Giannis is gone: Mavs Next Target

[zimpy27]

Why would they SnT Gobert for Porzingis when they could just sign him

They may not trade Porzingis, they may trade other pieces like Powell and Kleber and picks. The reason they trade is it allows them to add/keep THJ, J-Rich, Fournier, Boban, WCS, Hinton, Terry. They'd have to clear these guys to add Gobert in FA.

As it stands right now Dallas only has to move salary to acquire Gobert if they want to keep Richardson's cap hold. Which they should. But they can do that without moving KP or Maxi. And they definitely don't trade KP to keep THJ despite the position problems with Gobert.

I think Dallas would simply find a new home for Powell(or stretch waive him if the asset cost to move him was too high), let THJ walk and sign Gobert/re-sign Richardson and keep everyone else. Then use the room exception on a shooter.

Do you even want to keep KP? He's injury likelihood is a huge liability. I know he's a good player but I can't see him playing a full season.

[Buzzard]

Why would they SnT Gobert for Porzingis when they could just sign him

They may not trade Porzingis, they may trade other pieces like Powell and Kleber and picks. The reason they trade is it allows them to add/keep THJ, J-Rich, Fournier, Boban, WCS, Hinton, Terry. They'd have to clear these guys to add Gobert in FA.

As it stands right now Dallas only has to move salary to acquire Gobert if they want to keep Richardson's cap hold. Which they should. But they can do that without moving KP or Maxi. And they definitely don't trade KP to keep THJ despite the position problems with Gobert.

I think Dallas would simply find a new home for Powell(or stretch waive him if the asset cost to move him was too high), let THJ walk and sign Gobert/re-sign Richardson and keep everyone else. Then use the room exception on a shooter.

There is plenty of options out there if the Mavericks try to add two starters vs one max player.

[Texas Chuck]

Do you even want to keep KP? He's injury likelihood is a huge liability. I know he's a good player but I can't see him playing a full season.

Great question.

I'd say I don't want to just give him away. And acknowledge that might be a decision I would come to regret if injuries derail him as they have so far because at some point Dallas wouldn't be able to.

But when he plays, he offers enough that I'd look to other paths to clear the cap space to keep Richardson's cap hold.

But I am definitely open to trading KP in a situation where that would actually be required. Absolutely not untouchable by any means. Just not ready to dump him at this point.

[Texas Chuck]

They may not trade Porzingis, they may trade other pieces like Powell and Kleber and picks. The reason they trade is it allows them to add/keep THJ, J-Rich, Fournier, Boban, WCS, Hinton, Terry. They'd have to clear these guys to add Gobert in FA.

As it stands right now Dallas only has to move salary to acquire Gobert if they want to keep Richardson's cap hold. Which they should. But they can do that without moving KP or Maxi. And they definitely don't trade KP to keep THJ despite the position problems with Gobert.

I think Dallas would simply find a new home for Powell(or stretch waive him if the asset cost to move him was too high), let THJ walk and sign Gobert/re-sign Richardson and keep everyone else. Then use the room exception on a shooter.

There is plenty of options out there if the Mavericks try to add two starters vs one max player.

Of course there are. And if KP plays 85% of the games including the playoffs and is a borderline all-NBA player then I think that's a very reasonable route. But right now I'm still thinking Dallas needs a better 2nd best player more than they need upgrading their 3rd and 5th starters. KP can change all that, but right now I want another star impact player and that's only Gobert of the free agents(I'm just ruling out Kahwi to Dallas).

[Buzzard]

As it stands right now Dallas only has to move salary to acquire Gobert if they want to keep Richardson's cap hold. Which they should. But they can do that without moving KP or Maxi. And they definitely don't trade KP to keep THJ despite the position problems with Gobert.

I think Dallas would simply find a new home for Powell(or stretch waive him if the asset cost to move him was too high), let THJ walk and sign Gobert/re-sign Richardson and keep everyone else. Then use the room exception on a shooter.

There is plenty of options out there if the Mavericks try to add two starters vs one max player.

Of course there are. And if KP plays 85% of the games including the playoffs and is a borderline all-NBA player then I think that's a very reasonable route. But right now I'm still thinking Dallas needs a better 2nd best player more than they need upgrading their 3rd and 5th starters. KP can change all that, but right now I want another star impact player and that's only Gobert of the free agents(I'm just ruling out Kahwi to Dallas).

I like Lauri if gets back on the right track. I like Fournier as well. Dinwiddie could be a nice add to their offense also.

[zimpy27]

Do you even want to keep KP? He's injury likelihood is a huge liability. I know he's a good player but I can't see him playing a full season.

Great question.

I'd say I don't want to just give him away. And acknowledge that might be a decision I would come to regret if injuries derail him as they have so far because at some point Dallas wouldn't be able to.

But when he plays, he offers enough that I'd look to other paths to clear the cap space to keep Richardson's cap hold.

But I am definitely open to trading KP in a situation where that would actually be required. Absolutely not untouchable by any means. Just not ready to dump him at this point.

In the situation with Mavs getting Gobert, I am not a fan of paying 65-70m per season on two players that are best at the C position. That's why I think an SnT works. Obviously KP is valuable so it would require some extra pieces.

Maybe Gobert+O'Neale+FRPs for KP+Powell.

PG: Doncic | Brunson | Burke
SG: J-Rich | THJ | Terry
SF: Fournier | O'Neale | Green | Iwundu
PF: DFS | Kleber
C : Gobert | WCS | Boban

The thing that intrigues me about this lineup is that it has so many wings.

