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[blind prophet]

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I'm not sure I like this, will make 11.3 million next season....why the rush?

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Why wouldn't McNair wait until then to decide?

[Texas Chuck]

because you are trying to build good will in the player and if he's a bad contract again that last year so be it. Not that much is lost. But why antagonize a guy where the relationship isn't great to begin with.

[rpa]

Kings were willing to pay 12 million to get DDV. I don't see why not take Snell and lotto protected first. Could showcase Snell for more picks or have a useful vet..

Because the 1st was almost certainly going to turn into 2 2nd rounders. $12m for 2 2nd rounders isn't a very good use of resources.

The 7th and 8th seed in the east won 33 and 35 games this year. I don't think it's thats certain that the Hawks miss playoffs the next 3 or 4 seasons.

I believe the pick in question is from OKC--which is lottery protected in 2022 and then turns into 2 2nd rounders.

[blind prophet]

because you are trying to build good will in the player and if he's a bad contract again that last year so be it. Not that much is lost. But why antagonize a guy where the relationship isn't great to begin with.

Ok, makes sense Chuck, but the guy has been injury prone, makes me nervous.

[Bologna Smasher]

Accepting the option early is a way for the front office to show they still have faith in him. It's basically doing the complete opposite of what Vlade did to Giles.

[Texas Chuck]

Accepting the option early is a way for the front office to show they still have faith in him. It's basically doing the complete opposite of what Vlade did to Giles.

Giles was a much later pick and in Divac' defense he hadn't shown enough combined with his injury to warrant picking up his option. And I know Kings fans liked some of what he did this past season, but he still took a min deal so interest around the league was clearly tepid at best. Divac got that one right.

[Prospect Dong]

Accepting the option early is a way for the front office to show they still have faith in him. It's basically doing the complete opposite of what Vlade did to Giles.

Giles was a much later pick and in Divac' defense he hadn't shown enough combined with his injury to warrant picking up his option. And I know Kings fans liked some of what he did this past season, but he still took a min deal so interest around the league was clearly tepid at best. Divac got that one right.

But I do think you make this move for Bagley. You're not going to learn much more over the next few weeks, which is when the deadline is, right? And he's probably still got enough pre-draft sheen on him that he gets something like this as a FA even with another lost year.

[Texas Chuck]

Accepting the option early is a way for the front office to show they still have faith in him. It's basically doing the complete opposite of what Vlade did to Giles.

Giles was a much later pick and in Divac' defense he hadn't shown enough combined with his injury to warrant picking up his option. And I know Kings fans liked some of what he did this past season, but he still took a min deal so interest around the league was clearly tepid at best. Divac got that one right.

But I do think you make this move for Bagley. You're not going to learn much more over the next few weeks, which is when the deadline is, right? And he's probably still got enough pre-draft sheen on him that he gets something like this as a FA even with another lost year.

Exactly. The potential upside still outweighs the minor downside of having an overpaid guy on your roster for 2 more seasons. I admit to being skeptical that Bagley ever turns into more than a quality scoring bench big, but even if the chances are low of him becoming a plus starter, they aren't zero and the Kings need to give him every opportunity to be the guy they loved in the draft.

[MoneyTalks41890]

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[tobysunsfan]

So Marcus Morris is getting paid a four-year, $64 million deal , while Markieff Morris is getting paid at the minimum for 1-year. I just read that they share a bank account, and presumably share some if not all of there money. Couldn't this be cap circumvention?

Let's just say Player A wants to play with Player B, and on the open market is worth 10 million. If they shared bank accounts, Player A could sign for the minimum and recoup that 10 million through Player B's salary. Surely Markieff's decision to sign for the minimum could be influenced by the fact he is receiving a bunch of money through the Clippers paying Marcus.

[Scoot McGroot]

So Marcus Morris is getting paid a four-year, $64 million deal , while Markieff Morris is getting paid at the minimum for 1-year. I just read that they share a bank account, and presumably share some if not all of there money. Couldn't this be cap circumvention?

Let's just say Player A wants to play with Player B, and on the open market is worth 10 million. If they shared bank accounts, Player A could sign for the minimum and recoup that 10 million through Player B's salary. Surely Markieff's decision to sign for the minimum could be influenced by the fact he is receiving a bunch of money through the Clippers paying Marcus.

Are you saying that the Clippers and Lakers are conspiring together to help subsidize the signing of the brothers to rival teams?

[collidingNeurons]

So Marcus Morris is getting paid a four-year, $64 million deal , while Markieff Morris is getting paid at the minimum for 1-year. I just read that they share a bank account, and presumably share some if not all of there money. Couldn't this be cap circumvention?

Let's just say Player A wants to play with Player B, and on the open market is worth 10 million. If they shared bank accounts, Player A could sign for the minimum and recoup that 10 million through Player B's salary. Surely Markieff's decision to sign for the minimum could be influenced by the fact he is receiving a bunch of money through the Clippers paying Marcus.

Are you saying that the Clippers and Lakers are conspiring together to help subsidize the signing of the brothers to rival teams?

what's really funny about this is the Suns probably did circumvent the rules when they signed them both, paying one more than the other knowing it was a joint venture and making Marcus' contract far cheaper and easily traded

[tobysunsfan]

So Marcus Morris is getting paid a four-year, $64 million deal , while Markieff Morris is getting paid at the minimum for 1-year. I just read that they share a bank account, and presumably share some if not all of there money. Couldn't this be cap circumvention?

