The Josh "Nonstop" Okogie Thread: Obi-Wan Okogie Awakens

[Klomp]

If we are gonna factor in Okogie's wingspan to an adjusted height, we might as well add in when he is standing on a stool ... then we got a defensive center too. Looks to me Ryans comment was taken out iof context.

What that comment is saying is that wingspan is just as important - if not more than - as height. You don't block shots with the top of your head, do you?

[KGdaBom]

So you're saying that size doesn't necessarily affect how a player does on the glass?

There are always exceptions, but in general I want traditionally full sized or larger than full sized players at every position. I'm a proponent of tall and big ball.

If we are gonna factor in Okogie's wingspan to an adjusted height, we might as well add in when he is standing on a stool ... then we got a defensive center too. Looks to me Ryans comment was taken out iof context.

[Dewey]

If we are gonna factor in Okogie's wingspan to an adjusted height, we might as well add in when he is standing on a stool ... then we got a defensive center too. Looks to me Ryans comment was taken out iof context.

What that comment is saying is that wingspan is just as important - if not more than - as height. You don't block shots with the top of your head, do you?

it's only stated as "a factor" ... YOU conveniently state your own translation, "that wingspan is just as important - if not more then - as height." You gonna have a bunch of short monkeys with long arms running around blocking shots? wow

[KGdaBom]

If we are gonna factor in Okogie's wingspan to an adjusted height, we might as well add in when he is standing on a stool ... then we got a defensive center too. Looks to me Ryans comment was taken out iof context.

What that comment is saying is that wingspan is just as important - if not more than - as height. You don't block shots with the top of your head, do you?

Two most important aspects of height for an NBA player IMO. First Eye level. This is where you get your vision for everything including shooting passing etc. Randy Breur former 10 foot tall player for the Wolves and other teams should have about 4 feet removed from his effective basketball height because the last 4 feet was all forehead. I also do believe he has blocked shots with his cranium.

2nd reach. You don't block shots with the top of your head. That measurement is irrelevant. That said I don't want Okogie playing the PF or 4, but I don't have to worry about that because we don't use either of those.

[TheZachAttack]

If we are gonna factor in Okogie's wingspan to an adjusted height, we might as well add in when he is standing on a stool ... then we got a defensive center too. Looks to me Ryans comment was taken out iof context.

What that comment is saying is that wingspan is just as important - if not more than - as height. You don't block shots with the top of your head, do you?

it's only stated as "a factor" ... YOU conveniently state your own translation, "that wingspan is just as important - if not more then - as height." You gonna have a bunch of short monkeys with long arms running around blocking shots? wow

I think a monkey with 10 foot arms would be a pretty disruptive defensive force—would totally add that player to my rotation.

You’re being obtuse for no reason. It’s pretty clear that the organization puts an emphasis on length and speed over height. Mass matters too, but Layman or Covington aren’t exactly heavy players either for example. I think it’s clear the Wolves, provided there is enough length, prioritize length/speed/athleticism/shooting ability in some combo over height/weight.

You may not agree, but if you’re tuned into what this management group is telling us... it’s clear that’s the way they think.

[urinesane]

If we are gonna factor in Okogie's wingspan to an adjusted height, we might as well add in when he is standing on a stool ... then we got a defensive center too. Looks to me Ryans comment was taken out iof context.

What that comment is saying is that wingspan is just as important - if not more than - as height. You don't block shots with the top of your head, do you?

I do, but it's a tough technique to teach.

[winforlose]

Hoopshype and more say that the Wolves will not extend QO to JO. In other words he will become an unrestricted free agent.

[Klomp]

Can people please learn to quote the source correctly. Hoopshype isn't reporting the news, Darren Wolfson is. Hoopshype aggregates, they rarely report.

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[Battletrigger]

Lol Klomp, just lol. Isn't Utah a better fit for you? You are acting like a douchebag lately.

[winforlose]

Can people please learn to quote the source correctly. Hoopshype isn't reporting the news, Darren Wolfson is. Hoopshype aggregates, they rarely report.

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I wasn’t claiming that Hoopshype was reporting it, I was telling people where to go to find it. The and more was simply my way of saying I found another source to verify it.

[Krapinsky]

Can people please learn to quote the source correctly. Hoopshype isn't reporting the news, Darren Wolfson is. Hoopshype aggregates, they rarely report.

