawks one of my fav defensive specialists is out there after the Hawks waived him.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/11/hawks-to-waive-khyri-thomas.html
def somebody the Cavs should pick up to help next to DG defensively in the back court he was severely misused in DET and is capable of running the 2nd unit at the 1 or playing off sexton or garland.

I'm not all that anxious to bring in another guard who is under 6'4".

[Stillwater]

well after being traded to the Hawks one of my fav defensive specialists is out there after the Hawks waived him.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/11/hawks-to-waive-khyri-thomas.html
def somebody the Cavs should pick up to help next to DG defensively in the back court he was severely misused in DET and is capable of running the 2nd unit at the 1 or playing off sexton or garland.

I'm not all that anxious to bring in another guard who is under 6'4".

2 time DPOY in college and he has a 6'11" wingspan as well as being a decent athlete that can shoot the 3 hes more than capable to improve the back court rotation defensively from day 1 regardless of head height

[old school 34]

Wolves fan here...per some reports we had some conversations about trading for LNJ. I'd have to imagine he's a pretty popular piece for Cavs fans...is their a realistic trade that both teams can win here with him? I'd guess, it's him for younger defensive minded wings?

Thoughts?

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[Revenged25]

Wolves fan here...per some reports we had some conversations about trading for LNJ. I'd have to imagine he's a pretty popular piece for Cavs fans...is their a realistic trade that both teams can win here with him? I'd guess, it's him for younger defensive minded wings?

Thoughts?

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There probably isn't a trade that the Wolves would be willing to make that the Cavs would accept for LNJ. Although not a starter due to Love and Drummond, he's easily the 3rd best big on the team and some of our best line-ups last season were those that involved LNJ.

[jbk1234]

Wolves fan here...per some reports we had some conversations about trading for LNJ. I'd have to imagine he's a pretty popular piece for Cavs fans...is their a realistic trade that both teams can win here with him? I'd guess, it's him for younger defensive minded wings?

Thoughts?

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There may have been before the draft if it netted us Wiseman. There is not now. The rumor is not that the had some conversations, it's that the Wolves tried to acquire him right before the draft. That sounds to me like the Wolves put No. 17 on the table and the Cavs passed.

[jbk1234]

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[Stillwater]

thankfully we dont have to hear about anymore stupid westbrook ideas

[jbk1234]

thankfully we dont have to hear about anymore stupid westbrook ideas

Yeah, without picks to add on the Rockets part, that was just a non-starter. Even if the wheels come off, all our young guys suck, and you have to rethink the current rebuild, Wiggins, Wiseman, and draft capital looks like the better option.

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[cgf]

Just stopping by to say that if you ever wanna sell Garland for those Mavs picks we have, this Knicks fan is down

But seriously, I really liked what I saw from him against us...though I did miss most of the first half. Even if his shot wasn't dialed in like it should be in his prime & it was against us, he seemed like a smart kid that has a good sense for using his shooting-gravity & penetration to create...even if he still needs to figure out how to best utilize his skills to do so at this level.

[jbk1234]

Just stopping by to say that if you ever wanna sell Garland for those Mavs picks we have, this Knicks fan is down

But seriously, I really liked what I saw from him against us...though I did miss most of the first half. Even if his shot wasn't dialed in like it should be in his prime & it was against us, he seemed like a smart kid that has a good sense for using his shooting-gravity & penetration to create...even if he still needs to figure out how to best utilize his skills to do so at this level.

It's too soon.

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[cgf]

Just stopping by to say that if you ever wanna sell Garland for those Mavs picks we have, this Knicks fan is down

But seriously, I really liked what I saw from him against us...though I did miss most of the first half. Even if his shot wasn't dialed in like it should be in his prime & it was against us, he seemed like a smart kid that has a good sense for using his shooting-gravity & penetration to create...even if he still needs to figure out how to best utilize his skills to do so at this level.

It's too soon.

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Oh I know...if I'm being serious it's too soon from our end as well; since we should just take our lumps for another season & see if the lotto gods gift us a primary ballhandler, before making any moves.

I just wanted to talk about Garland and figured I'd have better luck here since we're all still too busy busting our collective nut over Quickley looking like a competent guard ...plus y'all have seen more of Garland at the NBA level than I have; so I was curious how you were feeling about him heading into year 2.

[jbk1234]

Just stopping by to say that if you ever wanna sell Garland for those Mavs picks we have, this Knicks fan is down

But seriously, I really liked what I saw from him against us...though I did miss most of the first half. Even if his shot wasn't dialed in like it should be in his prime & it was against us, he seemed like a smart kid that has a good sense for using his shooting-gravity & penetration to create...even if he still needs to figure out how to best utilize his skills to do so at this level.

It's too soon.

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Oh I know...if I'm being serious it's too soon from our end as well; since we should just take our lumps for another season & see if the lotto gods gift us a primary ballhandler, before making any moves.

I just wanted to talk about Garland and figured I'd have better luck here since we're all still too busy busting our collective nut over Quickley looking like a competent guard ...plus y'all have seen more of Garland at the NBA level than I have; so I was curious how you were feeling about him heading into year 2.