[Apz]

@zimpy27
That I would consider. Wouldnt go for fournier tho, would try to grab a PF since DFS is imo better at SF due his size.

Still say u cant pay 2 centers, and pretty sure Gobert want more money then any center should ever be payed

[zimpy27]

@zimpy27
That I would consider. Wouldnt go for fournier tho, would try to grab a PF since DFS is imo better at SF due his size.

Still say u cant pay 2 centers, and pretty sure Gobert want more money then any center should ever be payed

Well I think Fournier takes less to play with Gobert, so it's up to Dallas wanting to take advantage of that. I like DFS at PF with a C like Gobert but understand he is undersized. O'Neale can also play PF at times though undersized also.

[Jkam31]

I believe Gobert should be their target, possibly via SnT of Porzingis. I also think Fournier gets an MLE to be there next season too.

Luka, J-Rich, Fournier, DFS, Gobert
Brunson, Burke, THJ, Green, Kleber, Powell

Why would they SnT Gobert for Porzingis when they could just sign him

Why even sign Gilbert when Kleber is the better fit defensively and offensively

[Jkam31]

Dallas has Porzingis/Kleber/Powell if they entertain Gobert Luka should hold out

[Texas Chuck]

I believe Gobert should be their target, possibly via SnT of Porzingis. I also think Fournier gets an MLE to be there next season too.

Luka, J-Rich, Fournier, DFS, Gobert
Brunson, Burke, THJ, Green, Kleber, Powell

Why would they SnT Gobert for Porzingis when they could just sign him

Why even sign Gilbert when Kleber is the better fit defensively and offensively

Please do not troll the board.

[jpengland]

If KP has a semi healthy year then I can see a situation where Gobert is signed and KP gets moved for the best possible perimeter fit

I'd prefer KP but I can see a route whereby we end up with Gobert to solve defensive frailties and KP brings back that legit second offensive option.

[MasterIchiro]

What about Oladipo via free agency? Anyone mention him?

[Apz]

What is the max gobert can get as FA? I have no intrest if he ghink he will gdt close to max, and absolutely 0 intrest in a snt if he gets his 240m+ supermax. As I said in some thread, no cenger ghat cant stretch the floor id worth more then 16m a year

[Texas Chuck]

If KP has a semi healthy year then I can see a situation where Gobert is signed and KP gets moved for the best possible perimeter fit

I'd prefer KP but I can see a route whereby we end up with Gobert to solve defensive frailties and KP brings back that legit second offensive option.

Yeah that's a logical scenario. Where you and I differ is that I would prefer that scenario--in other words given a choice between KP and whatever else Dallas could do with cap space at this point or Gobert plus whatever return Dallas could get for KP, give me the latter.

[zimpy27]

What is the max gobert can get as FA? I have no intrest if he ghink he will gdt close to max, and absolutely 0 intrest in a snt if he gets his 240m+ supermax. As I said in some thread, no cenger ghat cant stretch the floor id worth more then 16m a year

Don't think you can SnT a supermax. He can get a 4 year max contract for SnT. That seems about right

[NYG]

If KP has a semi healthy year then I can see a situation where Gobert is signed and KP gets moved for the best possible perimeter fit

I'd prefer KP but I can see a route whereby we end up with Gobert to solve defensive frailties and KP brings back that legit second offensive option.

Yeah that's a logical scenario. Where you and I differ is that I would prefer that scenario--in other words given a choice between KP and whatever else Dallas could do with cap space at this point or Gobert plus whatever return Dallas could get for KP, give me the latter.

KP’s value is so odd, who is that perimeter player? What caliber of player could he get?

[zimpy27]

If KP has a semi healthy year then I can see a situation where Gobert is signed and KP gets moved for the best possible perimeter fit

I'd prefer KP but I can see a route whereby we end up with Gobert to solve defensive frailties and KP brings back that legit second offensive option.

Yeah that's a logical scenario. Where you and I differ is that I would prefer that scenario--in other words given a choice between KP and whatever else Dallas could do with cap space at this point or Gobert plus whatever return Dallas could get for KP, give me the latter.

KP’s value is so odd, who is that perimeter player? What caliber of player could he get?

Maybe Jaylen Brown is possible. Maybe Middleton. It's hard to know exactly.

[drosestruts]

I know an early post mentioned Otto Porter Jr then dismissed him due to injuries the past two years, but at 27 years old I think he'd fit in so well with Luka, Richardson and KP.

A Luka/Richardson/Porter/Kleber/Porzingis lineup could be awesome.

[giannis and 1]

As some more regular posters know.. I always wanted Dipo as I didn’t think the others were realistic. So now that Giannis is gone and Jrue is unlikely leaving .. I’m still sticking with Dipo.

I'm still out on this. I guess of who is left as a FA I'm now a Gobert man even though that's not ideal with KP. But he's clearly the best player available.

But I think a deadline trade is something to really look for. And no the little Mavs don't want Zach LaVine and yes obviously they have the assets to get him. Beal is the dream, but they really don't have assets for him and Washington isn't moving him.

So I think Dallas keeps tabs on both of the Hawks free agents and how that goes. I think they should poke around Draymond. If he looks back to form but the Warriors don't I'd see if he could be pried free.

But I know this, they will be active. And when a team with some good players with big contracts is ready to start over Dallas will be calling to set them free.

Why not Lavine? He has range, ball handling ability, and athleticism. Being on a team with Luka as the floor general would unlock him imo.

The defensive issues would be a problem, though.

Their number one target should be Leonard, but he is really unlikely to become a possibility. But in the off-chance that he does, Mavs should be ready to trade everything outside of Doncic to get him.