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Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End

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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1641 » by Celts17Pride » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:20 pm

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ConstableGeneva wrote:Welp. Player option in his 5th year. We have the next 4 years to make the Finals at least.

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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1642 » by darrendaye » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:20 pm

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darrendaye wrote:FYI, why so long to find out the terms of TT deal? Let's not get Javele McGee'd again. :)

What details u want? 2 years MLE. Do u want to know if second year an option?


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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1643 » by jonige94 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:20 pm

Did Mitchell and Fox get a player option as well?
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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1644 » by Bohemian » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:21 pm

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ConstableGeneva wrote:Welp. Player option in his 5th year. We have the next 4 years to make the Finals at least.


Gulp.



haha it´s 5, cause he still has 1 year under his rookie contract :wink:
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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1645 » by darrendaye » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:21 pm

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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1646 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:23 pm

Donovan Mitchell also has a player option after the 4th year. See you in Boston in 2025, Mr. Mitchell!
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Post#1647 » by 31to6 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:23 pm

Wow Tatum got HAYWARD money:)
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Post#1648 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:24 pm

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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1649 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:25 pm

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ConstableGeneva wrote:Welp. Player option in his 5th year. We have the next 4 years to make the Finals at least.


Gulp.



haha it´s 5, cause he still has 1 year under his rookie contract :wink:

Players have been asking out with 2 years left on their contract. :(
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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1650 » by Feed Your Head » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:26 pm

Mitchell will sign here in 2025.
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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1651 » by MagicBagley18 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:26 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Bohemian wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Gulp.



haha it´s 5, cause he still has 1 year under his rookie contract :wink:

Players have been asking out with 2 years left on their contract. :(


Exactly. We r on the clock. For all the talk ab alienating Tatum w certain players or situations - we also have to make sure we can actually do winning and pair him w elite talent.
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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1652 » by Floody100 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:26 pm

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The couchgm guy wants to move Brown from SG to SF because of Brown's playmaking and handle deficiences so I thought the implication was that the SG would thus have better playmaking ability and handle.


currently Jaylen is a stand in the corner and shoot wide open C & S threes and transition scorer only, dependent on others getting him the ball. That's literally what Nesmith and SGs like Redick, Klay, Green excel at too. Typically, the better SGs have that ability but also can initiate the offense and attack defenses off the dribble (Wade, Booker, Kobe, MJ, Beal, Mitchell) unlike Jaylen due to his poor handle. Wait, are homers actually tryin to claim Jaylen doesn't have an atrocious handle that prevents him from doing this? lmao. Is it some slight wanting Jaylen to move to the 3? What a touchy sensitive bunch his defenders are.

I'm not confident Nesmith can do all those extra things but I am confident he can do exactly what Jaylen does in our offense and has the physical profile and athleticism to approximate his defense. So, while my moronic haters like to make it out as if I've said something controversial, it's anything but. That said, I think Nesmith moves without the ball and is a better shooter than Jaylen so he'll be an upgrade in that respect. But I'm not sure he has Jaylen's post up game or transition game nor on the ball defense. But when you lose Hayward you have to plug in players where they can replace that production. I like Smart off the bench. I don't know why suggesting Nesmith, who is an excellent prospect, should start is rustling Jimmies


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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1653 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:28 pm

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ConstableGeneva wrote:Welp. Player option in his 5th year. We have the next 4 years to make the Finals at least.

The summer of 2024 will be a barrel of laughs on this forum.

We will have at least 3 more championships by then

Just basing on our new unis, it's gonna be a banner year!

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Post#1654 » by The Corey's » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:46 pm

So hayward can but hasn't signed as far as we know right?
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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1655 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:51 pm

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Bleeding Green wrote:The couchgm guy wants to move Brown from SG to SF because of Brown's playmaking and handle deficiences so I thought the implication was that the SG would thus have better playmaking ability and handle.


currently Jaylen is a stand in the corner and shoot wide open C & S threes and transition scorer only, dependent on others getting him the ball. That's literally what Nesmith and SGs like Redick, Klay, Green excel at too. Typically, the better SGs have that ability but also can initiate the offense and attack defenses off the dribble (Wade, Booker, Kobe, MJ, Beal, Mitchell) unlike Jaylen due to his poor handle. Wait, are homers actually tryin to claim Jaylen doesn't have an atrocious handle that prevents him from doing this? lmao. Is it some slight wanting Jaylen to move to the 3? What a touchy sensitive bunch his defenders are.

I'm not confident Nesmith can do all those extra things but I am confident he can do exactly what Jaylen does in our offense and has the physical profile and athleticism to approximate his defense. So, while my moronic haters like to make it out as if I've said something controversial, it's anything but. That said, I think Nesmith moves without the ball and is a better shooter than Jaylen so he'll be an upgrade in that respect. But I'm not sure he has Jaylen's post up game or transition game nor on the ball defense. But when you lose Hayward you have to plug in players where they can replace that production. I like Smart off the bench. I don't know why suggesting Nesmith, who is an excellent prospect, should start is rustling Jimmies


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No matter how many times BCGM says this, it remains quite distant from reality. Jaylen's stop-and-multi-fake midrange drives matter. They aren't elite drives to the rim; they aren't teardrops/floaters; they aren't Kembaesque stepback stop-and-pops. But they are similarly effective in a diffferent way.

