Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go

Bohemian · Post #1921 » by **Bohemian** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:23 pm

Losing Hayward and keeping Ojeleye... That tells you everything

Afam · Post #1922 » by **Afam** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:23 pm

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Post #1923 » by **darrendaye** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:23 pm

lon3lytoaster wrote:Is Giles still available?

Post #1924 » by **Parliament10** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:23 pm

Just got home.

Hayward left to Charlotte, for free???
Danny messed this one up.

I knew that the Pacers thing was taking too long.
Should have taken Turner and McDermott.

Post #1925 » by **Darth Celtic** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:23 pm

reload141 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:I dont know of anyones said it, but hindsight being 20-20, we shouldnt have punted Kanter and Poirier so soon. Woulda been nice to have 7.7M in tradeable salary right now.

To have the full MLE and BAE do we have renounce the Kanter TPE of $5mil? or can we use that along with the MLE and BAE?

if we use full MLE it hard caps us this year. So if the TPE puts us over the tax, we can't use it.

Post #1926 » by **Froob** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:24 pm

Can the Lakers afford TT since they signed Harrell? We need to be all in on him. He’s a great fit and can apparently shoot 3s now.

BigTrade92 · Post #1927 » by **BigTrade92** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:24 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:Ainge said this season we'd be a tax team. That we'd get veterans.

LOL

Oh and we kept Semi too looks like. 2020 is the worst and I'm just crushed

I think at this point I’m more disgusted I have to watch Semi Ojeleye play professional basketball for this team than I am losing Hayward for nothing...

SMTBSI · Post #1928 » by **SMTBSI** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:24 pm

reload141 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:I dont know of anyones said it, but hindsight being 20-20, we shouldnt have punted Kanter and Poirier so soon. Woulda been nice to have 7.7M in tradeable salary right now.

To have the full MLE and BAE do we have renounce the Kanter TPE of $5mil? or can we use that along with the MLE and BAE?

No need to renounce the Kanter TPE. Got all three to use as we please.

reload141 · Post #1929 » by **reload141** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:24 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
reload141 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:I dont know of anyones said it, but hindsight being 20-20, we shouldnt have punted Kanter and Poirier so soon. Woulda been nice to have 7.7M in tradeable salary right now.

To have the full MLE and BAE do we have renounce the Kanter TPE of $5mil? or can we use that along with the MLE and BAE?

Nope, we still have it but cant stack TPEs like you can salary.

Oh I meant more, we can use the full MLE on a player, full BAE on a player and trade for a player under $5mil into the TPE, is that doable?

Post #1930 » by **Darth Celtic** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:24 pm

Parliament10 wrote:Just got home.

Hayward left to Charlotte, for free???
Danny messed this one up.

I knew that the Pacers thing was taking too long.
Should have taken Turner and McDermott.

again, how can you take something that wasn't there, the choice was on Hayward, not us.

The Corey's · Post #1931 » by **The Corey's** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:24 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
themoneyteam2 wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:
I miss last year when the Celtics beat the Heat easily to make the finals....

Oh wait

So because the Heat beat the Celtics last year that means they are "demonstrably better"?

I'm not sure what your argument is lol.

They beat Boston in the playoffs and their roster is better top to bottom. The Heat have a better coach...

Not sure how you can make an argument that the Celtics are even on the same level as the Heat right now. Please take off the green glasses.

They had their way with the celtics. That series wasn't even close.

And the one thing that made that possible was our lack of centers which we haven't even addressed.

But hey, brown and tatum withh make such a gigantic leap that having a center will only slow them down.

Celts17Pride · Post #1932 » by **Celts17Pride** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:25 pm

Now I’m fine with Giles, Harrison and Baynes

Make it happen Danny!

chrisab123 · Post #1933 » by **chrisab123** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:25 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:
themoneyteam2 wrote:
So because the Heat beat the Celtics last year that means they are "demonstrably better"?

I'm not sure what your argument is lol.

They beat Boston in the playoffs and their roster is better top to bottom. The Heat have a better coach...

Not sure how you can make an argument that the Celtics are even on the same level as the Heat right now.

Their roster is definitely not better from top to bottom lol.

Sure is. If you take off the green glasses for a second you'll see that the Heat have much better depth and their two stars are pretty much equal to your two stars.

Post #1934 » by **Darth Celtic** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:25 pm

reload141 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
reload141 wrote:
To have the full MLE and BAE do we have renounce the Kanter TPE of $5mil? or can we use that along with the MLE and BAE?

Nope, we still have it but cant stack TPEs like you can salary.

Oh I meant more, we can use the full MLE on a player, full BAE on a player and trade for a player under $5mil into the TPE, is that doable?

need a cap expert for that. I could do some math I guess too

Post #1935 » by **bisme37** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:25 pm

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FlatearthZorro · Post #1936 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:26 pm

Froob wrote:Can the Lakers afford TT since they signed Harrell? We need to be all in on him. He’s a great fit and can apparently shoot 3s now.

Another Rich Paul client. We'll have a tough time signing him.

chrisab123 · Post #1937 » by **chrisab123** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:26 pm

Bohemian wrote:Losing Hayward and keeping Ojeleye... That tells you everything

How did Brad handle his roster when Hayward left Butler? That will possibly give us a clue going forward.

Celts17Pride · Post #1938 » by **Celts17Pride** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:27 pm

Somewhere Jae Crowder is laughing his ass off.

themoneyteam2 · Post #1939 » by **themoneyteam2** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:27 pm

The Corey's wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:
themoneyteam2 wrote:
So because the Heat beat the Celtics last year that means they are "demonstrably better"?

I'm not sure what your argument is lol.

They beat Boston in the playoffs and their roster is better top to bottom. The Heat have a better coach...

Not sure how you can make an argument that the Celtics are even on the same level as the Heat right now. Please take off the green glasses.

They had their way with the celtics. That series wasn't even close.

And the one thing that made that possible was our lack of centers which we haven't even addressed.

But hey, brown and tatum withh make such a gigantic leap that having a center will only slow them down.

I thInk it was more blowing big leads which was the story. IIRC, Celtics and Heat scored same amount of points that series. No doubt lack of center hurt them but I don't see how the Heat are "demonstrably better" than the Celtics after losing Hayward (a series which he was a non-factor in)?

SMTBSI · Post #1940 » by **SMTBSI** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:27 pm

Darth Celtic wrote:
reload141 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:I dont know of anyones said it, but hindsight being 20-20, we shouldnt have punted Kanter and Poirier so soon. Woulda been nice to have 7.7M in tradeable salary right now.

To have the full MLE and BAE do we have renounce the Kanter TPE of $5mil? or can we use that along with the MLE and BAE?

if we use full MLE it hard caps us this year. So if the TPE puts us over the tax, we can't use it.

There's basically no way to reach the apron now though. We've got 25 mil in tax space, and a few more from there to the apron. We could use every penny of the MLE, BAE, and Kanter TPE and still be well clear.

Hard to see how hard capping ourselves would wind up being a factor at all this season.