Knicks - Cavs PG II

[Tron Carter]

Coming off a helluva game like this, why is the focus on picking Obi apart? Y'all sure know how to fk up a vibe. It's ok to say "I'm not sure what we have in player x yet, but I hope he works out the links."

facts. this is all I’m saying.

[Reign23]

seems i was dead wrong about KNox. Hope this is not just a short hot streak.
rotation for game 1 should be:

Quickley / Payton (throw up... but he will play minutes, be real)
Burks / Bullock
RJ / KNox
Randle / Obi
Mitch / Noel

my boy frank has to wait now. another unlucky pre-season and other guys played well. but that is ok, long season.

[YungKnicks]

A player sometimes needs to fine out what he's really good at in the league and play towards his strength until the rest of his game develops... I hope Knox continues to think he's Rashard Lewis and sticks to shooting them corner 3's all year and don't do too much. Keep your game simple kid, other stuff will come in time.

[duetta]

Can't believe this team has this old guy watching preseason games again.

Cavs weren't playing their full squad, but still a mind-boggling performance from the Knicks.

Let's see, in particular, if Knox can keep this up. He apparently put in a lot of work during the break.

[Besart19]

Iggy, Smith, Payton, Burks two seconds and Dallas unprotected 2023 for Oladipo

Quickley / Frank / Harper
Barrett / Oladipo / Rivers
Bullock / Knox / Pinson
Randle / Toppin / MKG
Mitch / Noel / Spellman

[YungKnicks]

Iggy, Smith, Payton, Burks two seconds and Dallas unprotected 2023 for Oladipo

Quickley / Frank / Harper
Barrett / Oladipo / Rivers
Bullock / Knox / Pinson
Randle / Toppin / MKG
Mitch / Noel / Spellman

No 1st that's over pay for a UFA, we are not a playoff team

[Triple C]

[Chanel Bomber]

You're overdoing it man. Give it some time

He definitely seems to need some time.

Hopefully it works out. He seems to want to play the right way and work hard.
I usually hate the hot takes, but again, a little worried.

He plays with intelligence. But he's definitely pressing. All of this talk about his size and muscles, it's just not relevant yet until you see how he functions when he calms down. He's a SF. People are reacting because they thought he was a bully PF and he isn't. So put on a different set of glasses. And just wait a bit.

He's going to be be a good player. And even if he does end up a role player we secured two solid rotation pieces in this draft. And if IQ is the prize then that's just how the cookie crumbles. Obi clearly feels the pressure of being # 8. IQ probably was poised regardless of draft position, but he has no pressure to prove anything due to being a lottery selection.

Again, this place pretty much is a cess pool of hot takes. Half of this board was calling RJ a bust last year and they were FOS. I was one of the people saying hold your horses just like now. So hold your horses

Saying Obi will be a good player is not less of a hot take than to say he won't be. You're putting as much certainty in your statements as the people who just choose to be more skeptical than you, if not more. If the skeptics need to hold their horses, then so should you, and so should everybody. And we can have nice, boring, flat conversations about how nobody knows the future. Or we can just oppose our views like we've been doing. I mean damn, I've certainly had to defend RJ on here.

You say Obi's a SF. I disagree but fine. But then we have to realize that the qualities he displayed as a PF/C in college and which made him a top prospect in the eyes of many in the first place are insignificant or of secondary importance for his NBA future. I think his functional athleticism is already questionable (at this stage) for the 4 spot, I don't think he has the mobility, the first step or the dribble to play the 3. I think that's setting him up to fail even more.

No one's saying he's a bust, but we should be able to discuss how his skill set fits in the modern NBA and how he fits on that team.

[DaGawd]

Yes!!! Apply pressure on Thibs to do the right thing.. cautiously optimistic he will

[YouthMovement]

Quickley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obi

Come on. It's Knicks RealGM. Have to do this.

had to be done.

[F N 11]

We hunted corner 3s if you noticed

[DowNY]

Iggy, Smith, Payton, Burks two seconds and Dallas unprotected 2023 for Oladipo

Quickley / Frank / Harper
Barrett / Oladipo / Rivers
Bullock / Knox / Pinson
Randle / Toppin / MKG
Mitch / Noel / Spellman

Payton has a no trade clause

[Zenzibar]

Meanwhile:

Nets beat the Celtics page 55.