Jaylen's switchability on defense matters too. He can guard three positions solidly and credibly fake guarding the other two.

I actually agree that he's a natural SF, just like Jaylen and Gordon are. I think Marcus and Kemba should both start, at least against most opponents. But this Jaylen bashing continues to be way overwrought.
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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1656 » by Shak_Celts » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:52 pm

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Bleeding Green wrote:The couchgm guy wants to move Brown from SG to SF because of Brown's playmaking and handle deficiences so I thought the implication was that the SG would thus have better playmaking ability and handle.


currently Jaylen is a stand in the corner and shoot wide open C & S threes and transition scorer only, dependent on others getting him the ball. That's literally what Nesmith and SGs like Redick, Klay, Green excel at too. Typically, the better SGs have that ability but also can initiate the offense and attack defenses off the dribble (Wade, Booker, Kobe, MJ, Beal, Mitchell) unlike Jaylen due to his poor handle. Wait, are homers actually tryin to claim Jaylen doesn't have an atrocious handle that prevents him from doing this? lmao. Is it some slight wanting Jaylen to move to the 3? What a touchy sensitive bunch his defenders are.

I'm not confident Nesmith can do all those extra things but I am confident he can do exactly what Jaylen does in our offense and has the physical profile and athleticism to approximate his defense. So, while my moronic haters like to make it out as if I've said something controversial, it's anything but. That said, I think Nesmith moves without the ball and is a better shooter than Jaylen so he'll be an upgrade in that respect. But I'm not sure he has Jaylen's post up game or transition game nor on the ball defense. But when you lose Hayward you have to plug in players where they can replace that production. I like Smart off the bench. I don't know why suggesting Nesmith, who is an excellent prospect, should start is rustling Jimmies


Just stop, none of this is true. 26% of his threes last year were from the corner, and 24% of his shots were midrange. I don’t even know why I’m responding buy Jaylen has shown he can create for himself, especially from midrange. His handle has gotten much better also and his assist % has gone up. Try using some factual evidence in these poor takes.


Let's just say that all Jaylen Brown does is stand in a corner and shoot wide open 3 and defends, how is that a bad thing? That's all Ray Allen did but I don't hear anyone knocking him for it! Yes, Ray was better at it, his career is 40% and he also had a few low to mid 40 seasons too. If all Brown did was be a lesser version of a hall of famer, how is that a bad thing?

If Tatum wasn't on this team there is no way JB wouldn't get more respect as a player. It's sad really but it is what it is I guess.
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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1657 » by BostonCouchGM » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:55 pm

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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1658 » by BostonCouchGM » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:01 pm

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currently Jaylen is a stand in the corner and shoot wide open C & S threes and transition scorer only, dependent on others getting him the ball. That's literally what Nesmith and SGs like Redick, Klay, Green excel at too. Typically, the better SGs have that ability but also can initiate the offense and attack defenses off the dribble (Wade, Booker, Kobe, MJ, Beal, Mitchell) unlike Jaylen due to his poor handle. Wait, are homers actually tryin to claim Jaylen doesn't have an atrocious handle that prevents him from doing this? lmao. Is it some slight wanting Jaylen to move to the 3? What a touchy sensitive bunch his defenders are.

I'm not confident Nesmith can do all those extra things but I am confident he can do exactly what Jaylen does in our offense and has the physical profile and athleticism to approximate his defense. So, while my moronic haters like to make it out as if I've said something controversial, it's anything but. That said, I think Nesmith moves without the ball and is a better shooter than Jaylen so he'll be an upgrade in that respect. But I'm not sure he has Jaylen's post up game or transition game nor on the ball defense. But when you lose Hayward you have to plug in players where they can replace that production. I like Smart off the bench. I don't know why suggesting Nesmith, who is an excellent prospect, should start is rustling Jimmies


Just stop, none of this is true. 26% of his threes last year were from the corner, and 24% of his shots were midrange. I don’t even know why I’m responding buy Jaylen has shown he can create for himself, especially from midrange. His handle has gotten much better also and his assist % has gone up. Try using some factual evidence in these poor takes.


Let's just say that all Jaylen Brown does is stand in a corner and shoot wide open 3 and defends, how is that a bad thing? That's all Ray Allen did but I don't hear anyone knocking him for it! Yes, Ray was better at it, his career is 40% and he also had a few low to mid 40 seasons too. If all Brown did was be a lesser version of a hall of famer, how is that a bad thing?

If Tatum wasn't on this team there is no way JB wouldn't get more respect as a player. It's sad really but it is what it is I guess.


who is saying it's a bad thing? He's paid well to do so and is one of the best guys in the NBA to do it. Considering the money being thrown around his $25 million contract is a bargain. All I ever said was I feel like Nesmith can also do that, allowing Jaylen to replace the loss of Hayward. I seriously don't get what is so controversial about this. We lost Hayward. It created a hole in our lineup. I think we fill that hole with Jaylen and Nesmith replaces Jaylen at the 2. Really read these responses and ask yourself why people are so triggered. lol maybe I just have that affect on people I guess.
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Re: Trade Thread #8: All Gordon things come to an End 

Post#1659 » by batabatuta » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:06 pm

I think the roster is set plus whatever happens in the Charlotte S&T. Maybe we will end up with a pick and TPE not sure. Maybe we Baynes is on the waiting list or maybe we are looking for another wing or PF. That's the last piece for this season's roster.
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