Around the League: 2020 Offseason

[Kobblehead]

Kobble taking weird shots at Hinkie should not be unexpected to anyone.

It just would have been supersweet of Sam to keep good players and not keep trading them. Based on his displayed actions, there's a high likelihood that Sam would have sold sky high on Joel Embiid after that 31 game debut season, too.

[Skates]

Feels like Paul George could be a huge anchor in the later years of that contract, but I'm not sure how you do anything to avoid it either.

In fairness he could be a huge anchor well before then. The man has some major injury history and seemed to be falling apart confidence wise in the playoffs, but of course that was all the coach's fault for not using him in enough PNR's, despite his being used in more of them in LA than in OKC. The Clips could be great the next couple of years or they could implode, they are like the Nets west.

[Kobblehead]

Anyone find it weird that James Harden seemingly is uninterested in joining the Celtics?

[Stanford]

Anyone find it weird that James Harden seemingly is uninterested in joining the Celtics?

I find it invigorating that Bill Simmons has to concern troll himself now

[Kobblehead]

I wonder if Kyrie badmouthed Ainge/Stevens to his good buddy and that's why Harden hasn't listed them as a destination.

[76thBearCub]

In fairness he could be a huge anchor well before then. The man has some major injury history and seemed to be falling apart confidence wise in the playoffs, but of course that was all the coach's fault for not using him in enough PNR's, despite his being used in more of them in LA than in OKC. The Clips could be great the next couple of years or they could implode, they are like the Nets west.

Clippers are not real likable or marketable, even in freaking LA.

[76thBearCub]

It just would have been supersweet of Sam to keep good players and not keep trading them. Based on his displayed actions, there's a high likelihood that Sam would have sold sky high on Joel Embiid after that 31 game debut season, too.

Which 1's? Im not calling you out I'm legit interested.


And no way he sells high on Embiid, that's just silly.


What do you do with a player like Jerami Grant, when they've tremendously helped your team but are due for a huge paycheck?


Speak to us, Knobhead

[Stanford]

kobble would have traded him for lonnie walker tho

[76thBearCub]

kobble would have traded him for lonnie walker tho

I've heard of a Paul Walker...?

[Kobblehead]

Jrue Holiday and Michael Carter-Williams, in particular. Defensive players that create off the dribble should be untouchables.

I was okay with moving Thad Young even though we all liked him. And I thought bailing on Turner after we pumped up his stats was brilliant because he wasn't displaying a lot as a creater.

In terms of Grant and McDaniels, I feel the same way I felt about Thad. Solid, helpful pieces, but no upside as a creater so I get moving off of them for value.

I don't know why it seems silly to think Hinkie would have traded Embiid. His entire MO was to sell high on assets that he didn't feel 100% confident in. How could he feel 100% sold on Embiid with all the drama with Embiid's attitude during rehabilitation plus the analytical metrics regarding the probability of his career longevity? All that stuff was enough to make Sam nervous enough to draft Okafor the next season so I don't see how it would be far-fetched to think Sam would have wanted to sell high on Embiid like he had with other players.

[76thBearCub]

Jrue Holiday and Michael Carter-Williams, in particular. Defensive players that create off the dribble should be untouchables.

I was okay with moving Thad Young even though we all liked him. And I thought bailing on Turner after we pumped up his stats was brilliant because he wasn't displaying a lot as a creater.

In terms of Grant and McDaniels, I feel the same way I felt about Thad. Solid, helpful pieces, but no upside as a creater so I get moving off of them for value.

I don't know why it seems silly to think Hinkie would have traded Embiid. His entire MO was to sell high on assets that he didn't feel 100% confident in. How could he feel 100% sold on Embiid with all the drama with Embiid's attitude during rehabilitation plus the analytical metrics regarding the probability of his career longevity? All that stuff was enough to make Sam nervous enough to draft Okafor the next season so I don't see how it would be far-fetched to think Sam would have wanted to sell high on Embiid like he had with other players.