[DaGawd]

Payton and smith just need to be dropped and cut out right. I’ve seen enough from IQ and even Harper to know they’re better than them

[2010]

He definitely seems to need some time.

Hopefully it works out. He seems to want to play the right way and work hard.
I usually hate the hot takes, but again, a little worried.

He plays with intelligence. But he's definitely pressing. All of this talk about his size and muscles, it's just not relevant yet until you see how he functions when he calms down. He's a SF. People are reacting because they thought he was a bully PF and he isn't. So put on a different set of glasses. And just wait a bit.

He's going to be be a good player. And even if he does end up a role player we secured two solid rotation pieces in this draft. And if IQ is the prize then that's just how the cookie crumbles. Obi clearly feels the pressure of being # 8. IQ probably was poised regardless of draft position, but he has no pressure to prove anything due to being a lottery selection.

Again, this place pretty much is a cess pool of hot takes. Half of this board was calling RJ a bust last year and they were FOS. I was one of the people saying hold your horses just like now. So hold your horses

Saying Obi will be a good player is not less of a hot take than to say he won't be. You're putting as much certainty in your statements as the people who just choose to be more skeptical than you. If the skeptics need to hold their horses, then so should you, and so should everybody. And we can have nice, boring, flat conversations about how nobody knows the future. Or we can just oppose our views like we've been doing. I mean damn, I've certainly had to defend RJ on here.

You say Obi's a SF. I disagree but fine. But then we have to realize that the qualities he displayed as a PF/C in college and which made him a top prospect in the eyes of many in the first place are insignificant or of secondary importance for his NBA future. I think his functional athleticism is already questionable (at this stage) for the 4 spot, I don't think he has the mobility, the first step or the dribble to play the 3. I think that's setting him up to fail even more.

No one's saying he's a bust, but we should be able to discuss how his skill set fits in the modern NBA and how he fits on that team.

You're not necessarily wrong in anything you're saying. But of all things to discuss coming off the heels of this feel good win, is NOW the optimal time to dissect Obi? It's just a buzzkill, man.

Can we have one period where we revel in excitement over our draft picks and their development? Trust me, the ugly losses are right around the corner (have you seen our opening regular season schedule?) ...feel free to go in on the concerns about Obi at that time. But to do this now is just odd. People just want to be the first to say "he ain't it."

That's fine, but even with the uneven results he has shown enough to merit a grace period during a time of adjustments. Have you seen a recent PF we can develop that has shown his court vision, unselfishness, quick decision-making, and perseverance even when things don't immediately go his way?

Also, keep in mind who he was sharing the floor with most of the night. Bums who will be G Leaguers or cut. And even then, with them refusing to feature him in extensive gar-bahge time, as they tried to play for their fringe basketball lives, Obi never got frustrated or attempted to force things.

Man, I'm not worried about Obi. He just needs reps and to get stronger. Everything else will come, including the jumper. Then his whole game will open up.

[Jeff Van Gully]

original dog heart artical don BUMBOclaaaaat *airhorn*

front teeth gold teeth gun pon teeth...

[Jeff Van Gully]

We hunted corner 3s if you noticed

god bless thibs

[EnigmatiC]

You guys know any site where I can watch this? Was out last night couldn’t tune in

[Besart19]

Iggy, Smith, Payton, Burks two seconds and Dallas unprotected 2023 for Oladipo

Quickley / Frank / Harper
Barrett / Oladipo / Rivers
Bullock / Knox / Pinson
Randle / Toppin / MKG
Mitch / Noel / Spellman

Payton has a no trade clause

You make him the 15th man

[2010]

Y'all need to overstand Obi has always been a late bloomer. I wouldn't bet against him. The track record for jumping out the window and pegging him as one who will be unsuccessful isn't exactly smart money.

He had no scholarship offers after 4 years of high school. He had a late growth spurt. He had no one predicting he'd be National Player of the Year or a future lottery pick one day when he arrived at Dayton. I don't think sticking a fork in him early puts you on the smart board.