Let's just say Player A wants to play with Player B, and on the open market is worth 10 million. If they shared bank accounts, Player A could sign for the minimum and recoup that 10 million through Player B's salary. Surely Markieff's decision to sign for the minimum could be influenced by the fact he is receiving a bunch of money through the Clippers paying Marcus.

Are you saying that the Clippers and Lakers are conspiring together to help subsidize the signing of the brothers to rival teams?

I'm not saying that but surely if it's allowed then situations like that can occur.

It's like LeBron told AD to take less money in free agency, and LeBron would pay the difference into a joint bank account, therefore letting the Lakers sign someone else in free agency.

[HartfordWhalers]

So Marcus Morris is getting paid a four-year, $64 million deal , while Markieff Morris is getting paid at the minimum for 1-year. I just read that they share a bank account, and presumably share some if not all of there money. Couldn't this be cap circumvention?

Let's just say Player A wants to play with Player B, and on the open market is worth 10 million. If they shared bank accounts, Player A could sign for the minimum and recoup that 10 million through Player B's salary. Surely Markieff's decision to sign for the minimum could be influenced by the fact he is receiving a bunch of money through the Clippers paying Marcus.

Are you saying that the Clippers and Lakers are conspiring together to help subsidize the signing of the brothers to rival teams?

what's really funny about this is the Suns probably did circumvent the rules when they signed them both, paying one more than the other knowing it was a joint venture and making Marcus' contract far cheaper and easily traded

When the Suns did it, I believe the reporting was that they made an offer for both, and let the brothers pick how to split it up.

The relationship soured with them, when they (appeared to) take advantage of how the brothers split the money.

[BoogieTime]

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I'm not sure I like this, will make 11.3 million next season....why the rush?

If this is accurate...

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Why wouldn't McNair wait until then to decide?

This is offbeat from how the majority of Kings fans feel

Bagley has the talent to have been selected two, and has showcased that talent to some degree when healthy. He to this day has no major injury issues

What would a rebuilding team like the Kings spend their money on otherwise?

[Scoot McGroot]

So Marcus Morris is getting paid a four-year, $64 million deal , while Markieff Morris is getting paid at the minimum for 1-year. I just read that they share a bank account, and presumably share some if not all of there money. Couldn't this be cap circumvention?

Let's just say Player A wants to play with Player B, and on the open market is worth 10 million. If they shared bank accounts, Player A could sign for the minimum and recoup that 10 million through Player B's salary. Surely Markieff's decision to sign for the minimum could be influenced by the fact he is receiving a bunch of money through the Clippers paying Marcus.

Are you saying that the Clippers and Lakers are conspiring together to help subsidize the signing of the brothers to rival teams?

I'm not saying that but surely if it's allowed then situations like that can occur.

It's like LeBron told AD to take less money in free agency, and LeBron would pay the difference into a joint bank account, therefore letting the Lakers sign someone else in free agency.

So, are the Clippers helping the Lakers here, or are the Lakers helping the Clippers? Or how do both the Lakers and the Clippers benefit from this?

What I'm trying to point out is that clearly those two teams haven't circumvented the cap because there's no reason they would help each other. But otherwise, each player would sign a contract that defines the payment for their play. If those players decide separately to give money to the other, that's their own deal. Players are not the team executives. They do however, have to handle taxes, gift taxes, and all sorts of other legalities on their own.

[tobysunsfan]

So, are the Clippers helping the Lakers here, or are the Lakers helping the Clippers? Or how do both the Lakers and the Clippers benefit from this?

What I'm trying to point out is that clearly those two teams haven't circumvented the cap because there's no reason they would help each other. But otherwise, each player would sign a contract that defines the payment for their play. If those players decide separately to give money to the other, that's their own deal. Players are not the team executives. They do however, have to handle taxes, gift taxes, and all sorts of other legalities on their own.

I'm not saying that the Lakers or Clippers are in collusion in any way. What I am saying is that it's possible if this type of stuff is allowed, for teams or players to circumvent the cap.

Let's say for arguments sake Giannis and LeBron shared a bank account. LeBron signed for the max this season, and Giannis is a free agent next season. By your logic, LeBron could say, have my salary next season as a gift, and you come sign for the minimum on the Lakers. By your logic, players are not the team executives, so they can do their own deals, so therefore in this scenario, where obviously the most ridiculous scenario has happened, it should totally be allowed.

[Texas Chuck]

This is one of the strangest conspiracy theories I can ever recall on this board.

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The more I hear from this guy the more he seems to be over Harden's antics.

[darmani]

Are you saying that the Clippers and Lakers are conspiring together to help subsidize the signing of the brothers to rival teams?

what's really funny about this is the Suns probably did circumvent the rules when they signed them both, paying one more than the other knowing it was a joint venture and making Marcus' contract far cheaper and easily traded

When the Suns did it, I believe the reporting was that they made an offer for both, and let the brothers pick how to split it up.

The relationship soured with them, when they (appeared to) take advantage of how the brothers split the money.

How? When?