Trade Thread #6: I Wood Walk 500 Myles

ConstableGeneva · Post #1481 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:25 am

Sleep is for wimps.

Jammer · Post #1482 » by **Jammer** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:25 am

MagicBagley18 wrote:If we get turner and dougie buckets who else can we target to fill out the bench

Too much salary coming back. If they sign anyone else they are in the lux tax. Really don't think that the Celtics want to take back 25,333,000 even if they indlude Carson Edwards with Hayward because the Celtics would be at 131,730,895 for 13 players without including Green, Ojeleye, Waters or Tacko (if they didn't keep them as 2 ways). So, it's too much money. The luxe tax starts at 132,627,000 so might as well stay under that.

Turner's 18 Mil salary is not good value in this market. Needs at least one 1rst Round Pick to offset Hayward's higher production, despite his injury history. But I am not crazy about that. Would probably want a second round pick as well. But if they take Edwards they can keep the 2nd round pick.

Dougie Buckets is a great shooter, but really a PF on defense. So you are choosing between him and Grant Williams.

The value pieces that could come back from Indiana are:

T. J. Warren 11.75 M in 2021 plus signed for one more season. Indiana does not want to lose him.
Turner if accompanied by at least one 1rst Round pick, if they take Edwards with Hayward
McDermott by himself with a 1rst Round pick

That's the real problem. Indiana doesn't have much to give back to start with, and as a small market team, they are hesistant to include their draft picks, but that's really what's necessary due to the salaries of the guys they'd be willing to let go.

ConstableGeneva · Post #1483 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:26 am

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LOL Bucks just gave away 3 1sts and 2 swaps. Possibly for nothing??

ConstableGeneva · Post #1484 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:27 am

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The Corey's · Post #1485 » by **The Corey's** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:27 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
sportfan6197 wrote:I get being bored but this wasnt funny the first time

That's cool. My bad.

Who are you, again?

Watch on YouTube

Celts17Pride · Post #1486 » by **Celts17Pride** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:27 am

Someone said it but I bet the Celtics end up with Myles Turner and George Hill

Post #1487 » by **Shak_Celts** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:28 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:
jumblin wrote:The league is full of guys will immense talent who never win. Harden and Westbrook come to mind. Not really a knock on a guy, its extremely rare to find a truly exceptional winner. Im simply saying Tatum is much more akin to Harden than a true winner like a LeBron or Kobe. He's gonna put up great numbers and be in MVP talks every year...and he's gonna be going home early every year too.

I think if anything he lacks the talent. At least hasn't harnessed his skills to the same level as any of Lebron, Harden, or Kobe. And may never will. The kid seems really grounded, coachable, and level-headed. I'm not sure why you think he's all about chasing numbers/stats. All these superstars have ginormous egos btw, including/especially the "winners" you mentioned. If he never wins anything, it's not because of lack of right character and mindset imo.

I have told y'all in the past that the world frowns upon big egos (publicly), but sports wouldn't be ish without the biggest ones! I want the guys with the biggest egos but with talent and who can work well enough with others (even if inside they think they are their minions)! Go down the list of the greatest in any sport and tell me they aren't top level egotist! Jordan, Kobe, LBJ, Shaq, Bird, Tiger Woods, Tom Brady (700yo new team), Drew Brees, Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds (shh lol), and hockey players I don't know about but assume them too/Gretzky is all I know, etc!! I could go on forever!!

Lunacat1 · Post #1488 » by **Lunacat1** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:29 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
floyd wrote:I love when insane people derail the **** out of a thread. Carry on ...

Apologies for distracting from the big Marcus Morris signing lol.

I think I was being the one referenced. But seriously, "Education Reform" on the back of Hayward's jersey said it all. He and Robyn are the one's that need to be educated. I feel bad for them, honestly.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1489 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:30 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:

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LOL Bucks just gave away 3 1sts and 2 swaps. Possibly for nothing??

Giannis has until like December.

And another window next offseason.

Floody100 · Post #1490 » by **Floody100** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:30 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:

Man, don't these guys have work to do? Super unprofessional.

**** that’s good :lol:

hugepatsfan · Post #1491 » by **hugepatsfan** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:31 am

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floyd · Post #1492 » by **floyd** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:31 am

Lunacat1 wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
floyd wrote:I love when insane people derail the **** out of a thread. Carry on ...

Apologies for distracting from the big Marcus Morris signing lol.

I think I was being the one referenced. But seriously, "Education Reform" on the back of Hayward's jersey said it all. He and Robyn are the one's that need to be educated. I feel bad for them, honestly.

Jesus guys - no the guy who thinks Tatum sucks.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1493 » by **GoCeltics123** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:32 am

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BIG SIGH

Captain_Caveman · Post #1494 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:32 am

The Corey's wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
sportfan6197 wrote:I get being bored but this wasnt funny the first time

That's cool. My bad.

Who are you, again?

Watch on YouTube

I was gonna go with Conor McGregor to Jeremy Stephens, but I'll behave and go back in my hole now.

Happy refreshing, people. See you when there is actual news lol.

The Corey's · Post #1495 » by **The Corey's** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:33 am

hugepatsfan wrote:

Read on Twitter

This guy feeels like he has a direct line with the celtics.

Bed time.

Post #1496 » by **Parliament10** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:33 am

jumblin wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
jumblin wrote:The league is full of guys will immense talent who never win. Harden and Westbrook come to mind. Not really a knock on a guy, its extremely rare to find a truly exceptional winner. Im simply saying Tatum is much more akin to Harden than a true winner like a LeBron or Kobe. He's gonna put up great numbers and be in MVP talks every year...and he's gonna be going home early every year too.

I think if anything he lacks the talent. At least hasn't harnessed his skills to the same level as any of Lebron, Harden, or Kobe. And may never will. The kid seems really grounded, coachable, and level-headed. I'm not sure why you think he's all about chasing numbers/stats. All these superstars have ginormous egos btw, including/especially the "winners" you mentioned. If he never wins anything, it's not because of lack of right character and mindset imo.

Enormous egos yes. But also a insatiable desire to win and absolute hatred of losing. Tatum doesn't have that second part. Great player, just not the guy you build a *championship* team around. This is Boston, not Orlando.

What do you base that opinion upon?

And again, Even MJ didn't win until his 7th Season.
And MJ is better than all the players you mentioned.

hugepatsfan · Post #1497 » by **hugepatsfan** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:33 am

NO offered a top 5 pick for Turner last year. You could probably reroute Turner there for some bench players and some of the MIL pick haul.

KumaJG · Post #1498 » by **KumaJG** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:35 am

Wish Danny had some urgency to get something done. The free agent well is drying up.

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #1499 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:35 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sleep is for wimps.

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Floody100 · Post #1500 » by **Floody100** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:36 am

jumblin wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:I knew the name was familiar. Bro, did JT kick your dog or something?

Remember when John Wall and the Wizards were the hot team in the east? Tatum is gonna be the next John Wall. Since you seem to document all my posts, feel free to make note of this one too. Celtics will not win a title with him on the roster. He's about stats and image, not winning.

I suggest you look at our numbers when Tatum is on & off the court for us.

Will SmartWentCrazy come up with a worthy clap back at Cave?