I think the Kobblehead realgm account is managed by a debate teacher at some random college at this point.


And passed on from class to class.

[cool93]

At this point I'm pretty sure that Kobble is just trolling. Lol at MCW takes.

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[Kobblehead]

You gotta admit, it's been a minor miracle that Embiid has been as healthy as he's been over the last few years. None of the probability models back in the mid-2010s were predicating that. I just don't think an analytical guy like Sam would ride it out with such a risky asset. Especially given Sam's past behavior and the contingencies he was already setting up (Okafor).

[Kobblehead]

Damn, Kyrie and the Nets both got slapped with a 25k fine for him being lame to the media. I know KD got into bed with Kyrie, but I wouldn't blame him if he gave the blessing to move Kyrie for Harden.

[76thBearCub]

You gotta admit, it's been a minor miracle that Embiid has been as healthy as he's been over the last few years. None of the probability models back in the mid-2010s were predicating that. I just don't think an analytical guy like Sam would ride it out with such a risky asset. Especially given Sam's past behavior and the contingencies he was already setting up (Okafor).

Not really a miracle. He's still hurt pretty often. Lol at models in the 2010s predicting it.

[Negrodamus]

Jrue Holiday and Michael Carter-Williams, in particular. Defensive players that create off the dribble should be untouchables.

I was okay with moving Thad Young even though we all liked him. And I thought bailing on Turner after we pumped up his stats was brilliant because he wasn't displaying a lot as a creater.

In terms of Grant and McDaniels, I feel the same way I felt about Thad. Solid, helpful pieces, but no upside as a creater so I get moving off of them for value.

I don't know why it seems silly to think Hinkie would have traded Embiid. His entire MO was to sell high on assets that he didn't feel 100% confident in. How could he feel 100% sold on Embiid with all the drama with Embiid's attitude during rehabilitation plus the analytical metrics regarding the probability of his career longevity? All that stuff was enough to make Sam nervous enough to draft Okafor the next season so I don't see how it would be far-fetched to think Sam would have wanted to sell high on Embiid like he had with other players.

Didn't they draft Okafor because Embiid refracture his navicular?

[HardenToSixers]

Going to stay out of here until the terrible Hinkie takes go away. Some of these theories... smh

[Stanford]

Hinkie took Okafor because he was forced to by Josh Harris.

That's an undisputed fact. Because I said so.

[76ciology]

Things don’t usually end up well if you don’t praise and worship hinkie. Just be open and comprehend in listening to other people’s opinion.

Hinkie drafted Okafor because LA got Hinkie’s guy, DLO. While KP didn’t want to play for him. This is why Morey believes the priority in the draft is being flexible and not be fixated.

So what happened? he drafts the best player available.

Was the rationale warranted?

Yes, if you don’t take into consideration that the center position is dying that teams are shying away from drafting bigs that high (kupchak). And if you look at the angle that it’s very rare for a defensive liability center in college to turn it around to the pros.

If you don’t consider that pace and space is quickly changing the game.

Then I believe this incident is one of the factors that scare away the owner.

Does this GM really knows basketball? Beating pace and space with Violence at the rim (bully ball), is that a real thing?

Will we encounter the same problem again in the draft where a top pick will refuse to be drafted to us? We can’t verify this but colangelogates have said that Ben’s camp wouldnt want to be drafted by Hinkie.

How can Hinkie sign a max FA with the capspace if agents wouldnt want to deal with him?

Will Hinkie have problems dealing with GMs or team owners if they have negative feelings about him?

Not only that, if you listen to Hinkie interview, there was high degree of uncertainty on Embiid’s health back then.

After tanking hard for multiple years, all we had were paper assets and not much materialized talent.

[76ciology]

Giannis hasnt signed with the Bucks.

Use that as leverage.

Engage in trade talks with the Bucks, involving Ben Simmons and Giannis.

I love one idea I saw in the trade board. It’s completely unrealistic. But trading Ben and picks for Giannis then Biid for Harden would be a really great move.