I reviewed the post game thread. I lol'd. I hope he works out for you all. Thibs doesn't like rookies but I can't imagine he liked what he saw from the starters.

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[cgf]

It's too soon.

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Oh I know...if I'm being serious it's too soon from our end as well; since we should just take our lumps for another season & see if the lotto gods gift us a primary ballhandler, before making any moves.

I just wanted to talk about Garland and figured I'd have better luck here since we're all still too busy busting our collective nut over Quickley looking like a competent guard ...plus y'all have seen more of Garland at the NBA level than I have; so I was curious how you were feeling about him heading into year 2.

I reviewed the post game thread. I lol'd. I hope he works out for you all. Thibs doesn't like rookies but I can't imagine he liked what he saw from the starters.

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Yeah, it's been a fun 24hrs

Luckily Barrett, Tobbin, Ntilikina & Quickley are the kind of high-IQ/high-effort kids that Thibs usually likes, rather than the goofball types (like KAT & Wiggins) that he has had issues with. So I'm optimistic that they'll get consistent minutes together off of the bench if they continue looking coherent in the regular season.

I am a lot more worried about how Thibs will click with Mitch & Knox since they are a lot more immature and impressionable...though Thibs does sound like he loves Robinson's defensive potential; which makes me hopeful that he can become our Noah even if he refuses to ever grow up.

[Stillwater]

Oh I know...if I'm being serious it's too soon from our end as well; since we should just take our lumps for another season & see if the lotto gods gift us a primary ballhandler, before making any moves.

I just wanted to talk about Garland and figured I'd have better luck here since we're all still too busy busting our collective nut over Quickley looking like a competent guard ...plus y'all have seen more of Garland at the NBA level than I have; so I was curious how you were feeling about him heading into year 2.

I reviewed the post game thread. I lol'd. I hope he works out for you all. Thibs doesn't like rookies but I can't imagine he liked what he saw from the starters.

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Yeah, it's been a fun 24hrs

Luckily Barrett, Tobbin, Ntilikina & Quickley are the kind of high-IQ/high-effort kids that Thibs usually likes, rather than the goofball types (like KAT & Wiggins) that he has had issues with. So I'm optimistic that they'll get consistent minutes together off of the bench if they continue looking coherent in the regular season.

I am a lot more worried about how Thibs will click with Mitch & Knox since they are a lot more immature and impressionable...though Thibs does sound like he loves Robinson's defensive potential; which makes me hopeful that he can become our Noah even if he refuses to ever grow up.

What was oft missed about Quickley in most scouting reports imo is just how good of a playmaker he is and you can see that a little bit already in the preseason despite never ever being tasked with that last season for Cal. the funny thing is as solid of a 3 point shooter he was esp in catch and shoot situations its not his greatest strength and the reason he was used as a score first guard was because Maxey and others in the line up could not shoot well enough to justify using Quickley in the creator role.
Garland is a long term project at this point so unless the Cavs front office wants to sell low for a mid 1st

[jbk1234]

With Gobert signing a Supermax deal, I think K. Love is going to have a real trade market next summer with only two years left on his deal. Leonard and Dipo, who I'm not even sure is a max player, are all that's left.

The downside is that Drummond's trade value took a pretty big hit as an expiring contract.

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[jbk1234]

If the Cavs are going to stick with Sexton, then they should probably explore a trade around Ball for Garland later in the season.

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[Revenged25]

If the Cavs are going to stick with Sexton, then they should probably explore a trade around Ball for Garland later in the season.

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If they worked out a reasonable extension for him before making the trade, then it would be a great fit for the team whether they decide to stick with Garland or Sexton. Both would be able to guard the opposing PG on defense while Ball takes the SG and since neither are great at creating for others Ball can handle that as well.

[jbk1234]

If the Cavs are going to stick with Sexton, then they should probably explore a trade around Ball for Garland later in the season.

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If they worked out a reasonable extension for him before making the trade, then it would be a great fit for the team whether they decide to stick with Garland or Sexton. Both would be able to guard the opposing PG on defense while Ball takes the SG and since neither are great at creating for others Ball can handle that as well.

He's a RFA so I wouldn't even care if he was extended. I don't see some team coming in and presenting Lonzo Ball with a max offer sheet at this point. I'd want to see more from Garland though.

[Revenged25]

If the Cavs are going to stick with Sexton, then they should probably explore a trade around Ball for Garland later in the season.

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If they worked out a reasonable extension for him before making the trade, then it would be a great fit for the team whether they decide to stick with Garland or Sexton. Both would be able to guard the opposing PG on defense while Ball takes the SG and since neither are great at creating for others Ball can handle that as well.

He's a RFA so I wouldn't even care if he was extended. I don't see some team coming in and presenting Lonzo Ball with a max offer sheet at this point. I'd want to see more from Garland though.

Oh I completely understand wanting to give Garland a little more time, but I think Ball would be a great fit with the other potential pieces on the team not even taking Garland/Sexton into account. Though part of why I would want him to agree to an extension before coming here is that it would mean he's less likely to be a distraction from the start with whether he's going to stick around long term etc.