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But then aren't you just doing the same thing Hoopshype does i.e. aggregating?

[shrink]

This isn’t unexpected news. The team likes Okogie, but they simply couldn’t keep him in the rotation, especially with minutes going to the longer Vando and a slow shooting start for McDaniels. When we add a couple 1st rounders and probably someone in free agency, there just isn’t a spot for Okogie.

This is a minor loss, too. I expected he would get traded at the last deadline, if just for a future 2nd, and we could have sent Josh to a place with minutes to further his career.

[winforlose]

This isn’t unexpected news. The team likes Okogie, but they simply couldn’t keep him in the rotation, especially with minutes going to the longer Vando and a slow shooting start for McDaniels. When we add a couple 1st rounders and probably someone in free agency, there just isn’t a spot for Okogie.

This is a minor loss, too. I expected he would get traded at the last deadline, if just for a future 2nd, and we could have sent Josh to a place with minutes to further his career.

We still have the bird rights if a sign and trade is needed. I think it was about the QO being to high relative to his value. I think he likes it here and given a reasonable offer might stay. That said, this is a business and for more playing time and more money he will do what is best for him.

[SO_MONEY]

This isn’t unexpected news. The team likes Okogie, but they simply couldn’t keep him in the rotation, especially with minutes going to the longer Vando and a slow shooting start for McDaniels. When we add a couple 1st rounders and probably someone in free agency, there just isn’t a spot for Okogie.

This is a minor loss, too. I expected he would get traded at the last deadline, if just for a future 2nd, and we could have sent Josh to a place with minutes to further his career.

We still have the bird rights if a sign and trade is needed. I think it was about the QO being to high relative to his value. I think he likes it here and given a reasonable offer might stay. That said, this is a business and for more playing time and more money he will do what is best for him.

We don't want him, he isn't chasing more money he is hoping for a job.

[winforlose]

This isn’t unexpected news. The team likes Okogie, but they simply couldn’t keep him in the rotation, especially with minutes going to the longer Vando and a slow shooting start for McDaniels. When we add a couple 1st rounders and probably someone in free agency, there just isn’t a spot for Okogie.

This is a minor loss, too. I expected he would get traded at the last deadline, if just for a future 2nd, and we could have sent Josh to a place with minutes to further his career.

We still have the bird rights if a sign and trade is needed. I think it was about the QO being to high relative to his value. I think he likes it here and given a reasonable offer might stay. That said, this is a business and for more playing time and more money he will do what is best for him.

We don't want him, he isn't chasing more money he is hoping for a job.

We don’t want him at his QO price point. As a minimum he would be a nice defensive option/bench depth.

[SO_MONEY]

We still have the bird rights if a sign and trade is needed. I think it was about the QO being to high relative to his value. I think he likes it here and given a reasonable offer might stay. That said, this is a business and for more playing time and more money he will do what is best for him.

We don't want him, he isn't chasing more money he is hoping for a job.

We don’t want him at his QO price point. As a minimum he would be a nice defensive option/bench depth.

He is done here, got to read the room. We wouldn't take him for the minimum. Moore has his role at minimum.

[Krapinsky]

I bet he ends up with Denver.

[KGdaBom]

Lol Klomp, just lol. Isn't Utah a better fit for you? You are acting like a douchebag lately.

I see Klomp's point. Hoopshype is just repeating a report from Doogie. He does get a little carried away though.

[winforlose]

We don't want him, he isn't chasing more money he is hoping for a job.

We don’t want him at his QO price point. As a minimum he would be a nice defensive option/bench depth.

He is done here, got to read the room. We wouldn't take him for the minimum. Moore has his role at minimum.

Eventually. But Moore needs time in the G before he will be ready to play with the big boys. I personally think sign and trade is his best bet. There will be some teams who want an 11th man defensive specialist. Also may be some coach who thinks they can fix his shot. Time will tell.

[Baseline81]

Eventually. But Moore needs time in the G before he will be ready to play with the big boys. I personally think sign and trade is his best bet. There will be some teams who want an 11th man defensive specialist. Also may be some coach who thinks they can fix his shot. Time will tell.

You realize Finch said Moore is "plug-and-play."

That doesn't sound like someone the team will put into the Iowa Wolves.